No One's Saying Fire Gase Now; Competent HC/Regimes

[joewilly12]

19 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The four biggest villains among the Jets fan base over the past thirty years are Parcells, Mangini, Idzik, and Gase, but guys like Herm, Rex, Tannenbaum, and Maccagnan generally get a pass. The reason why is simple: it’s because you’re morons who want to lose because you enjoy the chaos and the ensuing whining. You’re like people who live in trash neighborhoods who complain constantly about the crackheads on the corner, but when someone tries to open a Starbucks on that same corner, you lose your minds and start screaming about the evils of gentrification. The Jets organization needs an enema and guys like Parcells and Mangini and Gase and—yes—even Idzik saw this, they attempted to wipe clean the filth, and you people wept and cried and tweeted and RTed Manish and paid for billboards and planes to drive these guys out. It’s your fault you lose. And in losing, you’ve won. Because you’re losers. Shut up and let the smart people fix the problems for you. Note that these problems have existed for half a century and they’re going to take more than three games to clean up. It could take a while—GASP—!!!rebuild!!! to remedy. I know you’re upset that the Jets won’t win nine games in his first year like Rex did, nor will they win ten like Todd Bowles and Eric Mangini and Herm did in their first years, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles friends. You take over a bad team, you endure a few bad seasons, you try to put together some productive offseasons and ***then*** you have a chance to be good. You don’t get good because Supercoach Wonderman walks in and flips a switch. Gandalf ain’t coming through that door. So shut up and deal with it. Hope that Darnold gets better. Hope that Quinnen Williams isn’t a bust. Stop hoping for Gase to wave a magic ******* wand and turn Luke Falk into Tom Brady. That’s not how coaching works, you clowns. You losers. You frauds. Shut up.

Somebody found a half empty bottle of MD 2020 and a warm 40oz bottle of Colt 45 (it looked like beer) in the alley this afternoon. 

you clowns. You losers. You frauds. Shut up.

Someone needs a timeout. 

 

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Idzik got two years here. You’re trying to drive Gase out before October hits. You’re delusional 

How many of Idziks draft picks are still in the NFL?

[BallinPB]

2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Don't hire BB or Pete Carroll got it... 

Bad take... Just because they lost before doesn't determine future success... There have been many many HCs that fail the first time only to succeed later... Bad premise

Bill and Pete were very successful D coordinators however.  Their defenses were regularly in the top 10 for both the Giants and 49ers respectively.  Adam Gase had one good year with a top 5 QB of all time and his offensives were consistently in the bottom of the league as OC with the Bears and HC with Miami.  

The fact is he hasn't even shown he can be good at the side of the ball he's supposed to specialize in.  

[thebuzzardman]

Not Gase's fault. Darnold is just that bad. So I've been told by a few posters on here. Since they post thousands of times, they must know. 

[T0mShane]

15 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

How many of Idziks draft picks are still in the NFL?

Dee Milliner is out of the league. The guys drafted directly behind Dee Milliner were Chance Warmack, DJ Fluker, and DJ Hayden, who are all busts.

Sheldon Richardson is on the Browns. The guys drafted directly after him are Star Lotuleilei, EJ Manuel, Kenny Vaccaro, and Jarvis Jones, who were all busts.

Geno Smith is on the Seahawks. The guys drafted behind him were Tank Carradine, Robert Woods, Menelik Watson, and Jonathan Banks. Woods is a nice #3 receiver, but the rest were all busts.

Brian Winters has started every game for the Jets since he's been drafted. Taken behind him were Mike Glennon, Terrance Williams, and Terron Armstead. Armstead has been good. The other two sucked,

Oday Aboushi is on the Lions. Taken after him was Lavar Edwards, Jonathan Meeks, and Kenny Stills. Stills has been a solid #3/4 receiver but the other two sucked.  

