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4 minutes ago, nyjets1969 said:

Falk wouldnt be here Mcarthy would have gotten a decent QB just look at the packers when Roger's  and Farve got hurt always got decent performance out of the backups just shows Gase is Kotite 2.0. The system sucks

Only way the next 3 years isn’t a total disaster is the jets fire Gase and Douglas this January

 

Then they either promote Williams and hire a legit GM or McCarthy

 

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8 hours ago, kmnj said:

so tired of this constant  garbage-this  guy has a losing record for his career-his offenses are bottom tier offenses -he has shown his actually  not capable -and this team passed on a guy with a winning record and a ring-

Name me all of the QB's that have started for him. Then we can continue our conversation. 

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55 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:


Team weren’t exactly lining up to hire Gase.



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True but it's not like I loved the gase hire..I was ok with it. I just knew McCarthy sucked and certainly wouldn't do better with a QB with mono, a QB with a dangling foot and  Luke Falk against the pats.

If the Jets come out of the bye healthy and finish 3-13 anyway then it's fair to question the hire. 

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On 9/22/2019 at 2:39 PM, rammagen said:

But Gase is an offensive guru, he has not shown any game planning ability and every team has injuries period, we are not even talking about winning we are talking about trying and this Offense has not shown up in 3 weeks but Gase is Genius because he has failed himself into jobs,

Loosing coach Miami it as his qb here now they are saying injuries, next yr what will it be? At some point you need to score  at some points you need to show some fight, at some point the coach needs to show up and coach to win the fing game

How many teams are starting a 3rd string QB who was just on the PS last week. 

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16 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

How many teams are starting a 3rd string QB who was just on the PS last week. 

no offense but another excuse, some of those other qbs have less time in their respective systems. In Zcolledge Faulk was a down the field passer why no roll outs or moving the pocket to try to play to his strengths. If the oline is bad,why no innovation or at least trying something because what you have is not working. when your defense and special teams outscore you offense and your offense has put up 11 points it is embarrassing and he is not doing his job.

You cant defend the performance the offense has giving. And that is on the coach and players coaches put players into positions to succeed ask yourself has gase done that?

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4 minutes ago, rammagen said:

no offense but another excuse, some of those other qbs have less time in their respective systems. In Zcolledge Faulk was a down the field passer why no roll outs or moving the pocket to try to play to his strengths. If the oline is bad,why no innovation or at least trying something because what you have is not working. when your defense and special teams outscore you offense and your offense has put up 11 points it is embarrassing and he is not doing his job.

You cant defend the performance the offense has giving. And that is on the coach and players coaches put players into positions to succeed ask yourself has gase done that?

Yes the offense has been putrid, but take it in context of 3 games played. All 3 D's are probably top 10 and maybe top 5. The Jets played 2 whole games with backup QB's . The Oline has been a disaster.

Sure I would have loved to see the Jets attempting to throw downfield more against the Pats , realistically it may have resulted in us seeing Fales as Falk would have been buried. Let's get Sam and some player's back before we judge this all objectively.

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16 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Thanks Captain Obvious. 

Anytime I was going to list the people he coached but why when you can look it up yourself. And you can see he has not had great success as a head coach and the three times he had success as a coordinator was with Kitna, Manning, and Tebow, but he did not do a great job with Tebow as he then bounced to two teams and out of the league. The other qbs he worked with and had success with were vets so did he make them or did they make him.

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20 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

Yes the offense has been putrid, but take it in context of 3 games played. All 3 D's are probably top 10 and maybe top 5. The Jets played 2 whole games with backup QB's . The Oline has been a disaster.

Sure I would have loved to see the Jets attempting to throw downfield more against the Pats , realistically it may have resulted in us seeing Fales as Falk would have been buried. Let's get Sam and some player's back before we judge this all objectively.

but this is not just throwing downfield but moving the pocket or even attempting to adjust to cover up issues. We have seen none of that. 

