David Harris Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 It’s the players. No scheme is going to work when your talent is this poor. Offensive line is Swiss cheese. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Jeremy Bates offense > Adam Gase offense FACTS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: 16-0 with 3:50 to go in the 3rd and they lost. QB had mono. I give up. Gase is a freaking offensive God. What was I thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 It’s funny remembering how people were saying this WR group was good enough to win games....Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Bart Scott nailed on the post game show when he said it's alarming how Gase literally pointed the finger at just about everyone on offense but himself during his post game press conference. He said that the HC should be smart enough to take the bullets himself and let the reporters and analysts point out who has performed poorly. This is how a HC loses the locker room. He also said that Gase has tried to implement his offensive schemes and game plans instead of catering the scheme to the offensive personnel in the building. Why isn't Bart Scott our head coach?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: 16-0 with 3:50 to go in the 3rd and they lost. QB had mono. That loss was 100% on the offense....or should I say lack of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: Bart Scott nailed on the post game show when he said it's alarming how Gase literally pointed the finger at just about everyone on offense but himself during his post game press conference. He said that the HC should be smart enough to take the bullets himself and let the reporters and analysts point out who has performed poorly. This is how a HC loses the locker room. He also said that Gase has tried to implement his offensive schemes and game plans instead of catering the scheme to the offensive personnel in the building. Why isn't Bart Scott our head coach?? Bart Scott is an a$$hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, RobR said: That loss was 100% on the offense....or should I say lack of. And if Greg Williams was the head coach the offense would be better of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, BROOKLYN JET said: And if Greg Williams was the head coach the offense would be better of course. I'm not calling for Gases head and I didn't read the whole thread before I posted. Too answer your question....How could it be worse? I don't care what QB we are using. We've scored ONE offensive TD after three games. There has to be some precedent there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, RobR said: I'm not calling for Gases head and I didn't read the whole thread before I posted. Too answer your question....How could it be worse? I don't care what QB we are using. We've scored ONE offensive TD after three games. There has to be some precedent there. 3 QBs in 3 weeks, 1 had mono, 1 got crippled, 1 made his 1st start ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Gase has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, BROOKLYN JET said: 3 QBs in 3 weeks, 1 had mono, 1 got crippled, 1 made his 1st start ever. You think Gase’s playcalling has been good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BROOKLYN JET said: 3 QBs in 3 weeks, 1 had mono, 1 got crippled, 1 made his 1st start ever. 1 offensive Td Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The talent level on offense isn’t where it needs to be to field a competitive team. It wasn’t before the season started and it isn’t now. Need better players, it’s very simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: And if Greg Williams was the head coach the offense would be better of course. Would it be worse? Is that even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, sec101row23 said: The talent level on offense isn’t where it needs to be to field a competitive team. It wasn’t before the season started and it isn’t now. Need better players, it’s very simple. It’s not just lack of talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: It’s not just lack of talent Yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Would it be worse? Is that even possible? No reason to believe it would be any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: SUICIDE > defense > special teams > offense points scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Yes it is. Simien looked totally unprepared last week, playcalling sucks, bad game management decisions and he probably forced the DT trade and probably was the decision maker for Vedvik but yeah Gase is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: No reason to believe it would be any better. Call me when we score a second offensive touchdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: No reason to believe it would be any better. Are you Adam Gase's mother or something? I mean do you seriously want this guy anywhere near Darnold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 16 hours ago, Philc1 said: Simien looked totally unprepared last week, playcalling sucks, bad game management decisions and he probably forced the DT trade but yeah Gase is awesome You are a borderline $%#^&%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Call me when we score a second offensive touchdown Talk to ya next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, More Cowbell said: Are you Adam Gase's mother or something? I mean do you seriously want this guy anywhere near Darnold? Greg Williams, he will fix everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Yes it is. It's deeper than that right now. We all knew we didn't have a good Oline but it's near impossible they are this bad. We allow free rushers from the outside multiple times a game. Is that on the players or scheme? I think a bit of both but you have to at the very least get a hat on the defenders. We can't even do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 16 hours ago, sec101row23 said: You are a borderline @#$%^. Yes it’s retarded to point something obvious that Gase is a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, RobR said: It's deeper than that right now. We all knew we didn't have a good Oline but it's near impossible they are this bad. We allow free rushers from the outside multiple times a game. Is that on the players or scheme? I think a bit of both but you have to at the very least get a hat on the defenders. We can't even do that. Siemian was beyond unprepared last week I’m trying to figure out what Gase actually does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 16 hours ago, sec101row23 said: You are a borderline #$%^%$. Borderline? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: Greg Williams, he will fix everything. You didn't answer my question. Do you want Gase mentoring Darnold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, More Cowbell said: You didn't answer my question. Do you want Gase mentoring Darnold? No, I want new coaches for Darnold every 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobR said: It's deeper than that right now. We all knew we didn't have a good Oline but it's near impossible they are this bad. We allow free rushers from the outside multiple times a game. Is that on the players or scheme? I think a bit of both but you have to at the very least get a hat on the defenders. We can't even do that. There just isn’t a lot of options, I’m not saying Gase is awesome, but you can’t go max protect every play and expect two of these receivers to get open. There’s nothing here, the tackles are getting whipped in one on one match ups. It’s just a offensive roster void of any real weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said: No, I want new coaches for Darnold every 3 weeks. So it's better to keep an incompetent HC than making a change because being consistently bad at your job is better than trying to change that. Do you actually think before you post something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsyrup Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Pac said: Bart just eluded to it on the post game but the zone blocking scheme is CLEARLY not putting the players in the best position to succeed. They better use this bye week to completely revamp what their doing with this o-line or it can really be a 1 and done for Gase which I would have thought unfathomable a couple hours ago. Gase has never shown an ability to change his blocking scheme regardless of how bad a fit the players he has are for it. Doubt he starts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: There just isn’t a lot of options, I’m not saying Gase is awesome, but you can’t go max protect every play and expect two of these receivers to get open. There’s nothing here, the tackles are getting whipped in one on one match ups. It’s just a offensive roster void of any real weapons. My point is we're letting guys coming in unblocked all of the time. As bad as this Oline is that reflects on the offensive play calling and scheme. If we get a hat on them and end up getting beat...so be it. We can't even do that and that runs deeper than the talent pool that Gase has to work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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