Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, genot said: I see a defense that desperately needs a #1 corner. There's only about 20 of those in the entire league, at most. Who's just going to give away one of those without requiring our 1st rounder and then some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, Losmeister said: we'll see eventually... if your gonna compare 16 games of spencer/harrikson against a 5 time probowler who hasnt practiced at all and has only played 1 game... still no excuse to just make up fake sh*t up about how the dude retired out of pure ignorance Honestly, I though he had just played last season. Had I known he didn't, I would have said something like JD got a guy who retired over a season ago. It wasn't something that exactly disproved the point I was trying to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: No, it's not. Not at all. You do realize those building in Vegas keep getting taller for a reason. They put us at 7.5 wins. That's about right. After failing to win on Sunday despite getting spotted a 16-0 lead on turnovers, we look closer to 6-10 than 10-6. Have you seen the upcoming schedule? And injuries are part of the game. You can't assume all starters will stay healthy. It's baked into the equation that players will get hurt. Le'Veon Bell hasn't played a full 16-game season since 2014. What happens if/when he goes down? Vegas sets a public line to get the most action on both sides... its a public view of what the team will or won't be... it has nothing to do with what they will actually finish at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: No, not at all... You are being extreme.. nobody said all in except you... I am saying make some moves because they need players in here beyond the starters... if no starters get hurt this is still a 10 win team. You get 7 draft picks per year. We can't afford to lose them now. I agree, bring in another kicker. I don't agree with trading anything. You could not find an unbiased source call this a 10-win team. Vegas sure didn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: And you know this how? Are you the one watching the Centers perform in practice? Recall that this is a completely different system than the one we were running last year. If Harrison wasn't making proper pre-snap judgments in practice, it became a risk trotting him out there as the unquestioned starter. I don't know this for sure. Khalil was a wreck on Sunday, though. He'll probably improve, as the season progresses. He better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: Vegas sets a public line to get the most action on both sides... its a public view of what the team will or won't be... it has nothing to do with what they will actually finish at. They also tend to get a lot of this stuff right. If they set the line too low, lot's of people would have been betting on the Jets to exceed that 7.5 mark and the line would have moved. Where are those 10 wins coming from, if you know better than Vegas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, genot said: This isn't rocket science. You identify positions of weakness and you do what you need to do to fill those positions. As long as your not getting ripped off. Mac tried to trade for Mac. The price was too high. two 1st rounders, i believe. I'm not giving up on this season. I see a defense that desperately needs a #1 corner. We desperately need a competent field goal kicker. Hit the phones, and work something out. That's his job. That Dougalsss guy. No, you don't do whatever it takes to fill them. That's not how consistently good franchises win. They win by drafting well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Let the 6-10 season happen, people. Jets Fans: Proudly Giving Up on the Current Season Before Week 2 Since 1970. I hear from Tom that if we just give Gase and Co. four to six more years, we might have a contender! I can't speak for you, but I will be VERY excited when that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, More Cowbell said: Honestly, I though he had just played last season. Had I known he didn AKA- my ignorance can be excused by even more ignorance... go look up the story ffs.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: You get 7 draft picks per year. We can't afford to lose them now. I agree, bring in another kicker. I don't agree with trading anything. You could not find an unbiased source call this a 10-win team. Vegas sure didn't. Vegas sets public lines... geez ... I figured you guys would understand that... It takes into consideration what the public thinks more then what will actually happen. Vegas wants people betting on both sides at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, Warfish said: Jets Fans: Proudly Giving Up on the Current Season Before Week 2 Since 1970. I hear from Tom that if we just give Gase and Co. four to six more years, we might have a contender! I can't speak for you, but I will be VERY excited when that happens. Better to accept what this team is right now and hope our GM nails his draft picks than go all-in on a 9-7 season right now. Going all-in on 9-7 is how you end up with Kirk Cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: Vegas sets public lines... geez ... I figured you guys would understand that... It takes into consideration what the public thinks more then what will actually happen. Vegas wants people betting on both sides at all times. And if they were way off on this stuff, they'd lose a lot of money. It's in their best interests for the actual results to come close to where they set the line. They don't get it wrong often. Hence why homer Jets fans probably are going to lose a lot of money betting over on 7.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: They also tend to get a lot of this stuff right. If they set the line too low, lot's of people would have been betting on the Jets to exceed that 7.5 mark and the line would have moved. Where are those 10 wins coming from, if you know better than Vegas? Again VEGAS SETS A PUBLIC LINE.... NOT A TRUE W/L... jesus... how do you not get this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: You get 7 draft picks per year. We can't afford to lose them now. I agree, bring in another kicker. I don't agree with trading anything. You could not find an unbiased source call this a 10-win team. Vegas sure didn't. I'd give the Dolphins a #2, and more for Howard in a heartbeat. More meaning , other than a 1st rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I miss Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Checking in...do we have a kicker yet? If not, JD is still negligent in his duties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Better to accept what this team is right now and hope our GM nails his draft picks than go all-in on a 9-7 season right now. Going all-in on 9-7 is how you end up with Kirk Cousins. 