Popular Post T0mShane Posted September 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, Warfish said: Of course not. We're obviously going to apologist for Gase for at least two years first. It'll be interesting to see who Jets Fans throw under the bus first, Darnold or Gase, if today is any indication of the future of this pairing. 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: That’d pretty much make him the loser he looks like. I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Butterfield said: He was always a fraud. As conservative as they come. Hopefully he is one and done. Way too conservative. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. Can we just use his previous several years of failure instead? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 #Headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, jeremy2020 said: Can we just use his previous several years as a failure instead? He over achieved in Miami. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 OL is from hunger. But Gase needs to understand that if he's going to get anywhere it means scoring points. Keep in a blocking back (which they did do some today and it was effective), keep in a TE, roll out Darnold, have an extra OL , screens, play action, you gotta do something to slow down the pass rush. Now the OL's awfulness is why you cannot throw but 7 yards, and as we saw late in the game Bell, great as he is, is going to get worn down with this much work. And defenses are going to key on him if there isn't any kind of passing game. And for F___'s sake, if it's 3rd and 6, throw it past the stick, let the ball do the work. Why is that so hard? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, shuler82 said: I think if you repeatedly do the same thing all game long, eventually the defense will figure it out. Gase had the highest % of short passes in the league last year in Miami and today looked the part. Yeah, the pressure was there, but you have to take shots and attempt to stretch the field once in awhile or you end up with the underneath coverage and multiple batted balls. Can’t argue. Very basic. But again could it be when your QBs are Osweiller and Matt Moore, is that conservatism by necessity? He didn’t dink and dunk with Peyton Manning at the end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: He was supposed to soar to new heights and be the grand qb whisperer after he was not saddled with tannehill who he was hired 100% to make into a good QB. The offense looked unimaginative and sh*tty, looked worse than guys like bates and morton. It’s still hard for me to understand what people were so excited about with this hire 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. Not declaring him a failure beyond his complete failure today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. Saving all his tricks for 2022 I get it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 what did you expect ? I cant believe some fans bought into the fact that the guy that ran a TERRIBLE offense with the Dolphins was going to be anything but terrible here the bills are a bad team and to blow a lead at home to them is brutal and on the coach the play calling was terrible on offense and way to conservative 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 It sure seemed that gase thought when he was up 16-0, that if he didn’t turn it over he’d win. So he played it safe on offense, they kept pinning buffalo back inside their 20, but gase didn’t understand the defense was about to fold. You’d think he’d know by now that you need to keep your foot on the gas pedal to win. Also was surprised Powell was a scratch, they essentially only used 1 rb, and they really didn’t scheme to get enunwa involved. I get why they used a conservative game plan, but with pass protection such an issue, they really could have used a guy like Powell in the backfield to block. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. really? he ******* sucks bro. Darnold looked ******* lost running his offense and he was doing exactly what Miami fans said he'd be doing. Cmon, he's another ******* turd in the giant toilet bowl of sh*t that is the Jets franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 What did you think was going to happen when we hire a nut job who failed with another team in the division?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The game plan was awful. You have to run a balanced attack of passes and runs to win. This was a big disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Fantasy Island said: The game plan was awful. You have to run a balanced attack of passes and runs to win. This was a big disappointment. They used 1 rb. Where was Powell or Montgomery? The offense was bell and crowder, period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: They used 1 rb. Where was Powell or Montgomery? The offense was bell and crowder, period. Montgomery got touches, he wasn't effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 An out and out disgrace. Guys would of killed Bowles (and rightfully so) for blowing a game like this. This guy gets the blame for this hands down. Enough with excuses, his scheme was horrible, play calling too conservative and his game planning lacked creativity amongst other things. Hopefully, Douglas fires this fraud at the end of the season and we bring in a winning head coach. To borrow a line from Glenn Gary Glenn Ross: A loser is a loser! Good thing we didn’t hire McCarthy because he only had 1 Super Bowl win. Only the Jets would hire a losing head coach over a guy with a proven winning record. Leave it to the johnsons. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Curious to see how the team responds to this and to Gase. If they lose next week, I can see it getting ugly quick. There’s still players on this team that don’t know how to handle adversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: He didn’t dink and dunk with Peyton Manning at the end of his career. ...because he didn't run the offense. He got Peyton Manning his coffee. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Gase coached scared today plain and simple. I'm not going to label him a failure after 1 game, but he NEEDS to be more aggressive. Heck, he was in the preseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Grandy said: Gase coached scared today plain and simple. I'm not going to label him a failure after 1 game, but he NEEDS to be more aggressive. Heck, he was in the preseason. Played it safe up 16-0 with the way allen was turning it over. The offense was clearly not in synch and wasn’t able to protect darnold or get guys open downfield. If allen didn’t self destruct so much the score would have been more lobsided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Gase coached scared today plain and simple. I'm not going to label him a failure after 1 game, but he NEEDS to be more aggressive. Heck, he was in the preseason.It’s not 1 game, he was a failure in Miami. What makes you think he’s suddenly going to be a better coach? Also, if Darnold regresses, then he’s a goner. No way he pulls rank over Sam. