Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, nyjets1969 said: Falk wouldnt be here Mcarthy would have gotten a decent QB just look at the packers when Roger's and Farve got hurt always got decent performance out of the backups just shows Gase is Kotite 2.0. The system sucks Only way the next 3 years isn’t a total disaster is the jets fire Gase and Douglas this January Then they either promote Williams and hire a legit GM or McCarthy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, nyjets1969 said: Falk wouldnt be here Mcarthy would have gotten a decent QB just look at the packers when Roger's and Farve got hurt always got decent performance out of the backups just shows Gase is Kotite 2.0. The system sucks A decent 3rd string qb? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Only the Jets could screw up the first SB winning coach who actually WANTED to be here since Parcells and hire a Dolphins castoff with a losing record instead. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, kmnj said: so tired of this constant garbage-this guy has a losing record for his career-his offenses are bottom tier offenses -he has shown his actually not capable -and this team passed on a guy with a winning record and a ring- Name me all of the QB's that have started for him. Then we can continue our conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 McCarthy is so creative that Rodgers wanted him fired and no other team in the league wanted him to coach their teams. Team weren’t exactly lining up to hire Gase. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app24:25:31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Name me all of the QB's that have started for him. Then we can continue our conversation. If Kim Carnes is still alive, she should do a remake of "Bette Davis Eyes" called "Adam Gase's Eyes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Team weren’t exactly lining up to hire Gase. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 24:25:31 True but it's not like I loved the gase hire..I was ok with it. I just knew McCarthy sucked and certainly wouldn't do better with a QB with mono, a QB with a dangling foot and Luke Falk against the pats. If the Jets come out of the bye healthy and finish 3-13 anyway then it's fair to question the hire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 2:39 PM, rammagen said: But Gase is an offensive guru, he has not shown any game planning ability and every team has injuries period, we are not even talking about winning we are talking about trying and this Offense has not shown up in 3 weeks but Gase is Genius because he has failed himself into jobs, Loosing coach Miami it as his qb here now they are saying injuries, next yr what will it be? At some point you need to score at some points you need to show some fight, at some point the coach needs to show up and coach to win the fing game How many teams are starting a 3rd string QB who was just on the PS last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 9:11 PM, nico002 said: We would be 0-3 with McCarthy Exactly if McCarthy couldn't win with Rodgers WTF would he do with Luke Falk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 9:56 PM, Lot K Tailgaters said: He would have made sure we had an OL Really , I remember Rodgers running for his life for a few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 16 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: How many teams are starting a 3rd string QB who was just on the PS last week. no offense but another excuse, some of those other qbs have less time in their respective systems. In Zcolledge Faulk was a down the field passer why no roll outs or moving the pocket to try to play to his strengths. If the oline is bad,why no innovation or at least trying something because what you have is not working. when your defense and special teams outscore you offense and your offense has put up 11 points it is embarrassing and he is not doing his job. You cant defend the performance the offense has giving. And that is on the coach and players coaches put players into positions to succeed ask yourself has gase done that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Name me all of the QB's that have started for him. Then we can continue our conversation. well you know there is google https://www.ganggreennation.com/2019/1/10/18176952/looking-at-adam-gases-history-with-quarterbacks-new-york-jets-head-coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, rammagen said: no offense but another excuse, some of those other qbs have less time in their respective systems. In Zcolledge Faulk was a down the field passer why no roll outs or moving the pocket to try to play to his strengths. If the oline is bad,why no innovation or at least trying something because what you have is not working. when your defense and special teams outscore you offense and your offense has put up 11 points it is embarrassing and he is not doing his job. You cant defend the performance the offense has giving. And that is on the coach and players coaches put players into positions to succeed ask yourself has gase done that? Yes the offense has been putrid, but take it in context of 3 games played. All 3 D's are probably top 10 and maybe top 5. The Jets played 2 whole games with backup QB's . The Oline has been a disaster. Sure I would have loved to see the Jets attempting to throw downfield more against the Pats , realistically it may have resulted in us seeing Fales as Falk would have been buried. Let's get Sam and some player's back before we judge this all objectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, rammagen said: well you know there is google https://www.ganggreennation.com/2019/1/10/18176952/looking-at-adam-gases-history-with-quarterbacks-new-york-jets-head-coach Thanks Captain Obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 2:09 PM, JustEndTheSuffering said: Why Gase? McCarthy is a proven winner that wanted to work with Darnold but nope Gase was our guy I guess. Unbelievable. Proven winner? He was fortunate enough to take over a sailing ship that went from one franchise QB to another. He screwed it up over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: Proven winner? He was fortunate enough to take over a sailing ship that went from one franchise QB to another. He screwed it up over time. When you win a super bowl you’re a proven winner. He didn’t screw it up Rodgers did. