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1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Rex Ryan, QB whisperer

He wanted Russell Wilson but Woody Johnson wanted his hero Tim Tebow and Tanny drafted Stephen Hill over Wilson in round 2 instead

 

Great being a jets fan

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3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

F'n Stephen Hill. Every time I see his name I'm reminded of the douchey Jets fans that would talk down to you like you hadn't a clue if you didn't think he was about to be a beast.

Instead of Russell Wilson who Bradway and Rex both pounded the table for we get Tim Tebow and Stephen Hill

 

YUCK

 

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2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

He broke the rookie record for TD’s in 13 games last year. He definitely isn’t a scrub. He’s still going to be really good. I think the media should stop trying to keep up with who’s the new hot hand from the 2018 QB class and cement their names in before anything is final.

“It’s Baker, no it’s Jackson, no it’s Allen, no it’s Darnold.” 

Lol dumb stuff really. All of them are having ups and downs and it’s not ending right away. There’s some time and experience in between that needs to be had before we say anything.

Baker was a one read guy last year too he just faced a lot of soft defenses and padded his stats and then he sucked facing good defenses

 

Teams figured out how to stop him. Even the jets without CJ Mosely and crap DBs and an offense that was never on the field contained Mayfield 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

The only person I remember “pushing” for Russell Wilson was Bradway. NEVER any talk of Rex. That info is new.

It’s new because you were 10 when it happened 

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Just now, funaz said:

Fixed that for you. Rex was much more successful with the Jets than parcels. 

Statistically yes but Parcells would have probably gotten us to a SB if Vinny didn’t get hurt in ‘99

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Just now, southparkcpa said:

Not absolute but very believable.   As a Wolfpack fan I knew Wilson would succeed, especially after he succeeded at Wisconsin. Also, swore that Brisset would succeed.

Brisset is looking pretty good

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Just now, Patriot Killa said:

I watched a lot of Baker last year. I didn’t see one reads? I seen him go through progressions rather well. Kind of hard to stat pad 27 touchdowns, Phil. 

I’m just saying.

Baker is about to join RG3, Kaepernick, VY etc hyped up players who flash during their rookie years or early on and then get exposed

 

He only has a top 5 WR now during his regression

 

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Just now, The Voice of Reason said:

Yeah... he thought he was a better version of Brad Smith... And Rex loved him some Brad Smith... 

Tebow was Woody’s call

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Just now, Larz said:

Rex getting the clicks 

Baker getting the picks

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Just now, slimjasi said:

Totally agree.

It’s almost like no one has watched the NFL for more than 6 weeks. 

Fans and media seem to want to completely re-evaluate players after every single week.

While this is a silly exercise with all players, it is particularly stupid with young QBs

It’s been 3 weeks Baker didn’t even look good facing our crappy defense

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2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Russell Wilson was Terry Bradway's boy... Multiple reports about how he banged the table for him... Never heard of Rex till you showed that heresay article.

Sorry I didn’t know we were in criminal court proceedings because Rex called out Baker for not being good

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2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Nobody’s always right especially w QB’s, and I’m not even sure on Darnold yet. But Mayfield seemed like a slam dunk overhyped a$$hole who’d get too flossed in his own ego to ever be really good. Guess we’ll see.

It’s gonna be a glorious meltdown 

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Browns next 4 weeks:

@Ravens

@49ers

seahawks

@Patriots

 

I’m hard

 

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1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

It’s almost like 2018 never happened. @slimjasi

If the browns start out 2-5 or 1-6 you’re ability to gloat about meaningless 2018 games might dissipate 

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1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Just saying that it was widely reported about Terry Bradway... never with a slight hint or mention that Rex wanted him until this article.  Also multiple beat reporters had it that Rex was all over having Tebow play a Brad Smith role to bring trickery to the game.

Post an article about Rex wanting Tebow

 

Tebow was 100% Woody’s meddle

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Just now, southparkcpa said:

I also believe Rex wanted Tebow.  He would see Tebow as his ground and pound QB.   Tebow beat us in 2012, Miami end of year and we somehow end up with Tebow and Sporano. REX is an emotional animal.

You have zero proof Rex wanted Tebow

 

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1 minute ago, JiF said:

He's such a ******* douchebag.  Most unlikeable POS in all of sports really.  Even Tom Brady isnt as smug and arrogant as Baker I've never won anything meaningful in my life Mayfield yet I have the audacity to insult the Giants organization for taking a player who's not a winner. 

As I said through the process last year, I hate Mayfield but almost wanted the Jets to draft him to get front row seats for his demise.  I literally hate the NFL, cant stand it, cant watch it.  The product is pure garbage.  That said, the only thing keeping me somewhat interested is the hope that Mayfield crashes and burns, really hard.  Which means he'll have a comeback MVP like season because the world hates me.

This thread will be FUN  4 weeks from now if the Browns are 1-6!

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1 minute ago, Ghost420 said:

I see a qb that rolls right out the pocket all the time if his 1st read isn't open. 

Yep

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2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Especially when that’s his MO, he’s not some kind of elite athlete with some elite skill set.

a. He was in the best offensive system in college football

b. He was an all guts and moxy overachiever 

with all the glory and fame his character seems more like a cross between Cutler/Sanchez/Newton and the all guts I’ll show them thing is morphing more into a defiant don’t you know who I am, thing

The part where you can see the train wreck coming is not only does that team have known problem children on the roster (OBJ, Sheldumb, Baker) but the head coach is over his head

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Just now, #27TheDominator said:

Heresay = Hearsay + heresy?  

