Forbes Article on AG nails it...

[Matt39]

“He’s coaching to where football is going”

-Chris Johnson 

[rangerous]

for the past seven seasons or so we've seen the jets getting burned when the other teams play 8 men in the box.  the qb's/wr's/oline whomever just don't seem to be able to cope with those defenses.  i fail to see why gase will be any different at this point given the lack of some really good offensive players, particularly on the oline.  and if he doesn't have those players plan b has to be to use plays that the players can be good at.

as for the cba nonsense, the nfl is a 24/7/365 profession.  even if the players are restricted from live action drills they can still be in the film room or training facility to keep learning and understanding the game. 

[SOJ]

18 hours ago, Big_Slick said:

Gase is not going to throw the OL under the bus. He's protecting the talent-less bums he *INHERITED* and has to live with this season.

Give JD and AG a chance to pick their own players, there is no magic wand where Gase can 'coach them up'. You can put lipstick on a pig but it'll always be a pig.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, he picked his own players in Miami and he still lost so what makes you think his tenure here will be any different?  Based on his PC here and coaching his team looks unprepared, he has been out coached each game (Buf coaches owns him), and  the clincher 105 total yards in an NFL game... not even RK had that bad of an O. 

[Ohio State NY Jets fan]

Jets HC options/ interviews;

1. Eric Bieniemy - still lighting it up that offense in KC - the guy that got away?
2. Adam Gase - 0-3 with Jets 
3. Matt Rhule - stayed at Baylor currently 3-0 (maybe good decision) but unproven in NFL
4. Mike McCarthy - is still available and the break probably did him some good (needed)
5. Kris Richard - Dallas Def still looks good but preference was offense
6. Todd Monken - could be reason Mayfield is regressing and Browns offense looks worse with OBJ (solid offseason) 
7. Kliff Kingsbury - not impressed with anything he has done in the desert 
8. Jim Caldwell - part of phins tank command - worst team ever?

Besides Bieniemy, I am not sure there was a better option, even with some hindsight  - have to hope Gase gets back on track (OL is on mac - can't make steak from dirt) 

 

[Philc1]

Gase and Mangini both suck

[Philc1]

17 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Jets HC options/ interviews;

1. Eric Bieniemy - still lighting it up that offense in KC - the guy that got away?
2. Adam Gase - 0-3 with Jets 
3. Matt Rhule - stayed at Baylor currently 3-0 (maybe good decision) but unproven in NFL
4. Mike McCarthy - is still available and the break probably did him some good (needed)
5. Kris Richard - Dallas Def still looks good but preference was offense
6. Todd Monken - could be reason Mayfield is regressing and Browns offense looks worse with OBJ (solid offseason) 
7. Kliff Kingsbury - not impressed with anything he has done in the desert 
8. Jim Caldwell - part of phins tank command - worst team ever?

Besides Bieniemy, I am not sure there was a better option, even with some hindsight  - have to hope Gase gets back on track (OL is on mac - can't make steak from dirt) 

 

McCarthy

 

 

[BettyBoop]

21 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Mangini was forced out by Mike Holmgren because Holmgren wanted to coach again. Stupid article.

His 10-22 record may have had something to do with it.

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

“He’s coaching to where football is going”

-Chris Johnson 

Words of wisdom 

[Philc1]

Just now, BettyBoop said:

His 10-22 record may have had something to do with it.

Tom is still under the delusion that Mangini was 1/23rd as good as he thought he was

[BettyBoop]

7 hours ago, SAR I said:

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

1. Criticizes financial merit of PSL’s. 
2. Relies on Forbes for sports. 

SAR I

The financial merit of PSL???  That's an oxymoron.  

Let's take a look at some of this genius's comments.

