Vudu Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Why is this psycho always blaming everyone else?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsyrup Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Was this some sort of sudden thing? Were they running everything right all pre-season long and in practice, but come game time they can't do it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Why don’t they know their assignments? Does he bear any responsibility here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 He is an OC not a HC. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I just watched a game yesterday, in person, with the same circumstances. Florida vs. Tennessee. Vols QBs were terrible. Their O-Line is terrible. Talent gap. Vols offense was forced mostly to bubble screen. The Gators blew them out. I believe Adam Gase can sort this out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: What is a 1000 yard receiver worth and are those "solid" teams going to offer the Jets that? Because I think the Jets would take 1000 yard receiver value for Robbie Anderson. No idea what it worth but I’d rather have him on the Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 Some facts: 1. It's the worst roster in football. 2. It's the worst QB room in football. 3. Maccagnan was in charge of the roster up through late May. None of these facts mean that Adam Gase isn't a bad coach, but they all add up to mean that you don't know if Gase is bad. Can you reactionary turds give Gase one (1) offseason to get some players he actually likes before we assume he's the reason the team has been garbage for the past five years? 8 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, usapaw said: He is an OC not a HC. Who would want this guy as an OC though? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: Some facts: 1. It's the worst roster in football. 2. It's the worst QB room in football. 3. Maccagnan was in charge of the roster up through late May. None of these facts mean that Adam Gase isn't a bad coach, but they all add up to mean that you don't know if Gase is bad. Can you reactionary turds give Gase one (1) offseason to get some players he actually likes before we assume he's the reason the team has been garbage for the past five years? I'm just gonna get the bump out of the way now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Some facts: 1. It's the worst roster in football. 2. It's the worst QB room in football. 3. Maccagnan was in charge of the roster up through late May. None of these facts mean that Adam Gase isn't a bad coach, but they all add up to mean that you don't know if Gase is bad. Can you reactionary turds give Gase one (1) offseason to get some players he actually likes before we assume he's the reason the team has been garbage for the past five years? At minimum these players should know their assignments. Is that too much to ekspect? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Some facts: 1. It's the worst roster in football. 2. It's the worst QB room in football. 3. Maccagnan was in charge of the roster up through late May. None of these facts mean that Adam Gase isn't a bad coach, but they all add up to mean that you don't know if Gase is bad. Can you reactionary turds give Gase one (1) offseason to get some players he actually likes before we assume he's the reason the team has been garbage for the past five years? You mean like how he got worse each season in Miami where he had the majority of the roster control? Or are we just ignoring that? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I mean, ok. Fair enough. Let's bench Robbie Anderson and play....Deontay Burnett? Can we bench Gase instead and play Bell and Montgomery at the same time and use different formations and spread them out as WRs instead of running up the middle and draw plays the whole game? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsyrup Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Some facts: 1. It's the worst roster in football. 2. It's the worst QB room in football. 3. Maccagnan was in charge of the roster up through late May. None of these facts mean that Adam Gase isn't a bad coach, but they all add up to mean that you don't know if Gase is bad. Can you reactionary turds give Gase one (1) offseason to get some players he actually likes before we assume he's the reason the team has been garbage for the past five years? Yea, we still don't know that Geno was bad either. Gotta see him with weaponz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Who would want this guy as an OC though? It looks like Marty ball 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I'm just gonna get the bump out of the way now. It’s a little early for that isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetsyrup Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Who would want this guy as an OC though? Peyton Manning. Said it was the best cup of coffee he ever had, 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, bgivs21 said: Sorry bro but he has not adjusted to anything. The same things keep happening week after week on the offense and he hasn't adjusted at all. And you're a jackass for calling people idiots because we have different opinions. Only an idiot would ignore the fact that we haven’t had an