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 16 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Thanks Captain Obvious. Anytime I was going to list the people he coached but why when you can look it up yourself. And you can see he has not had great success as a head coach and the three times he had success as a coordinator was with Kitna, Manning, and Tebow, but he did not do a great job with Tebow as he then bounced to two teams and out of the league. The other qbs he worked with and had success with were vets so did he make them or did they make him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: When you win a super bowl you’re a proven winner. He didn’t screw it up Rodgers did. This is my point there is enough blame in Greenbay to go around. everyone is blaming the coach only and giving our coach a pass which is not fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 20 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Yes the offense has been putrid, but take it in context of 3 games played. All 3 D's are probably top 10 and maybe top 5. The Jets played 2 whole games with backup QB's . The Oline has been a disaster. Sure I would have loved to see the Jets attempting to throw downfield more against the Pats , realistically it may have resulted in us seeing Fales as Falk would have been buried. Let's get Sam and some player's back before we judge this all objectively. but this is not just throwing downfield but moving the pocket or even attempting to adjust to cover up issues. We have seen none of that. You can blame injuries but every team has them and needs to overcome them. for an offensive guru we have not seen anything yet and from his time in Miami he went from one winning season to 2 losing seasons. So you need to take everything in from last yr and this yr so it is not just 3 games imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I’m sure McCarthy is dying to come here after gase gets 3 games with a crap offense lolololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, rammagen said: but this is not just throwing downfield but moving the pocket or even attempting to adjust to cover up issues. We have seen none of that. You can blame injuries but every team has them and needs to overcome them. for an offensive guru we have not seen anything yet and from his time in Miami he went from one winning season to 2 losing seasons. So you need to take everything in from last yr and this yr so it is not just 3 games imho Pats stacked the box ,took away the run, generated more than ample pressure w/o blitzing - what was the counter move Gase could have gone with. No time to throw deep , the middle of the field was all gummed up and Falk was never considered an overly mobile QB, Like I said previously the Pats and Belicheck were probably the worst opponent we could have faced given the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 10:15 AM, Philc1 said: Only way the next 3 years isn’t a total disaster is the jets fire Gase and Douglas this January Then they either promote Williams and hire a legit GM or McCarthy In your opinion, would the Johnson Bros EVER make a move which actually makes sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: When you win a super bowl you’re a proven winner. He didn’t screw it up Rodgers did. Oh, were you hanging out in the locker room? Management seemed to think the problem wasn't Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustEndTheSuffering Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: Oh, were you hanging out in the locker room? Management seemed to think the problem wasn't Rodgers. We’re you hanging out in the front office where they were bad mouthing Mike? We could go back and forth on this all day, the point is that McCarthy was a much better option than gase. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 2:22 PM, jgb said: Only the Jets could screw up the first SB winning coach who actually WANTED to be here since Parcells and hire a Dolphins castoff with a losing record instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 19 hours ago, DonCorleone said: In your opinion, would the Johnson Bros EVER make a move which actually makes sense? No they are both trust fund babies in way over their heads They are too stupid to hire a McCarthy or Jim Harbaugh when he becomes available this offseason. They passed on both Doug Marrone and Frank Reich who both wanted to come here in 2015. Tom Coughlin in 2016 was looking to become a Czar of football operations somewhere and could have stayed here in NY with his family they said no thanks we will stick with this Macagnan guy we like that he drafted Hackenberg inround 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, Philc1 said: No they are both trust fund babies in way over their heads They are too stupid to hire a McCarthy or Jim Harbaugh when he becomes available this offseason. They passed on both Doug Marrone and Frank Reich who both wanted to come here in 2015. Tom Coughlin in 2016 was looking to become a Czar of football operations somewhere and could have stayed here in NY with his family they said no thanks we will stick with this Macagnan guy we like that he drafted Hackenberg inround 2 Not to mention his other gem "Polite" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: We’re you hanging out in the front office where they were bad mouthing Mike? We could go back and forth on this all day, the point is that McCarthy was a much better option than gase. I think there was enough blame to go around one reason they did not part company with Rodgers is because of the cap hit. why take the hit when you can change staff without taking a cap hit? I agree McCarthy was a better choice because he has a record of developing young qbs successfully which Gase does not. Look at his young qbs Tannehill, Tebow, who else is there? one is a ack up and the other is out of the league. Manning made Gase not the other way around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 21 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Pats stacked the box ,took away the run, generated more than ample pressure w/o blitzing - what was the counter move Gase could have gone with. No time to throw deep , the middle of the field was all gummed up and Falk was never considered an overly mobile QB, Like I said previously the Pats and Belicheck were probably the worst opponent we could have faced given the circumstances. this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets. Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, rammagen said: this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets. Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them. Game 1 sick Darnold , Game2 Trevor Seimien , Game3 Luke Falk . Let's see a full gameplan with a healthy starting QB. I know many here expected immediate success with Gase as HC - Let's see how this evolves before we over-react . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, DonCorleone said: Not to mention his other gem "Polite" 95% of Mac’s draft picks stunk Devin Smith where art thou?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, rammagen said: this is not just one game why was this not done against the browns/ How about those bills? the only thing Gase got right recently was his game plan last yr against the Jets. Why not use more blockers the tight end or a fullback? they might have done that but this is on Gase no matter what way you try to spin this. Yes the opponent did certain things, but it is his job to counter act them. We killed Bowles for never making defensive adjustments Only fair to kill Gase for making zero offensive adjustments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Game 1 sick Darnold , Game2 Trevor Seimien , Game3 Luke Falk . Let's see a full gameplan with a healthy starting QB. I know many here expected immediate success with Gase as HC - Let's see how this evolves before we over-react . Game 1 poor play calling no roll out, no rb scree, no adjustment at the LOS that almost got our franchised QB killed game 2 Got our back up QB killed game 3 called for 3 yards pass on 3rd and 15. ENOUGH SAID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: 95% of Mac’s draft picks stunk Devin Smith where art thou?!? What a couple. Mac and Idzik. Why us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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