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This thread is a truly compelling microcosm of psychology.

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If we make the playoffs, does Macc win Executive of the Year?

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Threads like this is why PatsFans.com laughs at us.

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Just now, Jolot said:

This team is going 3-13. 

You optimist

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Just now, johnnysd said:

Deep down I actually DO believe this. THe last few seasons under Bowles I knew it was going to be awful but I just dont feel that way this year. I still feel excited an optimistic.

I remember when I also believed in magical thinking.

 

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4 minutes ago, SAR I said:

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The Indianapolis Colts were 1-5 last year and made it to the Divisional Round of the AFC Playoffs.  I mean, the Jets beat the spit out of them for cripsakes.

Have a little faith, peeps.

SAR I

Pointing out exceptions does not change anything 

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12 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Except when the exceptions are the rule.

Every year in the AFC, 4 of the 6 teams didn't make it from the year before and 1 of those 6 teams got off to an awful start.

So this year it's us.  Why not?  Which of these teams is better than the Jets when we last saw them as a whole against the Falcons or, if you like, even the Bills:

2-0 Bills
1-1 Chargers
1-1 Browns
1-1 Titans
1-1 Colts
0-2 Steelers

That's the landscape.  We are 1 game out of the wildcard even in our current pathetic state.  We need to be Top 2 on that list.  We already had the Bills beat.  Only the Chargers have a franchise quarterback.  The Browns are about to lose 4 straight.  The Colts lost Luck.  The Steelers lost Ben. 

SAR I

Accepting your statistics as true, how is 1 out of 6 not an exception?

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4 minutes ago, SAR I said:

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And while I could continue, let me end this recent wildcard history lesson and introduce Prince Abubu to the 2017 Miami Dolphins.  Opened 1-4.  Closed 9-2.  Made the playoffs at 10-6.  With a backup quarterback.  With a first year head coach.

So enjoy your Sunday.  Go apple picking with the kids.  Don't watch TV.  Not just for Sunday, but until the morning of Sunday, October 6.  Because that is New Opening Day 2019 where your New York Jets are going to go 9-4 and grab a wildcard.

SAR I

You’re a true believer I will give you that 

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If the Jets make the playoffs, Gase is a slam dunk coach of the year. It would be one of the more incredible stories in the NFL in recent years.

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8 hours ago, Same Old said:

If it is "this" then you have established Sam is nothing other than a high draft pick by a historical sh-it team and clearly has Not earned the title of franchise qb.

Took you awhile but you in the end got it right. 

 

8 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Whatever dude are you a millennial?  You do realize qbs usually take years to develop Sam has had one

Uh... you guys are agreeing

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On 9/23/2019 at 1:44 AM, Y2jets said:

We need to sit Sam all year.  Lose every gane and trade away the number #1 for a boat load of picks so Joe D can start his rebuild. Starts with the whole Oline

#Meaninglesswins! in September. Does the pain ever end for Jets fans?

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1 hour ago, SAR I said:

It's a mulligan on this forum.  If someone downvotes you unfairly, you have the ability to counter it.  I don't upvote any of my posts otherwise.  And you can count on 1 hand how many times I've ever downvoted anyone.

Don't you have a cow to tip?  Or do you prefer it standing up?

SAR I

Dude... you’re better than that. I hope.

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1 hour ago, SAR I said:

3 INT's, 46% COMP, 46.4 QBR.

Boy, that Josh Allen is just carrying the Bills.  Against 1-8 level competition, that is.

SAR I

Got concussed and played Pats’ elite D tougher than anyone has yet this year. 

This could be a very premature victory lap.

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26 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

We are still making the playoffs.

Which year?

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6 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

Allen leads the league in INTs and has by far the lowest passer rating of any starting QB.  He is not good.  He’s Mark Sanchez to an elite Bills Defense.

So we're ready to say he sucks based on about the same number of games that we're ready to crown Darnold. Gotcha.

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8 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

You must have me mistaken as someone crowning Darnold.

But yes, I’m comfortable saying Allen sucks today.

You're better than the pro scouts. So you've seen Darnold play the same amount of games approximately, what's your conclusion on him, then?

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10 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Would you rather have Allen or Daniel Jones today? 

Ohhhhhhhhh... that's an enticing question. The answer is I don't know. Gun to my head? I'd probably say Daniel Jones but that's just to blurt a name to save my own ass.

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5 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

Inconclusive.  I don’t see an elite QB, but I also see a floor at above average.

I wouldn’t have drafted Allen in round 1.

Sounds like you're basing your analysis on Allen based on what you saw in college, which is fair, but he's also inconclusive imho.

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Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

 

Does it?

Protip: Read the actual post I replied to.

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5 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

This is why I mentioned college/draft.

Cool, well I don't follow much college ball, and certainly not Univ. of Wyoming but I've seen some wow moments from Allen and also from Darnold. And plenty of head scratchers, too. I think jury out on both.

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13 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

Pro tip: nobody watched Josh Allen in college.

So glad you joined this conversation to create ambiguity where there was none. The guy I'm talking to is following along just fine. I don't come here to discuss semantics so  kindly understand if I don't respond unless you make a football point.