9-7 sounds rather nice to me right now. But I guess your dream of perennial 4-6 win seasons is cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, genot said: I'd give the Dolphins a #2, and more for Howard in a heartbeat. More meaning , other than a 1st rd pick They'd laugh at that offer. They'd want a 1st. CB1's don't grow on trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Anderson will want to be paid like a WR1, so it won't be helpful that he's a good WR3 for long. Crowder is the slot guy, not the WR2. So like you say, we'll need someone on the outside across from Enunwa. But we'll also need someone to upgrade from Enunwa as well. So we may need TWO new starting receivers over the next 1-2 offseasons. I let Anderson test FA after the season ... believe he'll be surprised that any offers he gets will be #3 WR $. For continuity with Darnold purposes I try to bring him back at #3 WR $ once that happens ... if not I find another #3 level WR to pay #3 WR $ to. Will agree to disagree on Crowder. He should put up strong #2 WR numbers this year. I don't care where he stands when we hike the ball. I was a lot younger at the time, but I believe it was common for Keyshaun and Ward to be outside with Chrebet lining up in the slot ... anyway, irrelevant to my point. Unfortunately I don't see Enunwa becoming what we hope he will ... def hope I'm wrong on this ... maybe he is able to put up #3 WR numbers Potential #1 WR is where I go with pick 1 in 2020 draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Warfish said: 9-7 sounds rather nice to me right now. But I guess your dream of perennial 4-6 win seasons is cool too. I don't want 4-6 win seasons forever. I want to be a SB contender. A team with a 6-10 roster going all in for 9-7 for the immediate present prevents teams from actually becoming contenders. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, kevinc855 said: Checking in...do we have a kicker yet? If not, JD is still negligent in his duties Yes we do. So he’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Exactly... Whether he has deals on the side or not... would you like to make 40 Million a year and have to play with the montcriefs of the league or play for 20 and get AB and Gordon If the league protected me like they do Brady, if my wife was worth 100M, I could get the team to pay my BS nutrition company, and I could sit in a holiday inn express and sign autographs for kids and slobs for 8 hours if I ever needed to make a million, I'd take the 20M. If I couldn't, I'd probably take the money. That's me though. I think Luck did the right thing, and I'd do the same. Get a huge contract, make 100M, and bail out before my body and brain gets wrecked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Peace Frog said: Yes we do. So he’s not. Ficken das Ficken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: They'd laugh at that offer. They'd want a 1st. CB1's don't grow on trees. As a starting point. Why keep a guy making that much money. by the time the Dolphins roster is rebuilt, his contract will be up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Looks like @The Voice of Reason downvotes posts that harm his fragile psyche. @Jets Voice of Reason is the real VOR in these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Again VEGAS SETS A PUBLIC LINE.... NOT A TRUE W/L... jesus... how do you not get this. Ah, so Vegas is the one with bias, not Jets fans, related to the Jets. Does this extend to all teams/fans? Or just you? Like, is that raider guy also right about how dominant the raiders will be? Meanwhile, if this is a 10-win team, if healthy, what bet would you be willing to make at O/U 9.5? I'm interested in the under. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, genot said: As a starting point. Why keep a guy making that much money. by the time the Dolphins roster is rebuilt, his contract will be up. Why settle for a 2nd? There are 31 other teams in the league. Let them bid for his services. I bet they could get a 1st from a contending team who expects to have a late 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, jgb said: I miss Rex Rex would have thrown himself under the bus after that game. not his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: Jets Fans: Proudly Giving Up on the Current Season Before Week 2 Since 1970. I hear from Tom that if we just give Gase and Co. four to six more years, we might have a contender! I can't speak for you, but I will be VERY excited when that happens. So, what is your solution? To trade away 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round picks right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, genot said: Rex would have thrown himself under the bus after that game. not his players. Adam Gase is probably the least self aware non serial killer in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, genot said: As a starting point. Why keep a guy making that much money. by the time the Dolphins roster is rebuilt, his contract will be up. 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why settle for a 2nd? There are 31 other teams in the league. Let them bid for his services. I bet they could get a 1st from a contending team who expects to have a late 1st. Also, Howard is signed thru 2024. There's no rush to move him. Are you thinking of Jalen Ramsey? He will most DEFINITELY require a 1st round pick and then some. And he'd also need a massive new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why settle for a 2nd? There are 31 other teams in the league. Let them bid for his services. I bet they could get a 1st from a contending team who expects to have a late 1st. Agreed. Someone may get injured on a contender and they could be convinced to over-pay. Doesn’t make sense for the Jets to trade a 2nd and then have to pay that salary. At some point a competent regime needs to hit on some draft picks and create their own starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Looks like @The Voice of Reason downvotes posts that harm his fragile psyche. @Jets Voice of Reason is the real VOR in these parts. I down voted 1 of your million posts and you call me out on it... HAHA you are ficken ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: I down voted 1 of your million posts and you call me out on it... HAHA you are ficken ridiculous. I called you out on it because there was no reason for it, Mr. Voice of Reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Again VEGAS SETS A PUBLIC LINE.... NOT A TRUE W/L... jesus... how do you not get this. If you think a book is going to misprice an NFL season line by two and a half games to square up the action then you're the one who doesnt have the first ******* idea how this stuff actually works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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