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Can’t argue. Very basic. But again could it be when your QBs are Osweiller and Matt Moore, is that conservatism by necessity? He didn’t dink and dunk with Peyton Manning at the end of his career. do you think he was calling the plays for Manning? Peyton was always audibling...OMAHA, OMAHA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2jets Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I'm not declaring Gase a failure bit I am a bit worried. I mean one of Darnold's strengths is throwing on the run and you don't call one play that rolls the pocket??? 1. Gives him more time on a day he didn't have time 2. Its one of his major strengths!!!! I'm worried about Gase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Y2jets said: I'm not declaring Gase a failure bit I am a bit worried. I mean one of Darnold's strengths is throwing on the run and you don't call one play that rolls the pocket??? 1. Gives him more time on a day he didn't have time 2. Its one of his major strengths!!!! I'm worried about Gase This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Look, Big Picture-it's one game. The OL, which is not Gase's nor Douglas's fault. And cannot really fault them for nonperforming defenders across the whole defense. The kicker, well, tryouts should start at 8am tomorrow. Small sample, and all that; did Gase take this job to run a conventional offense, or did he come here to really have a serious passing offense? Today in that equation was not encouraging. We've seen this over and over-Groh, Edwards, Ryan, Bowles-boring staid run oriented offense . The division leader for 2 decades scores points. The Pats pass effectively. Either do that or go do something else with your life. This scared run/run/incompletion/punt thing is not gonna work, it never has, it never will, no matter how good Bell is. And you're gonna wear Bell out in 6 weeks doing this. I hope today was a cold hard smack by reality that this was not acceptable. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Big picture is basically what we knew already. We have a young promising QB who is going to be half great/half meh. We have a stout interior D that is excellent against the run and that has great safety play (Both Maye and Adams were excellent today). Our secondary and pass rush is not so good. On O, the Oline is still a problem. They'll probably turn out to be just a bit below average. Bell was excellent (so that should be a huge question mark answered in a positive way) as was Crowder (as predicted). We knew of course that our skill players weren't good enough, and we are badly missing our absent TE and we lack a number 1 wr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Hael said: Big picture is basically what we knew already. We have a young promising QB who is going to be half great/half meh. We have a stout interior D that is excellent against the run and that has great safety play (Both Maye and Adams were excellent today). Our secondary and pass rush is not so good. On O, the Oline is still a problem. They'll probably turn out to be just a bit below average. Bell was excellent (so that should be a huge question mark answered in a positive way) as was Crowder (as predicted). We knew of course that our skill players weren't good enough, and we are badly missing our absent TE and we lack a number 1 wr. Gonna discount anything else you say. Adams blitzed several times and didn't get there. Maye had some nice plays but if he hangs onto the INT at 16-0 the game is over. Once Mosely got hurt, needed somebody on the defense to make a play. Neither safety made such a play. Saying they're good players over and over doesn't make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I don't know what game you were watching, but Adams was one of the few players applying pressure to the QB. He forced a safety, he clogged up numerous run plays and was just excellent all around. Maye was all over the passing lanes, and I don't think I saw him beat a single time last night. They weren't the problem.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hael said: I don't know what game you were watching, but Adams was one of the few players applying pressure to the QB. He forced a safety, he clogged up numerous run plays and was just excellent all around. Maye was all over the passing lanes, and I don't think I saw him beat a single time last night. They weren't the problem.... Keep telling yourself things that aren't true doesn't make it so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Adam Gase is going to be a big part of the solution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Sometimes all you need is one example to decide. The second Bowles lost in Buffalo in 2015, most of us knew he was garbage. The 10-6 season couldn’t mask that. Already, this has been quite revealing for Gase. It wasn’t just losing, it was how we lost. The conservative playcalling. The lack of adjustments. wash - rinse - repeat. If we lose to cleveland, which we most likely will...I can see most of the fanbase checking out on this season. It’s already pathetic. Yeah “its only week 1” my ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 13 hours ago, T0mShane said: I mean, we all acknowledge that he’s taking over a team that’s been constructed over the last decade by three of the worst personnel men in the history of the sport. He just dumped the worst of those three in May, after the draft. The team sucks, and it’d suck if Belichick was coaching it today. I’m all for a good old-fashioned barn-burning, but declaring Gase a failure today is extreme. Was yesterday the first game he’s ever coached or is he continuing a trend of coaching terrible offenses? You know the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talonmm Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 14 hours ago, T0mShane said: My theory is that Gase knows the team is bad and it doesn’t particularly bother him to lose these games by one point I thought we wanted coaches and players here who hate to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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