I never heard that Rex wanted Wilson, but we did hear that he was despondent when the took Stephen Hill.  You have to figure there was somebody that he wanted.  Buttle is the kind of guy that might know and would still spill. 

Buttle is also a big time cheerleader for the jets and their management he wouldn’t make something like that up

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16 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

Hold on.  From a certain perspective it could be argued that Rex Ryan knows QBs better than just about anybody.  I can't ever recall a two week stretch in the postseason where a guy limited both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady on their home fields.  I vividly remember the announcer during that playoff game in Indy saying something like, "And here's Peyton Manning, hasn't been sacked in 3 weeks...."  the next play Rex schemes an easy sack against him.  Tom Brady hadn't thrown an INT in something like 200 pass attempts heading into that game.  1st Quarter, David Harris picks him off.  Every body said to pressure Brady, Rex wrote a totally different 2nd Half game plan for that day and at one point was dropping like 9 guys into coverage and suffocated any places Brady wanted to throw the ball.

And it's not just those two games, although they were the pinnacle.  He made life very, very tough on Aaron Rodgers and other elite passers (15 for 34, 0 TDs and a 59 Rating).  The year prior he went into San Diego against a Philip Rivers in his prime and held him to 1 TD, 2 INTs and a 76 rating.

There's a lot we can criticize Rex about but he knows QB tendencies, he knows how to defend them and in that regard, he really is a great evaluator of a QBs strengths and weaknesses.

It’s amazing how much Rex gets beat up on this board he is only responsible for the best stretch of football this fan base has seen for 50 years

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15 hours ago, jetsyrup said:

Rex doesn't know what makes a good QB. He couldn't identify a guy that will be a good QB if his life depended on it. 

He can tell you how to beat a QB, good or bad though.

So 3tds 5 ints and a 58% completion percentage despite having Landry, Njoku and OBJ is a “good QB?”

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4 hours ago, jgb said:

Rex is cocaine. If you need to get up for one big moment, take a snort and come out swinging. Problem is you feel like trash the day after and it loses its effectiveness as time goes on.

If Rex is cocaine then Bowles and Gase are heroin laced with cyanide and bleach

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17 hours ago, msena88 said:

Baker clapped back today...

 

Win another game Baker then talk

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1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Just because he can Scheme against a QB doesn't mean he knows how to scout a QB... Come on... playing defense and taking away QBs tendancies and making them feel uncomfortable in the pocket doesn't mean that he knows how to evaluate College or first year QBs and predict future success. This is a horrible argument.

Baker has looked mediocre as f-ck this year after getting a top 5 WR

 

 

Rex is right 

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2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Ding Ding Ding Ding

I mean all that’s left to figure out is does his epic melt down rival, or even surpass Ryan Leafs?

I can’t stand Baker, but I’d never put him in the Jamarcus Russell class, Bakers failures won’t be because he didn’t put in the work, or because he wasn’t passionate kid is as passionate as they come.

His over confidence, and cockiness combined with the egos around him, and the way today’s media flip flops on you in a NY minute will he his demise IMO.

Winning cures all, and can alter ones destiny, IMO that is Bakers only real chance at succeeding on the NFL level.

No one is saying Baker is Duhmarcus Russellbut the absolute hype train about this guy has been out of control

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2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Whether right or wrong... Rex has no credibility to scouting a QB... That is the point... not whether he is right or wrong... Between Dan Jones being the best QB and Baker Mayfield overrated... He gets no credit for hot takes, because he has no skill at evaluating a QB.... His voice means nothing on this subject... Now he starts talking how to defend against QBs or scouting Defensive players then there is something to listen to... But this sh*t is just media clickbait junk

Yeah Rex sucks he’s only responsible for the best football we have seen as jets fans in 50 years

 

Oh and Baker is overrated

 

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14 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

One thing I always found funny(Unless your a Browns fan) their original team went to Baltimore became the Ravens and have won 2 Bowls since they left.

And could end their season this week

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9 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

It's crazy.  Who would think that the answer to this.......Name a team with a 2018 1st round QB starting under a new offensive-minded head coach that had high expectations heading into the season and now has a losing record....would have two answers in the Jets and Browns.

Yeah but no one outside of jets fans thought they would be any good this year

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3 hours ago, Snell41 said:

 


This isn’t even remotely true. Rex was the #1 driving force in getting Tebow. He had to convince Tanny, and Tanny and Rex has to convince Woody. He was sitting in an airport with Tanny when word got out that DEN was willing to move Tebow. Rex immediately pushed for him lamenting the fact we lost Brad Smith and felt Tebow could fill that void and more. Woody had reservations about it but was convinced by Rex that it could be kept under control.


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Congrats to the Baker fanboyclub for Chubb beating the Ravens

 

How about that Jameis Winston?

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13 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

So here’s what I’ve learned today from reading the threads about them.

Josh Allen sucks because he got hurt before he could finish a game when it looked like he was about to pull off a comeback win against the Patriots.

Now I’ve learned that because you don’t like Mayfield’s mouth he’s shown himself to be “a self entitled douche” who’s what he was supposed to be. “Starter quality with a limited ceiling”. I guess that “limited ceiling” goes as high as the rookie TD record and the OROY.

Since you’re so good at rating a guy like Mayfield’s showing thus far in his career, why don’t you take a minute to tell us what Darnold “has shown himself to be”?

I’m guessing this should be chock full of feelings and projections, but go ahead, this should be interesting.

BTW imagine the fun you’d be having if it was Mayfield who came down with mono?

The cops arrested Mayfield in Fayetteville AR before he could get mono

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