New York Mick Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: I love young Yankee fans who don’t think Babe Ruth was greatest Yankee. I ask them to google greatest baseball player and it is RUTH. There is NO list, none, that don’t have RUTH as 1 baseball player. That said... I googled Best QB and looked at 5 lists, ESPN, Sporting news etc... ALL, no exception, have Brady. So... there’s that. I’m sure there is some list that has Joe, but he is number 2 on all the lists I looked at. I hate baseball it’s boring as ****. I don’t care what writers say and they pretend Brady/Pats didn’t get caught cheating. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Considering Brady (not Montana) with 6, maybe 7 ring, Mahomes has his work cut out for him. I hate saying Brady is the best but you can't ignore what he has accomplished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Was Joe Montana a better QB than Marino? He was blessed with arguably the greatest WR of all time and a coach whose offensive system changed the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Didn't turn on him. Just tired of patiently waiting for even decent QB play. While guys like Watson, Mahommes, and Lamar Jackson burst on to the scene immediately. While Jet fans have to wait for the perfect scenario and pray our QBs can string together 2 good games. This Lamar Jackson sh*t has to stop. The guy had 2 good games and one of them was against the Dolphins and he didn’t exactly light it up in the playoffs last year either. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Patrick Mahomes II is the best pure thrower since Dan Marino, and may be better then Marino. Phuch out here with this nonsense thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: I was so so so so so so wrong on Mahomes. Man. I told you that 3 years ago ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, southparkcpa said: Brady is best QB ever...... I don’t see how after 6 rings, 9 appearances it’s even a discussion. I hate it.... but facts are stubborn things. I thought it was a team sport. Plus all those SB appearances were tainted and in many, Brady was not the reason for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yes. And the weird group of weirdos on here that can't seem to read good will still be yelling at anyone critical of the Jets for passing on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 very early and tough to debate eras but he certainty could be the best qb for the next 12 years if he keeps it up. the things he does is crazy. helps he has reid at the helm but dude is def the best as of right now. and i usually say its brady even tho i hate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Considering Brady (not Montana) with 6, maybe 7 ring, Mahomes has his work cut out for him. I hate saying Brady is the best but you can't ignore what he has accomplished. And he did it all by himself? I can make a list a mile long why Brady is not the best QB. With the constant cheating, the ridiculous calls in their favor in numerous AFC title games and the absurd gifts they were give by Seattle and Atlanta, I'm not sure he doesn't win only 1 or none. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, CotcheryifyouCan said: very early and tough to debate eras but he certainty could be the best qb for the next 12 years if he keeps it up. the things he does is crazy. helps he has reid at the helm but dude is def the best as of right now. and i usually say its brady even tho i hate him. Reid was better with Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Yes. And the weird group of weirdos on here that can't seem to read good will still be yelling at anyone critical of the Jets for passing on him. Read well..... but that’s a Rutgers thing I guess. ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The guy’s been great for a year. So he’s not the greatest of all time. My vote wouldn’t go for Montana. Off the top of my head if I had one vote it would prob go to Marino. But I wouldn’t argue if you named 10 other great QBs incl Montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 If you weren't a special needs child, I would completely embarrass you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Unfortunately at this point it's a ridiculous uneven comparison due to the different eras. Football has changed completely. The players are different the rules are different, everything is different .You can't take a player from 40 years ago and compare him with a guy now. It just doesn't work like that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: And lost half of them as well as being caught cheating numerous times. Montana is the best QB ever But Vinny T has more passing yardage and TD's..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 To follow up I would like to ask if anybody caught the first ever Monday Night Football game between the Jets and the Browns? They just aired it on NFL Network. The players today are so much more athletic and the players back then were so much tougher. It's literally a completely different game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Yes and MacF*** passed on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: And he did it all by himself? I can make a list a mile long why Brady is not the best QB. With the constant cheating, the ridiculous calls in their favor in numerous AFC title games and the absurd gifts they were give by Seattle and Atlanta, I'm not sure he doesn't win only 1 or none. He has 6 rings and is an integral part of that teams success. Sorry, fact are hard to argue with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Blackout said: Will he? How about he actually, you know, DOES something first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 No he won't pass Peyton Manning as the best QB ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, RobR said: When he puts a few rings on his fingers. He already is sharing the ALLSTATE commercials with ROGERS. Looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I was very skeptical about this kid but he is so far carrying his success over. He has a good set of players around him but I can't not give him credit for what he has accomplished so far in his short nfl careerSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said: To follow up I would like to ask if anybody caught the first ever Monday Night Football game between the Jets and the Browns? They just aired it on NFL Network. The players today are so much more athletic and the players back then were so much tougher. It's literally a completely different game. More athletic? Uhh, no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: And lost half of them as well as being caught cheating numerous times. Montana is the best QB ever Montana also played during an era where CB's were allowed to play defense and QB's could be hit. Brady would have been around 4th best during that era behind Montana, Elway, and Marino. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, southparkcpa said: Brady is best QB ever...... I don’t see how after 6 rings, 9 appearances it’s even a discussion. I hate it.... but facts are stubborn things. Because not all of us look at rings as the end all be all. Championships will always be a team thing. Not to mention that 3 of their 6 titles, they had luck/good fortune go their way (which historically alot of winning teams/players have had good luck on their side). I don't have a problem with anybody thinking Brady is the GOAT. But I find it funny that nobody else can give any other reason aside from the flawed rings logic as to why. So if he only had 3 rings instead of 6, he wouldn't be the GOAT? I think a better argument for Brady being the GOAT is his long sustained level of dominance. How many other QBs have been dominant for 15+ years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I'd say at the moment Patrick Mahomes is the best young quarterback to build your team around, but I'd never say he's going to be the best ever. He'll have to be blessed with longevity in the NFL for that to be a possibility. You never know when mono takes you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, southparkcpa said: I love young Yankee fans who don’t think Babe Ruth was greatest Yankee. I ask them to google greatest baseball player and it is RUTH. There is NO list, none, that don’t have RUTH as 1 baseball player. That said... I googled Best QB and looked at 5 lists, ESPN, Sporting news etc... ALL, no exception, have Brady. So... there’s that. I’m sure there is some list that has Joe, but he is number 2 on all the lists I looked at. The funny thing is that it doesn't seem like it's a guarantee that the Babe would even be good enough to play in the majors these days. And the Montana/Brady thing, it's very hard to judge eras. Montana played in an era where QBs got crushed. Nowadays the league protects QBs as much as possible. But I would still agree it should go to Brady at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: I told you that 3 years ago ?? I'm still eating the crow.... F*ck dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, RobR said: Mahomes is absolutely gashing this Raiders defense. It's comical at this point since he can't throw a deep ball. The chief offense does that to most every defense they play. See Jalen Ramsey and the Jaguars defense last week. To beat them you have to win a shootout , or keep that offense off the field . Mike Mayock thought he assembled an offense that could match that Chief offense point for point. ( AB screwed those plans ) Not having Jj Nelson speed today( still injured) really limited the offense. Was like going to gun fight , with knives. Ryan Grant made sense when you had Antonio Brown , and Jj Nelson. ( he’s a zone buster, but is useless against man to man). I would cut Ryan Grant, and promote Wr Rico Gafford from practice squad( fastest Raider player) . Have to open up the whole field for Wr Tyrell Williams, Te D Waller and Josh Jacobs to exploit . JJ Nelson ( out the first two weeks with ankle injury) and Rico Gafford make it impossible to double team Tyrell Williams. The Raiders aren’t on the Chiefs level yet, but give Mayock time and they will get the weapons to compete with the Chiefs. Getting R Incognito back from suspension just makes the offense line that much better. ( Gabe Jackson in another couple of weeks will complete the offense line. Can’t get upset with this loss, as you aren’t going to see many offenses as good as the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, King P said: Because not all of us look at rings as the end all be all. Championships will always be a team thing. Not to mention that 3 of their 6 titles, they had luck/good fortune go their way (which historically alot of winning teams/players have had good luck on their side). I don't have a problem with anybody thinking Brady is the GOAT. But I find it funny that nobody else can give any other reason aside from the flawed rings logic as to why. So if he only had 3 rings instead of 6, he wouldn't be the GOAT? I think a better argument for Brady being the GOAT is his long sustained level of dominance. How many other QBs have been dominant for 15+ years? Cant disagree with you... I can’t find any list that doesn’t have bRady number 1. to your point, for many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, nico002 said: Was wide open so it was a TD bad throw though right? Inaccurate deep ball thrower right? Am I doing it right? Eat an engorged Male member 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Will ketchup/catsup ever make a comeback vs Salsa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The chief offense does that to most every defense they play. See Jalen Ramsey and the Jaguars defense last week. To beat them you have to win a shootout , or keep that offense off the field . Mike Mayock thought he assembled an offense that could match that Chief offense point for point. ( AB screwed those plans ) Not having Jj Nelson speed today( still injured) really limited the offense. Was like going to gun fight , with knives. Ryan Grant made sense when you had Antonio Brown , and Jj Nelson. ( he’s a zone buster, but is useless against man to man). I would cut Ryan Grant, and promote Wr Rico Gafford from practice squad( fastest Raider player) . Have to open up the whole field for Wr Tyrell Williams, Te D Waller and Josh Jacobs to exploit . JJ Nelson ( out the first two weeks with ankle injury) and Rico Gafford make it impossible to double team Tyrell Williams. The Raiders aren’t on the Chiefs level yet, but give Mayock time and they will get the weapons to compete with the Chiefs. Getting R Incognito back from suspension just makes the offense line that much better. ( Gabe Jackson in another couple of weeks will complete the offense line. Can’t get upset with this loss, as you aren’t going to see many offenses as good as the Chiefs. How many players did the Jets claim from the raiders cuts again? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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