The philosophy of the Jets organization gives us a hint of why they cut certain players

[Apache 51]

20 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Darnold is our back up long snapper.  He learned the skill from Spencer Long.

He played LB too.

[Jet Nut]

8 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Brett Ratliff oin specials.

Clowney, Westeman, Woodhead, too many to remember.  Theres always some nominal player that we fall in love with and when it doesnt turn into "our Romo" we dont let go

[Alka]

2 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I saw Herm Edwards speak at The Charlotte Touchdown club.  He spoke to this. He said he HATED the attitude of specialty players. With his charisma and animation he imitated a defensive player and said.. “ I’m a cover corner”.  Herm said... that means CANT TACKLE.  

 

I love that Herm said that he hated the attitude of specialty players.  In my mind, they are a cancer to an organization.  

I am the manager of my office, and have been for the last 20 years.  I have no problem doing anything in my office, and I make sure I get to work on time and leave when everyone else leaves.  It is important for me to set an example, and to let everyone else know I am no better than they are.

Players who limit themselves and brand themselves as specialists, invoke a mental imprint on the other players.  Maybe another player who is a good tackler, but hurt his shoulder will back away from making a tackle when the "cover corner" who won't come up and make the hit isn't doing it when they are healthy, so why should I do it when my shoulder is hurting. 

This mindset infiltrates the rest of the team and organization, and it is a losing mindset.

It is about time we learn from the New England Patriots and emulate them when it comes to being a football player and playing multiple positions and not complaining, but proactively looking for those players who "buys in" to the team first concept.

Sometimes it must hurt to cut a player who is very good at returning punts, but not much good at anything else, and keep a player who is a good receiver and not quite as good as the guy you just cut who is a little better at fielding punts. But it sends a strong message to the rest of the team, and  that is infectious as much as losing is infectious.

[southparkcpa]

1 hour ago, Alka said:

I love that Herm said that he hated the attitude of specialty players.  In my mind, they are a cancer to an organization.  

I am the manager of my office, and have been for the last 20 years.  I have no problem doing anything in my office, and I make sure I get to work on time and leave when everyone else leaves.  It is important for me to set an example, and to let everyone else know I am no better than they are.

Players who limit themselves and brand themselves as specialists, invoke a mental imprint on the other players.  Maybe another player who is a good tackler, but hurt his shoulder will back away from making a tackle when the "cover corner" who won't come up and make the hit isn't doing it when they are healthy, so why should I do it when my shoulder is hurting. 

This mindset infiltrates the rest of the team and organization, and it is a losing mindset.

It is about time we learn from the New England Patriots and emulate them when it comes to being a football player and playing multiple positions and not complaining, but proactively looking for those players who "buys in" to the team first concept.

Sometimes it must hurt to cut a player who is very good at returning punts, but not much good at anything else, and keep a player who is a good receiver and not quite as good as the guy you just cut who is a little better at fielding punts. But it sends a strong message to the rest of the team, and  that is infectious as much as losing is infectious.

I remember when we traded Vilma, I didn’t understand it. Yes, we got great value BUT the response on the board was that he wasn’t a 3/4 linebacker etc.   I just SMH...  I assumed I was wrong but I have to believe that a good LB can play in a 3/4 or. 4/4....    an edge rusher?  Shouldn’t that talent also be valuable in a run defense?   I like what I am seeing. BUT I don’t see us winning more than 8 games.  Not this year, but I feel pretty positive longer term.  

[Alka]

2 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I remember when we traded Vilma, I didn’t understand it. Yes, we got great value BUT the response on the board was that he wasn’t a 3/4 linebacker etc.   I just SMH...  I assumed I was wrong but I have to believe that a good LB can play in a 3/4 or. 4/4....    an edge rusher?  Shouldn’t that talent also be valuable in a run defense?   I like what I am seeing. BUT I don’t see us winning more than 8 games.  Not this year, but I feel pretty positive longer term.  

Vilma was a very active and quality linebacker, but certainly not a prototypical linebacker, which is why I believe the Jets ultimately traded him.  I had nothing against Vilma, just not one of my favorite players.  The same can be said of John Abraham; he was undersized, but very active and certainly capable of rushing the passer.  Again, not one of my favorite Jet players, but Parcels wasn't a fan of his, and again, I believe it was because he was not your prototypical player at the time.  

Our Jets probably will win 7 or 8 games this year.  The game I'm circling on my calendar is game #2 against the Browns.  I think that game determines if this Jets team is a potential playoff team or not.  I believe we will beat the Bills game 1, but game 2 will tell us if we are a 8 win team or better.  My money says we lose to the Browns, and I hope that I am dead wrong.  I really want to be wrong, which will make me wrong about this team.  We will see.

[NYJ1]

8 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I remember when we traded Vilma, I didn’t understand it. Yes, we got great value BUT the response on the board was that he wasn’t a 3/4 linebacker etc.   I just SMH...  I assumed I was wrong but I have to believe that a good LB can play in a 3/4 or. 4/4....    an edge rusher?  Shouldn’t that talent also be valuable in a run defense?   I like what I am seeing. BUT I don’t see us winning more than 8 games.  Not this year, but I feel pretty positive longer term.  

He really wasn't cut out to play in a 3-4. He was always very slow to react. And I liked Vilma as much as anyone.

[Green DNA]

14 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I saw Herm Edwards speak at The Charlotte Touchdown club.  He spoke to this. He said he HATED the attitude of specialty players. With his charisma and animation he imitated a defensive player and said.. “ I’m a cover corner”.  Herm said... that means CANT TACKLE.  

 

To be fair, Herm was a specialty coach.  He was a great cheerleader, but not so good with the X's and O's. 

[southparkcpa]

1 hour ago, Green DNA said:

To be fair, Herm was a SHlTTY coach.  He was a great cheerleader, but not so good with the X's and O's. 

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