• Fireman Ed was the reason the Jets lost the Buffalo game.  Seriously, he said that.
• Jets fans have been'clamoring' for a stadium that looks like a New York skyscraper.  What does that even mean?  I guess we wanted a stadium that looks like the New York, New York Casino!  That would have been better than MetLife!
• Chris Johnson made the decisions to sign the free agents and draft picks this year.  Well that explains a lot.
• PSL are a good investment!  PSL in section 113 which cost $25,000 each are available today online for $2,000.  Don't rush to buy them.  They'll be available for a long, long time.
• A true leader trashes his team and throws them under the bus!  I have to admit, this one is my favorite.  UN-truer words have never been spoken.

[More Cowbell]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

Gotta disagree there they have a lot to work on

Are you familiar  with sarcasm? 

[Larz]

26 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Are you familiar  with sarcasm? 

It’s annoying when someone misunderstands a 1 sentence post, right?

 

[SAR I]

17 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

The financial merit of PSL???  That's an oxymoron.   

I have Row 1 seats in the Mezzanine.  I could sell the PSL's for 20%+ for what I paid for them.  Not every PSL owner chose as wisely.  Not my problem.

17 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Let's take a look at some of this genius's comments.

• Fireman Ed was the reason the Jets lost the Buffalo game.  Seriously, he said that.

No, I said that Firefraud would be a non-factor because season ticket holders don't care about the chant anymore.  He wasn't a factor.  No one cared.  He barely made a chant effort at the Cleveland game.  He's a fairweather self-promoter.  Fall in love with Mr. Met, honey.  At least he's a loyal stuffed animal.

17 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Jets fans have been'clamoring' for a stadium that looks like a New York skyscraper.  What does that even mean?  I guess we wanted a stadium that looks like the New York, New York Casino!  That would have been better than MetLife!

No, I said that fans love Indianapolis because it's covered in brick (Indy 500) and CitiField because of its facade (Ebbets Field) and that MetLife looks like the Manhattan skyline (skyscraper).  The color of a plastic seat never won a football game, babe.

17 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Chris Johnson made the decisions to sign the free agents and draft picks this year.  Well that explains a lot.

Chris Johnson set the tone and opened the wallet to make splashy free agent signings, signings that led to the Jets getting the best Offensive and Defensive FA's this season.  That's a good thing, sweetie.

17 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

A true leader trashes his team and throws them under the bus!  I have to admit, this one is my favorite.  UN-truer words have never been spoken.

True leaders hold their subordinates responsible for doing their jobs.  If a factory worker forgets to push a button and that ruins a batch of hockey pucks, that factory worker gets called out and reprimanded, not the supervisor.  The supervisor taught the worker how to push the button.  The factory worker has been pushing that button without issue for the last ten years.  Today, he forgot to push the button.  So it's on him, not the supervisor.

We ran Ryan (these guys are the best in the league) and Bowles (I have to do a better job) out of town because they didn't hold players accountable.  Now we have Gase who is holding players responsible.  And now that's no good for you either.

Get a boyfriend.  Then you won't need to create your own misery with your football team.

SAR I

[BettyBoop]

3 hours ago, SAR I said:

I have Row 1 seats in the Mezzanine.  I could sell the PSL's for 20%+ for what I paid for them.  Not every PSL owner chose as wisely.  Not my problem.

No, I said that Firefraud would be a non-factor because season ticket holders don't care about the chant anymore.  He wasn't a factor.  No one cared.  He barely made a chant effort at the Cleveland game.  He's a fairweather self-promoter.  Fall in love with Mr. Met, honey.  At least he's a loyal stuffed animal.

No, I said that fans love Indianapolis because it's covered in brick (Indy 500) and CitiField because of its facade (Ebbets Field) and that MetLife looks like the Manhattan skyline (skyscraper).  The color of a plastic seat never won a football game, babe.

Chris Johnson set the tone and opened the wallet to make splashy free agent signings, signings that led to the Jets getting the best Offensive and Defensive FA's this season.  That's a good thing, sweetie.

True leaders hold their subordinates responsible for doing their jobs.  If a factory worker forgets to push a button and that ruins a batch of hockey pucks, that factory worker gets called out and reprimanded, not the supervisor.  The supervisor taught the worker how to push the button.  The factory worker has been pushing that button without issue for the last ten years.  Today, he forgot to push the button.  So it's on him, not the supervisor.