NFL quarterback under center in any of our first 3 games. You act like QB hasn’t been a problem. “Adjustments” aren’t possible when 3 of the top defenses in the NFL put 11 in the box because they know you don’t have a quarterback. SAR I 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, SAR I said: It's called ACCOUNTABILITY. Ryan: "These guys are great, they are the best, it's not their fault." Bowles: "It's on me, I have to do a better job." Gase: "There are players who have been here long enough, they know the offense, and they are missing their assignments." You don't get an ACCOUNTABLE locker room by taking the blame yourself. No successful business leader takes the blame because a subordinate blew his assignment. SAR I EVERY successful leader takes the blame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: Only an idiot would ignore the fact that we haven’t had an NFL quarterback under center in any of our first 3 games. You act like QB hasn’t been a problem. “Adjustments” aren’t possible when 3 of the top defenses in the NFL put 11 in the box because they know you don’t have a quarterback. SAR I Jags are winning with a porn star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: EVERY successful leader takes the blame. Correct. You deal with those issues inside, not outside. Cut players, bench players, but stop the buck on the podium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BettyBoop said: EVERY successful leader takes the blame. WRONG. Absolutely WRONG. Every successful leader builds a team good enough to know when they themselves are to blame and expects them to be accountable for their own mistakes. This boilerplate coachspeak "It's on me I need to do a better job..." the likes of Wilkerson and Richardson took that literally, "it's not my fault, my coach said its his fault" and they smoked weed and spread an awful, lazy, weak culture. Gase is 100% right to hold players accountable if he knows that they know the playbook and aren't executing the plays properly. If Robbie Anderson runs 5 yards and turns sharp right when the play calls for him to run 10 yards and slant left, that's not on Gase. That's on the player. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Jonathonn Harrison and he cut all the bad TEs. What other offensive studs would you like benched and who replaces them? Khalil seems to have been a GM addition, but has been bad since arriving and he's been a week 1 starter so there's not been a change at Center under Gase. He cut all the bad TE's, who did he pick up who was better? There are no offensive studs on this team outside of Bell, which means that anyone can be replaced if Gases excuse is that they dont even know what they're doing on the field. 1 hour ago, Bugg said: So you're going to play who over these guys? Anderson is a 3rd WR, Herndon's suspended until week 5, The OL is from hunger. Pats were getting to Falk with 3 rushing. Would wager this OL is going to grade out as the worst in the entire NFL this week. Gase can start by getting people who know what the play is supposed to be. Im not with all the excuses. 3 years from now when he's fired 2 years past his welcome, folks will be saying the exact same thing. He is an offensive minded coach yet the offense arguably looks worse than when Bowles was here, and that's with Bell and Crowder on the team. And I know I will immediately hear about Darnold having mono, but he looked like crap in week 1, partially because the playcalling looked like crap. It's one thing when you claim lack of talent, it's another thing when reports are circulating that Gase and other coaches arent even speaking, no one on offense knows what their assignment is supposed to be, and all I can think back to is how he argued with coaches and ownership in Miami and offensive players publicly stated that they wanted to be traded if Gase returned while former dolphins already shipped out to other teams gave ovations when he was let go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pac said: I'm not currently the biggest Gase fan but he started the press conference by saying the D and ST played very well and the O was atrocious. You don't think by calling the O atrocious he's not shouldering the blame for it? He didn't single any players or even a position group out. There's nothing wrong with saying they played like sh-t if they played like sh-t. That hasn't been done enough the last 10 years. What will lead to his demise is if he stubbornly sticks to the schemes he's running which clearly aren't working and doesn't display any kind of flexibility. Whatever he is doing with the O-line should be scrapped henceforth and he should truly live up to his word of trying to put players in the best position to succeed. A good coach would not have this O-line looking like fools. If Belichek had this O Line, he would be able to coach them into being competent. The coaches have to shake things up and hold people accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, SAR I said: WRONG. Absolutely WRONG. Every successful leader builds a team good enough to know when they themselves are to blame and expects them to be accountable for their own mistakes. This boilerplate coachspeak "It's on me I need to do a better job..." the likes of Wilkerson and Richardson took that literally, "it's not my fault, my coach said its his fault" and they smoked weed and spread an awful, lazy, weak culture. Gase is 100% right to hold players accountable if he knows that they know the playbook and aren't executing the plays properly. If Robbie Anderson runs 5 yards and turns sharp right when the play calls for him to run 10 yards and slant left, that's not on Gase. That's on the player. SAR I Hey man, leave the weed out of this. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, usapaw said: Correct. You deal with those issues inside, not outside. Cut players, bench players, but stop the buck on the podium. Yeah, maybe in 1980 when there were nothing but newspapers. Nothing makes a player stand up and take accountability in the social media world than being called out properly in all aspects of communication. In the locker, in meetings, and in the press. Damned right Gase shouldn't take a hit because a WR or a TE didn't execute the play he is paid to memorize. Maybe the next time a player doesn't study the playbook the night before the game because he's on Snapchat he'll think twice because of the callouts this coach is making on a weekly basis. Tell me that Adams didn't play better today because he was called out last week. Leave the coach alone. The QB situation is a joke that Vince Lombardi himself couldn't salvage. Darnold comes back in two weeks, things will improve. Judge Gase at that time. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Continue to be disappointed with offensive play calls & personnel packagesSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Gase should have never been hired in the 1st place. It hardly ever works out when a HC is fired from one team and goes directly to another. Sure there are some exceptions but 9 times out of 10 its a disaster. So far it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: Yeah, maybe in 1980 when there were nothing but newspapers. Nothing makes a player stand up and take accountability in the social media world than being called out properly in all aspects of communication. In the locker, in meetings, and in the press. Damned right Gase shouldn't take a hit because a WR or a TE didn't execute the play he is paid to memorize. Leave the coach alone. The QB situation is a joke that Vince Lombardi himself couldn't salvage. SAR I Can't agree with your scapegoat management style. Be a man and handle the press on the podium, then handle the players in private. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: There are no defensive studs on this team outside of Bell, which means that anyone can be replaced if Gases excuse is that they dont even know what they're doing on the field. Cool cool. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, JetFaninMI said: Gase should have never been hired in the 1st place. It hardly ever works out when a HC is fired from one team and goes directly to another. Sure there are some exceptions but 9 times out of 10 its a disaster. So far it is. Mononucleousis Semen Falk Yeah, let's judge Adam Gase on that pile of steaming QB horses-it. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Ownership sucks and all this bullsh*t stems from it. The new uniforms suck too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, bgivs21 said: Watching the giants game (I know it's just the bucs) but they have engram and Sheppard open in the field on a ton of plays. Our WRs cant even get open for the QB. Is it the scheme, the player himself? I have to believe it's the scheme because Robby has shown he can get open Anderson could get open last year, Crowder has had quality years in Washington. I don't think the players are incapable of getting open. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: You mean like how he got worse each season in Miami where he had the majority of the roster control? Or are we just ignoring that? I’ll bet Adam Gase and Chris Grier and Mike Tannenbaum would find it very interesting to learn that he had roster control in Miami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: Mononucleousis Semen Falk Yeah, let's judge Adam Gase on that pile of steaming QB horses-it. SAR I Who wanted those two QB's? They were his guys.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, usapaw said: Can't agree with your scapegoat management style. Be a man and handle the press on the podium, then handle the players in private. Respectfully, the Jets tried that tactic for the last 10 years and all it did was produce a culture so poisonous that we had to get rid of a lot of talent and rebuild to clear it all out. Calm discussions in private meetings doesn't mean 'accountability'. Knowing your coach is going to out you in the national media and that subsequently you are going to get trolled hard on Twitter, hmm, that seems to be working. Look at Jamal Adams' last 6 days. He seems to have responded. I like this approach. I think the old way was a cop out. Why should Adam Gase and his wife be humiliated because Robbie Anderson didn't study this week? Did your college teachers turn your F's into A's because it was their fault you didn't study for a midterm? Does your boss apologize on your behalf and give you a raise for missing your numbers every year? SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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