Charlie Brown Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Barton said: What i'm saying is, Gase is not coaching to the types of players he has on offense. Nobody on the Jets offensive line, aside from Kalil, who was surfing 2 months ago, is built for a zone blocking scheme. These guys are not nimble, cant pull or go to the 2nd level. Lets keep it simple...... Bates is better than Gase so far as an offensive coordinator for the Jets and that is saying something!! And no Bates didn't have more to work with! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 #toldtya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 With The Jags having a QB like Minshew winning games there is no excuse to see this offense play this bad it comes down to the system and Gase sucks period. Personally I see him gone after this year the media will run him out of town if Douglas doesnt get to fire him first. I dont believe the Jets figured Douglas would take the Job they committed 6 years at 3 million a year for him this guy is the #1 GM prospect has a all star staff working with him think Gase will be cut lose if he goes 0-16 and right now having Sam Darnold would not fix this offense the blocking scheme sucks and it falls on Gase this offensive line is bad but not terrible enough to be like this Gase has very little time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Mogglez said: Like who? I keep hearing about all of these QBs on the level of Falk,. WRs on our level and yet there are no names. Just "all these teams". Kyle Allen lit it up for the Panthers yesterday. Having seen him play at Texas A&M I can assure you, he sucked in college. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Amazing how all these other head coaches can either win or at least be competitive with backup QBs this year but Gase scores one offensive td in 3 games oh he’s the good one! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: There are QBs I’ve never heard of or are playing their first game this week for teams having success, but our QB whisperer has one of the worst offenses in the league with no signs of improvement week to week. Friggin Garret Minshew a rookie 6th round pick is looking good and winning games will put up a 30 spot on us in a a few weeks These Gase apologists will be in witness protection in about 5 weeks when we are 0-7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Gase is not good up until this point and nothing he's done is positive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 hours ago, nyjets1969 said: With The Jags having a QB like Minshew winning games there is no excuse to see this offense play this bad it comes down to the system and Gase sucks period. Personally I see him gone after this year the media will run him out of town if Douglas doesnt get to fire him first. I dont believe the Jets figured Douglas would take the Job they committed 6 years at 3 million a year for him this guy is the #1 GM prospect has a all star staff working with him think Gase will be cut lose if he goes 0-16 and right now having Sam Darnold would not fix this offense the blocking scheme sucks and it falls on Gase this offensive line is bad but not terrible enough to be like this Gase has very little time. The Johnsons are so weak and dumb I doubt they fire Gase even if he goes 1-15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Kyle Allen lit it up for the Panthers yesterday. Having seen him play at Texas A&M I can assure you, he sucked in college. Again, going into the game, he had a career rating of 113.1 and two very qaulity games played already. I get that he's the hot name because Sportscenter played his highlights all night but Allen proved he could play in the NFL last year. He also went against the Cardinals, who are, quite literally, the polar opposite of the defending Super Bowl champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Again, going into the game, he had a career rating of 113.1 and two very qaulity games played already. I get that he's the hot name because Sportscenter played his highlights all night but Allen proved he could play in the NFL last year. He also went against the Cardinals, who are, quite literally, the polar opposite of the defending Super Bowl champs. Excuses excuses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 With our last two head coaches, I think everyone this year wanted a head coach with with actual HC experience. This is why everyone wanted McCarthy and most of us were on board when Gase was hired after a week or two. We are finding out that's not the way to go. We needed a fresh mind with offensive experience no matter at what level to come in, have a fresh take on today's NFL and be creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Amazing how all these other head coaches can either win or at least be competitive with backup QBs this year but Gase scores one offensive td in 3 games oh he’s the good one! With all due respect Luke Falk sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Excuses excuses They aren't excuses. They're tangible pieces of evidence. You can look the numbers up yourself if you want. I've already said multiple times that if we still look this bad with Darnold, against the softer part of our schedule, then the conversation can be had in regards to where to go from here at Head Coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Beerfish said: All you have to do is look around the NFL and see all of the backups thrust into starting rolls that are looking semi competent. Luke Falk is not a backup. He is an afterthought.No TE, starting wideout gone for the season--- who was not much anyway, and a major league QB. Plus an O that gase did not sign or coach playing Keystone Kops. Learn how to spread the responsibility around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: With all due respect Luke Falk sucks. And so does Gase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The Johnsons are so weak and dumb I doubt they fire Gase even if he goes 1-15 Gase is not going 1-16---unless Sam is out for the season. Herndon will be back, Mosley will be back, and Q wiil be disruptive. They could use a good wideout, though. Never should have resigned Enunwa when they did. I said it then. Dont sign injury guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Todd Gase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Gase has coached 3 full season in the nfl and every year he had to play the backup qb. He should be smart enough by now to know how important that position is. If he doesnt invest a 3rd or 4th round pick into the position next year then there is no help for the guy. Hes just clueless, stubborn whatever you want to call it. Backup qb is one of the most important positions to fill in the draft next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: They aren't excuses. They're tangible pieces of evidence. You can look the numbers up yourself if you want. I've