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19 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

That’s fine.  Anything can happen in the future.  But today, I am comfortable with my ‘decision’ not to draft Allen.  I’m including college in so far as he looks like the exact same player in the NFL as he did in college.  I’d be more inconclusive if there was some evidence of a struggle to transition to the pro game or some reason to think the college struggles weren’t the reality.  That doesn’t seem to be the case at present.  Rather, I think you’re seeing a big, strong, guy with the best “weapinzzzzz” he’s ever had, still struggling to complete passes, and turning the ball over at an alarming rate.

You had it Darnold, Baker, Rosen, Allen in that order? Where did Jackson slot in for you?

FWIW, I had Baker, Darnold, Allen, Jackson, [every other eligible QB], Rosen.

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8 minutes ago, SAR I said:

The Teddy Bridgewater Saints just beat the Cowboys and the Bucs just beat the Rams, so why can't the Jets beat the Eagles?

SAR I

Any NFL team can beat any other NFL team

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4 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I'm not actually a huge CFB guy.  I read up on some of the top guys that may have a possibility to become Jets.  I wanted Darnold or Rosen, but could have also been sold on Baker.  I was a bit lower on Baker due to his size.  Admittedly, I liked Rosen more than I probably should have.  I still would like to see him play for a team that isn't a complete, but I'd guess he's pretty much toast at this point as Miami will probably keep him around and draft a QB at #1 this year.  As for Jackson, I was intrigued, but since I was pretty sure there was no way were were going to give him serious consideration, I didn't read/watch much.  I simply did not want Allen because he was wildly inaccurate.

Don't think Allen ever had a chance to be a Jet. Macc probably saw a rich man's Hackenberg. If Jints went Darnold, I think we'd be trying to convince ourselves right now that Rosen could succeed with a good line and better weaponz... Glad we dodged that bullet.

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4 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

Macc never did anything to convince me he wouldn't make the worst possible decision and hey, maybe the Jets saw something in Rosen that I didn't.  Regardless, I'm glad to have Darnold, because even though I am not sold on him, I think his floor is pretty high, and I think he'll be pretty good, at least, if we ever put even adequate talent around him.

Darnold is infinitely better than Rosen, whose ceiling is--I believe--Mark Sanchez.

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1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said:

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Thanks Folks...

We will be here all week!! :)  

Will keep pushing it until everyone gets the punchline. People really do think we are playoff bound. Gonna be an ugly December for some of us.

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1 minute ago, Philc1 said:

The year after Woody sells the team

Can’t we make Woody ambassador to the moon, or something?

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17 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

With the first overall pick in the 2020 NFL draft, the New York Jets select Defensive Tackle Piere Patiatowski out of South West Missouri State. 

Positives- Has the ability to get A bull rush up the middle and is stout against the run. He is highly considered the best defensive player in the draft. 

Negatives- He's a 28 year old 5th year Sr. 

I actually wonder what Macc would do with the first pick of the draft... he can’t just select whoever has fallen the farthest.

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3 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Why? That job might actually be important 

Considering his head is full of rocks, he should be able to communicate with them effectively.

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1 hour ago, BurnleyJet said:

The Homers have been broken, SAR 1 broke when the news hit Captain Speen is still out. I want to see how bad this dumpster fire can get. I imagine it’s going to be new level bad.

On a brighter note Gase is one and done.

Homers never break they just take a little rest. The next relatively decent Jets offensive drive they reactivate like when you add water to those freeze-dried mail-order sea monkeys.

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4 hours ago, Hael said:

There is no way the Dolphins beat us.  They might be the worst team I’ve ever seen, right up there with those bad Lions and Browns teams.

The truth of the matter is that while we are bad, there are a metric crap ton of bad teams in the league as well right now.  It really wouldn’t surprise me if we got 6 or 7 wins this year, even with Falk as qb.

No way? None? These are not words I would use to describe the chances of any bad thing happening to the Jets this season.

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I wonder how we will go to playoffs with none of our players making the Pro Bowl.

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2 hours ago, SAR I said:

Like I said, its a matter of time until the inevitable RGIII ending, enjoy the winning while you can.  77% of teams that open 4-1 make the playoffs.  Oops.

12/29, right around 4:15PM.  You won't come back here, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

SAR I

So let me get this straight: Jets fans who are pessimistic about the 0-4 Jets are sad sack losers. But Bills fans who are optimistic about the 4-1 Bills are delusional.

Serious question: do you really not see the issue with this?

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1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Serious answer:

What I thought about these two teams in August I still believe in October.  That the Jets are a playoff team and that the Bills are improved but not as good as the Jets.  And I see that view derailed by a ridiculous act of God that cost us our starting quarterback until Game 5.

So the Jets fan shouldn't be pessimistic because we just faced a very tough schedule and are soon getting Sam back and the Bills fan shouldn't be optimistic because they just faced a cake schedule and they have a flawed quarterback.

Do yourself a favor and disregard everything you have seen offensively from this team against the Browns, Patriots, and Eagles.  Because that's not the real Jets.  That's a team down to its emergency quarterback who shouldn't be playing in the NFL.  Our defense is playoff caliber, our special teams are playoff caliber, we just need our quarterback back.

SAR I

Thank you for the serious, well-thought out response.

Still think you're wrong about both teams, but hey that's why they play the games.

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