We ran Ryan (these guys are the best in the league) and Bowles (I have to do a better job) out of town because they didn't hold players accountable.  Now we have Gase who is holding players responsible.  And now that's no good for you either.

Get a boyfriend.  Then you won't need to create your own misery with your football team.

SAR I

Dr. SARbot...

I love the way you make up numbers and schit.  

• No, you said Fireman Ed lost the Bills game for the Jets
• No, you said 'Jets fans have been clamoring for a skyscraper look for their stadium'.  New York, NY casino/stadium!
• No, the free agent and draft signings were a disaster.  No OL of worth, no coners, no big receivers.  Well done!  And Johnson didn't make those decisions.
• A leader holds their people accountable in private.  They don't throw them under the bus to the media or anyone else, like Gase did last week.  Business 101.  It is beyond idiotic to think anything else.
• Please tell me what section you're in and I guarantee that I can find PSL in that section and row for a small fraction of what you paid.  And the broader point is, PSL were and are a giant ripoff and scam.  FOR EXAMPLE...today, you can buy PSL online in section 213, (MEZZANINE!) ROW 1!!!, for less than HALF PRICE of what they sold for.

You say stupid things.  Own them.  

Betty

[JetsYanks13]

Is there anyway the Jets fanbase can vote to impeach Gase as coach? Our owner is too dumb to fire him.


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[SAR I]

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

No, you said Fireman Ed lost the Bills game for the Jets

No, I didn't.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

No, you said 'Jets fans have been clamoring for a skyscraper look for their stadium'.  New York, NY casino/stadium!

No, I didn't.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

No, the free agent and draft signings were a disaster.  No OL of worth, no coners, no big receivers.  Well done!  And Johnson didn't make those decisions.

3 games with NCAA level quarterbacking doth not a season make.  Talk to me in 8 weeks, let's see how we are playing with a legitimate NFL offense.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

A leader holds their people accountable in private.  They don't throw them under the bus to the media or anyone else, like Gase did last week.  Business 101.  It is beyond idiotic to think anything else.

Please describe your management experience.  Describe the 100s of people you've led at an executive level.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

Please tell me what section you're in and I guarantee that I can find PSL in that section and row for a small fraction of what you paid.  And the broader point is, PSL were and are a giant ripoff and scam.  FOR EXAMPLE...today, you can buy PSL online in section 213, (MEZZANINE!) ROW 1!!!, for less than HALF PRICE of what they sold for.

Desperate people skip rent payments, skip car loan payments, and default on credit cards all the time.  If they need to dump their PSL's that's a pity but it does not reflect the value of the licenses. 

2019 is not the year to sell or do a valuation on PSL's.  The moment the Jets turn the corner, have a 10 win season, prove that Darnold is legit, fans who were 18 years old and in college in 2008 will have good jobs and be in their 30's and ready to become season ticket holders to watch a winning product.  It's those people that will pay good money for PSL's and the 20 years they have left in their lifespan.

Lastly, PSL's were not a rip off.  The Jets raised ticket prices from $65 to $125 in a 10 year period in Giants Stadium right before we moved.  Since then, the Jets have not raised ticket prices in MetLife Stadium a penny.  That's 10 years.  In fact, most ticket prices were reduced.  Someone with a $2,500 PSL in 2009 will wind up paying $8 a game over the life of the stadium. 

The time to scream about the Jets ripping off fans was between 1998 and 2008 when prices doubled.  Since then, prices have gone down.  The PSL for the average fan will wind up being between $8 and $15 per game.   Translation?  There was no PSL.  It was merely a small pre-payment for a ticket price increase that never came.  No one screamed about the $60 price increase between 1998 and 2008 so no one can scream about the $8 increase between 2009 and 2019. 

Savvy?

SAR I

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

A leader holds their people accountable in private.  They don't throw them under the bus to the media or anyone else, like Gase did last week.  Business 101.  It is beyond idiotic to think anything else.