already said multiple times that if we still look this bad with Darnold, against the softer part of our schedule, than the conversation can be had in regards to where to go from here at Head Coach. Gase is a disaster. Douglas is his puppet they signed Vedvik which literally cost us week 1, signed Kalil when we already had a competent C and Kalil has been an abomination, traded a pick to Belichick for a WR who is officially done, playcalling has sucked, game management has sucked, Simian looked unprepared, Gase loves 5 step drop backs with qb under center despite Kalil not being able to block anyone ever, players hate him, Williams hates him But yeah you’re right Adam Gase is doing a great job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, jack48 said: Gase is not going 1-16---unless Sam is out for the season. Herndon will be back, Mosley will be back, and Q wiil be disruptive. They could use a good wideout, though. Never should have resigned Enunwa when they did. I said it then. Dont sign injury guys Honestly I think we are headed to 2-14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Gase has coached 3 full season in the nfl and every year he had to play the backup qb. He should be smart enough by now to know how important that position is. If he doesnt invest a 3rd or 4th round pick into the position next year then there is no help for the guy. Hes just clueless, stubborn whatever you want to call it. Backup qb is one of the most important positions to fill in the draft next year. Agree but we always seem to choose off the garbage pile......Luke Falk if not on the NY Jets not in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Todd Gase Can we get Bowles back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: Gase has coached 3 full season in the nfl and every year he had to play the backup qb. He should be smart enough by now to know how important that position is. If he doesnt invest a 3rd or 4th round pick into the position next year then there is no help for the guy. Hes just clueless, stubborn whatever you want to call it. Backup qb is one of the most important positions to fill in the draft next year. It was obvious he didn’t put the work in with Trevor Simian. He was too busy throwing Mac under the bus the entire summer to coach his qbs not named Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Gase is a disaster. Douglas is his puppet they signed Vedvik which literally cost us week 1, signed Kalil when we already had a competent C and Kalil has been an abomination, traded a pick to Belichick for a WR who is officially done, playcalling has sucked, game management has sucked, Simian looked unprepared, Gase loves 5 step drop backs with qb under center despite Kalil not being able to block anyone ever, players hate him, Williams hates him But yeah you’re right Adam Gase is doing a great job Dont argue with the delusional homer club. The DHC are so clueless its laughable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Can we get Bowles back? Noooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Dont argue with the delusional homer club. The DHC are so clueless its laughable. These are the same guys who defended Hackenberg when he was wearing pajamas on the sidelines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Agree but we always seem to choose off the garbage pile......Luke Falk if not on the NY Jets not in the NFL. Take a gardner minshew, take a kyle allen, a kirk cousins etc. we can get a good qb in the 3rd or 4th round. And a little competition for darnold wont hurt either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: These are the same guys who defended Hackenberg when he was wearing pajamas on the sidelines ......and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Todd Bowles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: Take a gardner minshew, take a kyle allen, a kirk cousins etc. we can get a good qb in the 3rd or 4th round. And a little competition for darnold wont hurt either. You can but we can't even get the 1st round #3 pick right and you expect this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: You can but we can't even get the 1st round #3 pick right and you expect this. Hahahahahahaha. Oh the pain!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: ......and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Todd Bowles. Again I think the Gase white knighting will finally end when we are 0-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Gase is a disaster. Douglas is his puppet they signed Vedvik which literally cost us week 1, signed Kalil when we already had a competent C and Kalil has been an abomination, traded a pick to Belichick for a WR who is officially done, playcalling has sucked, game management has sucked, Simian looked unprepared, Gase loves 5 step drop backs with qb under center despite Kalil not being able to block anyone ever, players hate him, Williams hates him But yeah you’re right Adam Gase is doing a great job If you got out of that post that I said Gase was doing a great job, then you need to take some reading comprehension classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I haven't seen much with Gase. BUT.... Luke Falk is not a "backup" QB. He's the backup to the backup. Offensive genius or not, the OL is the worst in football. And most posters criticizing Gase don't accept that the OL cannot run or pass block. I'm not sure that's all on Gase. We lost the defending Super Bowl champs on their home field. Not unexpected All of that said, I've seen the same stinking offense from the Jets for a decade. It's very old seeing a professional team look so overwhelmed most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Dont argue with the delusional homer club. The DHC are so clueless its laughable. More irony from the Village Idiot. Don't worry, you guys got each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 There is nothing positive to say about Gase in all of this, but rather simply a list of excuses of why it's not his fault, which is really what his entire career has been with the sole exception of the couple of years he got to be the lucky guy credited as the OC for a Peyton Manning offense. For all the citing of lack of talent on the Jets' offense, that is also nothing even slightly new for the Jets, as that has been the case for very many years, and yet Gase is still doing even worse with this offense than his all-world predecessors, including the immortal likes of Bates, Morton, Gailey, Mornhinweg, and Schitty. Not to mention, for all the flack Bowles got for player performance of a crap roster, I can't think of a single player who's not currently performing even worse under Gase. The current situation is far from ideal, I will certainly concede to that, but there's still nothing yet seen to be even slightly pleased about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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