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I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything.

Bleacher Report

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Bills #21
  • Jets #25
  • Dolphins #31

CBS Sports

AFCE:

  • Patriots #2
  • Bills #20
  • Jets #22
  • Dolphins #32

ESPN

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #24
  • Bills #25
  • Dolphins #32

Pro Football Focus

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Dolphins #24
  • Bills #29
  • Jets #31

NFL.com

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #22
  • Bills #23
  • Dolphins #32
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2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

PFF has the Dolphins 24th?  They either did those prior to all the trades or have lost all credibility.  The Dolphins have the worst roster in the NFL and quite possibly the worst in the past 5 years or so.

BY KEVIN COLE & TIMO RISKE
SEP 4, 2019

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9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything.

Bleacher Report

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Bills #21
  • Jets #25
  • Dolphins #31

CBS Sports

AFCE:

  • Patriots #2
  • Bills #20
  • Jets #22
  • Dolphins #32

ESPN

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #24
  • Bills #25
  • Dolphins #32

Pro Football Focus

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Dolphins #24
  • Bills #29
  • Jets #31

NFL.com

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #22
  • Bills #23
  • Dolphins #32

Pro football Focus must also share office space with High Times

Dolphins better than Jets and Bills?   Jets bottom of NFL?   

I wonder if the guy that wrote that wants to take a few wagers....

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Let’s be fair it’s all about Sam, if he’s the real deal all bets are off.

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Did somebody who works for the Jets piss in Cris Collingsworth's cereal?  PFF always low rates the sh__ t out of us.  Even our player ratings are usually lower than I would expect.  I can understand Cimini's need to throw shade from time to time.  But PFF never seems to change their tune.

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28 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

Did somebody who works for the Jets piss in Cris Collingsworth's cereal?  PFF always low rates the sh__ t out of us.  Even our player ratings are usually lower than I would expect.  I can understand Cimini's need to throw shade from time to time.  But PFF never seems to change their tune.

PFF uses they’re most recent ratings. Fitzpatrick is carrying over a really high rating from last year while Sam Darnold’s is actually really low. 

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39 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said:

Let’s be fair it’s all about Sam, if he’s the real deal all bets are off.

I'm assuming they ALL realized Sam Darnold is on the Jets roster. 

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1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything.

Bleacher Report

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Bills #21
  • Jets #25
  • Dolphins #31

CBS Sports

AFCE:

  • Patriots #2
  • Bills #20
  • Jets #22
  • Dolphins #32

ESPN

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #24
  • Bills #25
  • Dolphins #32

Pro Football Focus

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Dolphins #24
  • Bills #29
  • Jets #31

NFL.com

AFCE:

  • Patriots #1
  • Jets #22
  • Bills #23
  • Dolphins #32

PFF is on drugs. The dolphins are tanking. Hard. How does an outfit supposedly covering Professional Football miss that? LOL

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58 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

PFF uses they’re most recent ratings. Fitzpatrick is carrying over a really high rating from last year while Sam Darnold’s is actually really low. 

But this just highlights the inherent inadequacy of the sabermetrics/analytics/PFF approach to assessing football teams. 

The chances that Fitzpatrick has a better season than Sam Darnold are extremely small. A little bit of context mixed with some football wisdom goes a long, long way. 

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The 22-25 range seems right for now. Having the Jets at #31 like PFF does seems like crazy talk.  They are basically saying that with all the changes, additions of some Pro bowl talent (Osemele, Bell, C.J. Mosely), improvement of the offensive line, new coaching and the second year development of Sam Darnold, the Jets will be one spot worse than last year when they drafted number 3.

The 31st team in the NFL typically wins 2 or 3 games during the season. I cannot see that happening here with the Jets. Even as a fan, my brain tells me they find at least five wins at the worst. 

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The Pats aren’t winning anything but the AFCE this year and PFF likes to get a reaction from Jet fans. Outside of that the Jet numbers are pretty accurate. 20/25

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Pff has been hedging all their commentary about the Jets and Darnold. They have Darnold at the bottom of the QB rankings but then they’ll say, but if he plays the way he played at the end of last season. They have the Jets at the bottom of their ranking but then they said but...if Darnold. By putting us at the bottom they are saying he won’t be good. They should just say that as opposed to always hedging their opinion.

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Seems a fair ranking based on our putrid secondary, pass rush, Oline depth and whether Sam takes a big leap year two.  I'd say the only area we are stacked is Dline.

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PFF is a joke. Always has been and always will be.

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1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

A lot depends on Darnold making a leap. If he doesnt, the Jets will be terrible. A lot of blind faith right now. We just dont know. He played well down the stretch last season (besides week 17), but there's generally no carryover guarantees. We'll see if Darnold's the guy by October considering the schedule.

I agree with you. I just think they’re playing both sides. Their analytics say that he is a bottom QB. It’s like they’re hedging what their analytics is suggesting with comments like but Darnold can make the leap which will cause us to be wrong. Almost as though they don’t trust it. 

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So how do these ranking work--if the Bills are rated higher than us, do they start with like a 7 point lead or a 3 point lead Sunday?

Or maybe we only get 10 players for a quarter?

They must have some impact on the game.  

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2 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

The 22-25 range seems right for now. Having the Jets at #31 like PFF does seems like crazy talk.  They are basically saying that with all the changes, additions of some Pro bowl talent (Osemele, Bell, C.J. Mosely), improvement of the offensive line, new coaching and the second year development of Sam Darnold, the Jets will be one spot worse than last year when they drafted number 3.

The 31st team in the NFL typically wins 2 or 3 games during the season. I cannot see that happening here with the Jets. Even as a fan, my brain tells me they find at least five wins at the worst. 

No team with Lev Bell, maybe the best RB in football, and a soon to be Top 5 QB should be ranked at 31.

Very difficult schedule to start but this will be a very exciting season of Jet football.

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52 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said:

PFF is trash

Nothing baits clicks like selling the Jets as clowns.  Been going on for years  

SAR I

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1 hour ago, Peace Frog said:

So how do these ranking work--if the Bills are rated higher than us, do they start with like a 7 point lead or a 3 point lead Sunday?

Or maybe we only get 10 players for a quarter?

They must have some impact on the game.  

No.

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12 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

No.

It’s gotta mean something, right?

These are POWER rankings. 

Bills must get to use footballs deflated below  12.5 psi. 

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