1.  Name the player that Gase held responsible.  

2.  Parcells, always called players out.  Some by name.  Football doesnt fall into business 101.  And I ran divisions, we published everyones production, ranked them in order division wide and nation wide every month.  In private discussions are not always business 101

3.  More than a few that whined incessantly that Bowles never called anyone out, held no one responsible now have done a 180 

[BettyBoop]

36 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

1.  Name the player that Gase held responsible.  

2.  Parcells, always called players out.  Some by name.  Football doesnt fall into business 101.  And I ran divisions, we published everyones production, ranked them in order division wide and nation wide every month.  In private discussions are not always business 101

3.  More than a few that whined incessantly that Bowles never called anyone out, held no one responsible now have done a 180 

I don't see the logic that because Bowles didn't do something, Gase should.  Apples and Oranges.  Saying that Falk was fine but 'others didn't do their job' is throwing your team under the bus.  Gase didn't do his job with the terrible play calling all season.  A great coach will give his players credit when they win and take responsibility when they lose.  Gase is not a great coach.    

[pdxgreen]

I don't blame Gase for giving the team the week off.  The team is off to the worst start in since the early seventies.  Brow beating them about their mistakes isn't going to give the perspective they need to rally against nst the Eagles.  They need to start fresh next week.

[MaxAF]

On 9/27/2019 at 9:00 PM, Spoot-Face said:

Yeah I was on the McCarty train

[Spoot-Face]

16 minutes ago, MaxAF said:

Yeah I was on the McCarty train

I had dual tickets for both the "McCarthy" train, and the "Please, for the love of God, anyone but Adam ******* Gase" train.

[BettyBoop]

2 hours ago, SAR I said:

No, I didn't.

No, I didn't.

3 games with NCAA level quarterbacking doth not a season make.  Talk to me in 8 weeks, let's see how we are playing with a legitimate NFL offense.

Please describe your management experience.  Describe the 100s of people you've led at an executive level.

Desperate people skip rent payments, skip car loan payments, and default on credit cards all the time.  If they need to dump their PSL's that's a pity but it does not reflect the value of the licenses. 

What the phuck does this even mean???

2019 is not the year to sell or do a valuation on PSL's.  The moment the Jets turn the corner, have a 10 win season, prove that Darnold is legit, fans who were 18 years old and in college in 2008 will have good jobs and be in their 30's and ready to become season ticket holders to watch a winning product.  It's those people that will pay good money for PSL's and the 20 years they have left in their lifespan.

Lastly, PSL's were not a rip off.  The Jets raised ticket prices from $65 to $125 in a 10 year period in Giants Stadium right before we moved.  Since then, the Jets have not raised ticket prices in MetLife Stadium a penny.  MY TICKET PRICES HAVE GONE UP.  That's 10 years.  In fact, most ticket prices were reduced.  Someone with a $2,500 PSL in 2009 will wind up paying $8 a game over the life of the stadium.   $2500 PSL are now completely worthless.

The time to scream about the Jets ripping off fans was between 1998 and 2008 when prices doubled.  Since then, prices have gone down.  WRONG!  The PSL for the average fan will wind up being between $8 and $15 per game.   Translation?  There was no PSL.  It was merely a small pre-payment for a ticket price increase that never came.  No one screamed about the $60 price increase between 1998 and 2008 so no one can scream about the $8 increase between 2009 and 2019. 

Savvy?

SAR I

Dear Dr. SARbot...

Are you really Professor Irwin Corey?  Your bloviating makes about as much sense as Prof Corey explaining the infield fly rule in Mandarin.  It must suck when someone throws back your stupidity in your face and all you can say is "no I didn't".  Own them SARbot!  They're stupid but at least they're yours!

Where do you come up with these numbers???  Never mind, I actually know the part of your body they come from.  Average price increase between 2009 and 2019???  And for the record, my tickets prices have gone UP since I bought them.  I know you're in the Jets Marketing Department so you may want to call your friends in ticket sales so you can stop making statements that are just wrong.  I also love when you say completely moronic things like 'only 10% of the fans participate in the J-E-T-S chant'.  So I guess you sat there in row 1 and counted 7,823 people who joined Fireman Ed?