 

So, of his first seven picks, four are still in the NFL. The seventh rounder that year, fullback Tommy Bohanon, was still playing last season. That's not a bad average. For reference, here is Ozzie Newsome's draft haul from 2013:

 

[JetFaninMI]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The four biggest villains among the Jets fan base over the past thirty years are Parcells, Mangini, Idzik, and Gase, but guys like Herm, Rex, Tannenbaum, and Maccagnan generally get a pass. The reason why is simple: it’s because you’re morons who want to lose because you enjoy the chaos and the ensuing whining. You’re like people who live in trash neighborhoods who complain constantly about the crackheads on the corner, but when someone tries to open a Starbucks on that same corner, you lose your minds and start screaming about the evils of gentrification. The Jets organization needs an enema and guys like Parcells and Mangini and Gase and—yes—even Idzik saw this, they attempted to wipe clean the filth, and you people wept and cried and tweeted and RTed Manish and paid for billboards and planes to drive these guys out. It’s your fault you lose. And in losing, you’ve won. Because you’re losers. Shut up and let the smart people fix the problems for you. Note that these problems have existed for half a century and they’re going to take more than three games to clean up. It could take a while—GASP—!!!rebuild!!! to remedy. I know you’re upset that the Jets won’t win nine games in his first year like Rex did, nor will they win ten like Todd Bowles and Eric Mangini and Herm did in their first years, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles friends. You take over a bad team, you endure a few bad seasons, you try to put together some productive offseasons and ***then*** you have a chance to be good. You don’t get good because Supercoach Wonderman walks in and flips a switch. Gandalf ain’t coming through that door. So shut up and deal with it. Hope that Darnold gets better. Hope that Quinnen Williams isn’t a bust. Stop hoping for Gase to wave a magic ******* wand and turn Luke Falk into Tom Brady. That’s not how coaching works, you clowns. You losers. You frauds. Shut up.

LOL. Tell us how you really feel.

Pretty true I gotta admit. The only thing I feel is that Gase was a bad hire to begin with. I have stated why time and again but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Gase does have some crappy luck losing Darnold and all the rest in the first few weeks of the season. 0-3 sucks. It truly does. You're going to get guys losing their minds over it. I don't want Gase fired but its easy to see why the knee-jerkers do. They're Jet Fans. That in and of itself should explain their thought process convoluted as it may be.

[Barry McCockinner]

24 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Dee Milliner is out of the league. The guys drafted directly behind Dee Milliner were Chance Warmack, DJ Fluker, and DJ Hayden, who are all busts.

Sheldon Richardson is on the Browns. The guys drafted directly after him are Star Lotuleilei, EJ Manuel, Kenny Vaccaro, and Jarvis Jones, who were all busts.

Geno Smith is on the Seahawks. The guys drafted behind him were Tank Carradine, Robert Woods, Menelik Watson, and Jonathan Banks. Woods is a nice #3 receiver, but the rest were all busts.

Brian Winters has started every game for the Jets since he's been drafted. Taken behind him were Mike Glennon, Terrance Williams, and Terron Armstead. Armstead has been good. The other two sucked,

Oday Aboushi is on the Lions. Taken after him was Lavar Edwards, Jonathan Meeks, and Kenny Stills. Stills has been a solid #3/4 receiver but the other two sucked.  

 

So, of his first seven picks, four are still in the NFL. The seventh rounder that year, fullback Tommy Bohanon, was still playing last season. That's not a bad average. For reference, here is Ozzie Newsome's draft haul from 2013:

 

And we're leaving out his second year because?

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

And we're leaving out his second year because?

I was going to do it and got bored. He had three picks in the fourth round and four picks in the sixth round. Pryor sucked. Amaro was soft. McDougle couldn't stay healthy. The only positive is that Jalen Saunders and Shaq Evans dominate in the CFL. But Idzik didn't get fired for that draft. He got fired because he released Santono Holmes, Antonio Cromartie, and Mark Sanchez in the span of two weeks and Rex, like a rat, ran to his buddy Manish to whine (anonymously, naturally) that Idzik had kneecapped him.