Barry McCockinner 7,115 #1 Posted September 4, 2019 I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything. Bleacher Report AFCE: Patriots #1 Bills #21 Jets #25 Dolphins #31 CBS Sports AFCE: Patriots #2 Bills #20 Jets #22 Dolphins #32 ESPN AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #24 Bills #25 Dolphins #32 Pro Football Focus AFCE: Patriots #1 Dolphins #24 Bills #29 Jets #31 NFL.com AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #22 Bills #23 Dolphins #32 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Schroy 3,044 #2 Posted September 4, 2019 What did they do, pick these numbers out of a hat? Total crap. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Brown 7,355 #3 Posted September 4, 2019 Thank you. Rankings are about right to me. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawkeyeJet 5,722 #4 Posted September 4, 2019 PFF has the Dolphins 24th? They either did those prior to all the trades or have lost all credibility. The Dolphins have the worst roster in the NFL and quite possibly the worst in the past 5 years or so. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry McCockinner 7,115 #5 Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: PFF has the Dolphins 24th? They either did those prior to all the trades or have lost all credibility. The Dolphins have the worst roster in the NFL and quite possibly the worst in the past 5 years or so. BY KEVIN COLE & TIMO RISKE SEP 4, 2019 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Frog 3,650 #6 Posted September 4, 2019 Goddammit this is going to effect our playoff seeding. 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowles Movement 497 #7 Posted September 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything. Bleacher Report AFCE: Patriots #1 Bills #21 Jets #25 Dolphins #31 CBS Sports AFCE: Patriots #2 Bills #20 Jets #22 Dolphins #32 ESPN AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #24 Bills #25 Dolphins #32 Pro Football Focus AFCE: Patriots #1 Dolphins #24 Bills #29 Jets #31 NFL.com AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #22 Bills #23 Dolphins #32 Pro football Focus must also share office space with High Times Dolphins better than Jets and Bills? Jets bottom of NFL? I wonder if the guy that wrote that wants to take a few wagers.... 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butterfield 605 #8 Posted September 4, 2019 Seems about right. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurnleyJet 7,242 #9 Posted September 4, 2019 Let’s be fair it’s all about Sam, if he’s the real deal all bets are off. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pdxgreen 1,808 #10 Posted September 4, 2019 Did somebody who works for the Jets piss in Cris Collingsworth's cereal? PFF always low rates the sh__ t out of us. Even our player ratings are usually lower than I would expect. I can understand Cimini's need to throw shade from time to time. But PFF never seems to change their tune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 21,137 #11 Posted September 4, 2019 Good, good, the more everyone and their dog underestimates us the better. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadienJetsFan 2,007 #12 Posted September 4, 2019 Are these the 2016 rankings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdels62 2,915 #13 Posted September 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: Did somebody who works for the Jets piss in Cris Collingsworth's cereal? PFF always low rates the sh__ t out of us. Even our player ratings are usually lower than I would expect. I can understand Cimini's need to throw shade from time to time. But PFF never seems to change their tune. PFF uses they’re most recent ratings. Fitzpatrick is carrying over a really high rating from last year while Sam Darnold’s is actually really low. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14 in Green 5,188 #14 Posted September 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Let’s be fair it’s all about Sam, if he’s the real deal all bets are off. I'm assuming they ALL realized Sam Darnold is on the Jets roster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlightBoyz 265 #15 Posted September 4, 2019 Pre-Season rankings don't mean anything. Just get Win's on Sunday's. That's all I care about. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jet_Engine1 7,710 #16 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: I know a lot of people will scoff at these pre-week 1 power rankings but the Jets did just pick 3rd overall, so they're going to be toward the back of the pack regardless of the off season. I think they're fun to watch over the course of the season even if they don't mean anything. Bleacher Report AFCE: Patriots #1 Bills #21 Jets #25 Dolphins #31 CBS Sports AFCE: Patriots #2 Bills #20 Jets #22 Dolphins #32 ESPN AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #24 Bills #25 Dolphins #32 Pro Football Focus AFCE: Patriots #1 Dolphins #24 Bills #29 Jets #31 NFL.com AFCE: Patriots #1 Jets #22 Bills #23 Dolphins #32 PFF is on drugs. The dolphins are tanking. Hard. How does an outfit supposedly covering Professional Football miss that? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 3,819 #17 Posted September 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, kdels62 said: PFF uses they’re most recent ratings. Fitzpatrick is carrying over a really high rating from last year while Sam Darnold’s is actually really low. But this just highlights the inherent inadequacy of the sabermetrics/analytics/PFF approach to assessing football teams. The chances that Fitzpatrick has a better season than Sam Darnold are extremely small. A little bit of context mixed with some football wisdom goes a long, long way. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 19,063 #18 Posted September 5, 2019 The 22-25 range seems right for now. Having the Jets at #31 like PFF does seems like crazy talk. They are basically saying that with all the changes, additions of some Pro bowl talent (Osemele, Bell, C.J. Mosely), improvement of the offensive line, new coaching and the second year development of Sam Darnold, the Jets will be one spot worse than last year when they drafted number 3. The 31st team in the NFL typically wins 2 or 3 games during the season. I cannot see that happening here with the Jets. Even as a fan, my brain tells me they find at least five wins at the worst. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Killa7 989 #19 Posted September 5, 2019 PFF?? I mean really?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 92,860 #20 Posted September 5, 2019 The Pats aren’t winning anything but the AFCE this year and PFF likes to get a reaction from Jet fans. Outside of that the Jet numbers are pretty accurate. 20/25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team archer 424 #21 Posted September 5, 2019 Were going to be in the 20s until we give them a reason to push us higher. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenFish 2,817 #22 Posted September 5, 2019 Pff has been hedging all their commentary about the Jets and Darnold. They have Darnold at the bottom of the QB rankings but then they’ll say, but if he plays the way he played at the end of last season. They have the Jets at the bottom of their ranking but then they said but...if Darnold. By putting us at the bottom they are saying he won’t be good. They should just say that as opposed to always hedging their opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 39,786 #23 Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Pff has been hedging all their commentary about the Jets and Darnold. They have Darnold at the bottom of the QB rankings but then they’ll say, but if he plays the way he played at the end of last season. They have the Jets at the bottom of their ranking but then they said but...if Darnold. By putting us at the bottom they are saying he won’t be good. They should just say that as opposed to always hedging their opinion. A lot depends on Darnold making a leap. If he doesnt, the Jets will be terrible. A lot of blind faith right now. We just dont know. He played well down the stretch last season (besides week 17), but there's generally no carryover guarantees. We'll see if Darnold's the guy by October considering the schedule. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbt 632 #24 Posted September 5, 2019 get a load of this one. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26942340/we-simulated-entire-2019-nfl-season-scores-storylines-all-267-games The halfway point Let's check in on every division at the halfway mark of the season: AFC East: Miami (6-2) has stunningly taken the lead in the AFC East by a half-game over the Patriots (6-3) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afjetsfan 147 #25 Posted September 5, 2019 Seems a fair ranking based on our putrid secondary, pass rush, Oline depth and whether Sam takes a big leap year two. I'd say the only area we are stacked is Dline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobR 3,071 #26 Posted September 5, 2019 PFF is a joke. Always has been and always will be. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Be_a_Jet 142 #27 Posted September 5, 2019 PFF is trash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenFish 2,817 #28 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: A lot depends on Darnold making a leap. If he doesnt, the Jets will be terrible. A lot of blind faith right now. We just dont know. He played well down the stretch last season (besides week 17), but there's generally no carryover guarantees. We'll see if Darnold's the guy by October considering the schedule. I agree with you. I just think they’re playing both sides. Their analytics say that he is a bottom QB. It’s like they’re hedging what their analytics is suggesting with comments like but Darnold can make the leap which will cause us to be wrong. Almost as though they don’t trust it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Frog 3,650 #29 Posted September 5, 2019 So how do these ranking work--if the Bills are rated higher than us, do they start with like a 7 point lead or a 3 point lead Sunday? Or maybe we only get 10 players for a quarter? They must have some impact on the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF 1,646 #30 Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The 22-25 range seems right for now. Having the Jets at #31 like PFF does seems like crazy talk. They are basically saying that with all the changes, additions of some Pro bowl talent (Osemele, Bell, C.J. Mosely), improvement of the offensive line, new coaching and the second year development of Sam Darnold, the Jets will be one spot worse than last year when they drafted number 3. The 31st team in the NFL typically wins 2 or 3 games during the season. I cannot see that happening here with the Jets. Even as a fan, my brain tells me they find at least five wins at the worst. No team with Lev Bell, maybe the best RB in football, and a soon to be Top 5 QB should be ranked at 31. Very difficult schedule to start but this will be a very exciting season of Jet football. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAR I 9,415 #31 Posted September 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: PFF is trash Nothing baits clicks like selling the Jets as clowns. Been going on for years SAR I 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevisIsland610 1,074 #32 Posted September 5, 2019 Pre season power rankings are as useless as t!ts on a bull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevinc855 1,912 #33 Posted September 5, 2019 Pro football focus has lost all respect from me...dolphins at 24. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenwichjetfan 3,190 #34 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Peace Frog said: So how do these ranking work--if the Bills are rated higher than us, do they start with like a 7 point lead or a 3 point lead Sunday? Or maybe we only get 10 players for a quarter? They must have some impact on the game. No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Frog 3,650 #35 Posted September 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: No. It’s gotta mean something, right? These are POWER rankings. Bills must get to use footballs deflated below 12.5 psi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