So tell me what you have to say about the PSL in section 213, row 1 selling today for less than half price???

Betty

 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

I don't see the logic that because Bowles didn't do something, Gase should.  Apples and Oranges.  Saying that Falk was fine but 'others didn't do their job' is throwing your team under the bus.  Gase didn't do his job with the terrible play calling all season.  A great coach will give his players credit when they win and take responsibility when they lose.  Gase is not a great coach.    

Not logic, just an observation.  Whatever some don’t have is what they prefer.  

He didn’t throw people under the bus.  He called it like it was.  They played like shlt, don’t get the idea that players are such vaginas that if their HC acknowledges what we all know, that they didn’t get it done, that their vaginas will get twisted.  They deserved to hear they sucked and they should bust their ball to play well next week and their HC will acknowledge them.  

But thats me. 

[SAR I]

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

Dear Dr. SARbot...

Are you really Professor Irwin Corey?  Your bloviating makes about as much sense as Prof Corey explaining the infield fly rule in Mandarin.  It must suck when someone throws back your stupidity in your face and all you can say is "no I didn't".  Own them SARbot!  They're stupid but at least they're yours!

I have no idea what this means.  Translate it to English and then I will attempt to answer.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

Where do you come up with these numbers???  Never mind, I actually know the part of your body they come from.  Average price increase between 2009 and 2019??? 

I don't know how much clearer I can say this.  The Jets lowered ticket prices in MetLife Stadium, they haven't raised them.  2009 to 2016, prices were frozen, I used to pay $125 a ticket, Since 2017 I now pay $120 (premium game) and $92 (non-premium game).

In 1998 a Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium was $40.  In 2008 that same Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium cost $125.  Go search eBay or Google Images for Jets ticket stubs.  The prices are all there. 

If you don't believe facts that's up to you.

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

So tell me what you have to say about the PSL in section 213, row 1 selling today for less than half price???

I said it already, why do I have to repeat myself?  One person on one hard luck PSL website does not define a marketplace.  People sell things well below fair market value out of desperation all the time, PSL's included.

What you should be looking at is that there are only 241 Jets PSL's for sale right now out of 18,500 licenses sold.  That's 1.3% of all people holding PSL's that are selling them.  Oh my God.  What a problem.  What a collapsing market.  Like any PSL owner would look at PSL Source and use that as a benchmark.  Please.

Betty sweetheart, you are out of your depths on this one.  Please find another poster to spar with, and pick a topic you know something about so you don't waste their time.

SAR I

[BettyBoop]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

I have no idea what this means.  Translate it to English and then I will attempt to answer.

I don't know how much clearer I can say this.  The Jets lowered ticket prices in MetLife Stadium, they haven't raised them.  2009 to 2016, prices were frozen, I used to pay $125 a ticket, Since 2017 I now pay $120 (premium game) and $92 (non-premium game).

In 1998 a Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium was $40.  In 2008 that same Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium cost $125.  Go search eBay or Google Images for Jets ticket stubs.  The prices are all there. 

If you don't believe facts that's up to you.

I said it already, why do I have to repeat myself?  One person on one hard luck PSL website does not define a marketplace.  People sell things well below fair market value out of desperation all the time, PSL's included.

What you should be looking at is that there are only 241 Jets PSL's for sale right now out of 18,500 licenses sold.  That's 1.3% of all people holding PSL's that are selling them.  Oh my God.  What a problem.  What a collapsing market.  Like any PSL owner would look at PSL Source and use that as a benchmark.  Please.

Betty sweetheart, you are out of your depths on this one.  Please find another poster to spar with, and pick a topic you know something about so you don't waste their time.

SAR I

Dear Dr. SARbot...

As I suggested, call your friends in the ticketing department to confirm the Jets have NOT lowered all ticket prices and have in fact raised some (mine).   If you pay $120 a ticket your PSL are absolutely worthless.  You will get $0 if you tried to sell them.  Stop spreading your bullschit that they are a good investment and yours have magically gone up.    

