Barry McCockinner Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Suffice to say the 2020 season is also over. There are 16 games in 2020 and we're likely to lose all of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I predict Sam comes back after the bye week in week 5. The week 4 bye is a lucky right now. This weeks Monday night game against the Browns is literally the season on the line. We will not beat the patriots in week three. Starting oh and three is game over, see you in 2020. This weeks Monday night game against the Browns; literally the season is on the line. We will not beat the patriots in week three. Starting oh and three is game over, see you in 2020. This is literally a must win week to salvage the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 17 hours ago, nico002 said: Because it’s possible that this is the only game that is actually impacted by his absence. We weren’t beating the Pats in foxboro either way, then it’s the bye. 0-3 has always been a very likely outcome... In fact, 0-6 was very likely as well. We were going to be underdogs the next three weeks even with Darnold. The good news... the next 7 after that we’ll be favored... Makes you wish for something sterner than a buttfumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 This season was "over" from Day 1, if by "over" you mean our playoff chances. The entire goal of the season was for our offense-minded HC to get the most out of Sam Darnold and assist with his development. This season is thus put on hold until Darnold gets healthy. No real reason to watch until then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Same Old Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: This season was "over" from Day 1, if by "over" you mean our playoff chances. The entire goal of the season was for our offense-minded HC to get the most out of Sam Darnold and assist with his development. This season is thus put on hold until Darnold gets healthy. No real reason to watch until then. They were never a threat to make the playoffs this season. Was looking forward to seeing progress and that hope was erased after watching the Bill's game. Going 8-8 or 9-7 would have given hope for next year. My prediction is we go 1-7 first half and 6-2 second half. Will win enough so they draft in the middle of the pack in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 19 hours ago, nico002 said: Because it’s possible that this is the only game that is actually impacted by his absence. We weren’t beating the Pats in foxboro either way, then it’s the bye. 0-3 has always been a very likely outcome... In fact, 0-6 was very likely as well. We were going to be underdogs the next three weeks even with Darnold. The good news... the next 7 after that we’ll be favored... Can you wait until we're 0-2 before announcing we're 0-6? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Depends what you mean by "over." This team was never making the playoffs. But if Sam's illness lingers and becomes a lost season in terms of his development, then it's disappointing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 hours ago, bitonti said: Jets are historically excellent for home openers and they were actually good at home last year Leveon Bell is the most famous player from either team etc. there were legitimate reasons why Jets were 2.5 point favorites and to be honest the models were right if I told you they were up 16-0 at one point would you be worried about the 2.5 points? All this sounds good, until we talk about the fact that the Jets lost the game. And the Jets being 2.5 point favorites is probably because they knew that not even a 16 point lead would be safe with a team like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: All this sounds good, until we talk about the fact that the Jets lost the game. And the Jets being 2.5 point favorites is probably because they knew that not even a 16 point lead would be safe with a team like this. Vegas is not some mythical soothsayer. It's simply crowdsourcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, jgb said: Depends what you mean by "over." This team was never making the playoffs. But if Sam's illness lingers and becomes a lost season in terms of his development, then it's disappointing. Disagree. If we had a functioning kicker we beat the bills and realistically would have been 3-4 after the demonic early part of our schedule second half of this years schedule is way easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Augustiniak said: and that's not counting cleveland, which won 5 of their last 7 games last year. Who beat one team with a winning record and not one playoff team. They're not the 1-15 Browns but theyre beatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Disagree. If we had a functioning kicker we beat the bills and realistically would have been 3-4 after the demonic early part of our schedule second half of this years schedule is way easier IF....... the most widely used word that a losing side uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: IF....... the most widely used word that a losing side uses. Except its true here. With a real kicker we're 1-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 It's never over, it's one big perpetual suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 12% chance after 0-2= over= no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Philc1 said: Disagree. If we had a functioning kicker we beat the bills and realistically would have been 3-4 after the demonic early part of our schedule second half of this years schedule is way easier Not just about the bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 The season was or would never be over with Sam Getting experience. Delusional playoff hopes and expectations just sets up for disappointment. I was excited regardless of the record in 2019 just to see Sam develope as we install new offensive and defensive systems. Then Douglas and Gase would have a full offseason working together to hopefully move the needle forward. 2020 at the very earliest in when this team COULD be in the wild card conversation. We are still on schedule for that. We take a step back by losing Darnold possibly for the whole year and him not developing but we take a step forward by getting a high draft pick that we should try like hell to trade down and properly make up for all the missed draft picks. We should be in better shape in regards to the roster than originally planned because of this unfortunate situation but we will be worse off at QB. Still plenty of potential for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 At the very least, Darnold is going to be out through the tuff part of the schedule. Having him come back and play well against the softer teams at the end will be good for his development, but will end up hurting what they can do to build a winner. The last thing this team needs is more meaningless wins. Joe Douglas needs as much as possible to build something. If they are out of it early, they should move players for picks and build through the draft. Look at how much talent Joe Douglas amassed on his former team's rosters. All the Jets have been collecting is coffee cups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, southparkcpa said: IF....... the most widely used word that a losing side uses. Yes, if we had even a mediocre Kicker we win last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, jgb said: Not just about the bills. What do you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What do you mean Even if we squeak one out there I agree with Vegas that we were extreme long shots to make playoffs. Seemed like easy money to me but wasn’t worth betting 700 to win a lousy 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 6:36 PM, jgb said: Vegas is not some mythical soothsayer. It's simply crowdsourcing. this is untrue for the 1st books who set the line Sunday night for the next week someone is making a choice based on EXCEL models and other math bullcrap and it's all based on not only this year but historical trends etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: this is untrue for the 1st books who set the line Sunday night for the next week someone is making a choice based on EXCEL models and other math bullcrap and it's all based on not only this year but historical trends etc Great respect for you Matt but the initial lines are not set based on what the oddsmaker thinks may happen in the game but rather at what point the oddsmaker believes the public will bet equally in each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJaime Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 9:57 PM, Beerfish said: 0-3 was NEVER the likely outcome playing our 1st game at home, vs a so so buffalo team. The Jets beat the Bills if Darnold was playing like he did last year even. The Bills did EVERYTHING they could to gift wrap that game for the Jets in the first half. I knew it was bad when it was only 6-0 and they had gotten 3 take aways already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Realistically season was over at 0-0 with Sam. This was a year with the upside of being a proving ground for Sam. We have been robbed of that. That is the true tragedy of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, jgb said: Great respect for you Matt but the initial lines are not set based on what the oddsmaker thinks may happen in the game but rather at what point the oddsmaker believes the public will bet equally in each side. except in cases like Cowboys or USC trojans (dumb money) what you are talking about is a distinction without a difference. the initial sunday night bookmakers are setting a table for the public to consume (and sometimes they are very wrong) but they are not pulling these numbers out of thin air and they are trying to sell a realistic story I.e. Miami "only" got 19 points last week because most divisional NFL games don't end 43-0 they are heavily invested in historical trends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, bitonti said: except in cases like Cowboys or USC trojans (dumb money) what you are talking about is a distinction without a difference. the initial sunday night bookmakers are setting a table for the public to consume (and sometimes they are very wrong) but they are not pulling these numbers out of thin air and they are trying to sell a realistic story I.e. Miami "only" got 19 points last week because most divisional NFL games don't end 43-0 they are heavily invested in historical trends I cannot disagree with you on this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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