You can blame injuries but every team has them and needs to overcome them. for an offensive guru we have not seen anything yet and from his time in Miami he went from one winning season to 2 losing seasons. So you need to take everything in from last yr and this yr so it is not just 3 games imho

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1 hour ago, rammagen said:

but this is not just throwing downfield but moving the pocket or even attempting to adjust to cover up issues. We have seen none of that. 

You can blame injuries but every team has them and needs to overcome them. for an offensive guru we have not seen anything yet and from his time in Miami he went from one winning season to 2 losing seasons. So you need to take everything in from last yr and this yr so it is not just 3 games imho

Pats stacked the box ,took away the run, generated more than ample pressure w/o blitzing - what was the counter move Gase could have gone with. No time to throw deep , the middle of the field was all gummed up and Falk was never considered an overly mobile QB, Like I said previously the Pats and Belicheck were probably the worst opponent we could have faced given the circumstances.

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11 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Oh, were you hanging out in the locker room? Management seemed to think the problem wasn't Rodgers.

We’re you hanging out in the front office where they were bad mouthing Mike? We could go back and forth on this all day, the point is that McCarthy was a much better option than gase. 

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19 hours ago, DonCorleone said:

In your opinion, would the Johnson Bros EVER make a move which actually makes sense?

No they are both trust fund babies in way over their heads

 

They are too stupid to hire a McCarthy or Jim Harbaugh when he becomes available this offseason.  They passed on both Doug Marrone and Frank Reich who both wanted to come here in 2015.  Tom Coughlin in 2016 was looking to become a Czar of football operations somewhere and could have stayed here in NY with his family they said no thanks we will stick with this Macagnan guy we like that he drafted Hackenberg inround 2

 

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50 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

No they are both trust fund babies in way over their heads

 

They are too stupid to hire a McCarthy or Jim Harbaugh when he becomes available this offseason.  They passed on both Doug Marrone and Frank Reich who both wanted to come here in 2015.  Tom Coughlin in 2016 was looking to become a Czar of football operations somewhere and could have stayed here in NY with his family they said no thanks we will stick with this Macagnan guy we like that he drafted Hackenberg inround 2

 

Not to mention his other gem "Polite"

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4 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

We’re you hanging out in the front office where they were bad mouthing Mike? We could go back and forth on this all day, the point is that McCarthy was a much better option than gase. 

I think there was enough blame to go around one reason they did not part company with Rodgers is because of the cap hit. why take the hit when you  can change staff without taking a cap hit?

I agree McCarthy was a better choice because he has a record of developing young qbs successfully which Gase does not.

Look at his young qbs Tannehill, Tebow, who else is there? one is a ack up and the other is out of the league. Manning made Gase not the other way around

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21 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

Pats stacked the box ,took away the run, generated more than ample pressure w/o blitzing - what was the counter move Gase could have gone with. No time to throw deep , the middle of the field was all gummed up and Falk was never considered an overly mobile QB, Like I said previously the Pats and Belicheck were probably the worst opponent we could have faced given the circumstances.

this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets.

Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them.

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2 minutes ago, rammagen said:

this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets.

Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them.

Game 1 sick Darnold , Game2 Trevor Seimien , Game3 Luke Falk . Let's see a full gameplan with a healthy starting QB. I know many here expected immediate success with Gase as HC - Let's see how this evolves before we over-react .

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28 minutes ago, rammagen said:

this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets.

Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them.

We killed Bowles for never making defensive adjustments 

 

Only fair to kill Gase for making zero offensive adjustments 

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28 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

Game 1 sick Darnold , Game2 Trevor Seimien , Game3 Luke Falk . Let's see a full gameplan with a healthy starting QB. I know many here expected immediate success with Gase as HC - Let's see how this evolves before we over-react .

Game 1  poor play calling no roll out, no rb scree, no adjustment at the LOS that almost got our franchised QB killed

game 2  Got our back up QB killed

game 3   called for 3 yards pass on 3rd and 15.  ENOUGH SAID. 

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