Again, you are pulling numbers out of your butt if you think there are only 241 PSL for sale.  There are dozens of resale sites and most people don't even bother to list because they are worthless.

Surprising since Jets fan have been "clamoring for a stadium that looks like a skyscraper'!  And Fireman Ed losing games for us!

And to help you...

Bloviation is a style of empty, pompous political speech popularized by United States President Warren G. Harding, who, himself a master of the technique, described it as "the art of speaking for as long as the occasion warrants, and saying nothing". The verb "to bloviate" is the act of creating bloviation.

It must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you can just make up facts.

Betty

 

[Philc1]

4 hours ago, MaxAF said:

Yeah I was on the McCarty train

Maybe if we finish 3-13 the ignorant Johnson Bros will be too next January 

[southparkcpa]

6 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

1.  Name the player that Gase held responsible.  

2.  Parcells, always called players out.  Some by name.  Football doesnt fall into business 101.  And I ran divisions, we published everyones production, ranked them in order division wide and nation wide every month.  In private discussions are not always business 101

3.  More than a few that whined incessantly that Bowles never called anyone out, held no one responsible now have done a 180 

And we still are a laughing stock in the NFL.  

[Philc1]

4 hours ago, Spoot-Face said:

I had dual tickets for both the "McCarthy" train, and the "Please, for the love of God, anyone but Adam ******* Gase" train.

It was slim pickings

 

King Kliffbury - wanted the Arizona job he seemed to be a west coast guy and I don’t know if he’s just a flavor of the month it seems

Monken - yeah right

The Baylor Coach - a dumb midget

Arians - perfect for Sam but wanted the Bucs job

 

The Johnsons are too dumb to think outside the box

 

Gase on paper was a good candidate he’s just been exposed here

 

 

[Philc1]

5 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

And we still are a laughing stock in the NFL.  

Yeah but Gase is doing a good job!

[varjet]

Gase will recover enough this year to keep his job (and not cost the Johnsons too much money) for next year.

With a better Darnold and roster in 2020, I think Gase’ limits become more evident, and he is replaced for 2021 from hopefully a decent HC candidate pool.  With Douglas and staff doing a better job and the Johnsons behaving, hopefully more HCs want to coach the Jets.  

[Jet Nut]

8 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

I don't see the logic that because Bowles didn't do something, Gase should.  Apples and Oranges.  Saying that Falk was fine but 'others didn't do their job' is throwing your team under the bus.  Gase didn't do his job with the terrible play calling all season.  A great coach will give his players credit when they win and take responsibility when they lose.  Gase is not a great coach.    

Huh? I said fans complained that Bowles didnt.  Logic has nothing to do with it.  Fans whined that Mangini was too serious and tough, loved Rex for a few because he wasnt Mangini then when Rex fell apart complained that we needed a serious HC.  

That quote isnt throwing anyone under the bus, you just want it to be and are trying to make something that is nothing into something that is a problem.  Nothing that you are saying is what makes a great coach a great one. 

And we dont know what Gase is or isnt at this point, playing without key players, especially at QB.

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Philc1 said:

It was slim pickings

 

King Kliffbury - wanted the Arizona job he seemed to be a west coast guy and I don’t know if he’s just a flavor of the month it seems

Monken - yeah right

The Baylor Coach - a dumb midget

Arians - perfect for Sam but wanted the Bucs job

 

The Johnsons are too dumb to think outside the box

 

Gase on paper was a good candidate he’s just been exposed here

 

 

So who did you want that was outside of the box, remind us.  I forget who it is you want ,usually its you just crying about who we have.  

Oh and how Stupid the Johnsons are. Brilliant

[SAR I]

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Dear Dr. SARbot...

As I suggested, call your friends in the ticketing department to confirm the Jets have NOT lowered all ticket prices and have in fact raised some (mine). 

What Section are your seats in?  It's very easy to look up what the prices were in 2009 and what they are today.  Let's have 'em.

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

If you pay $120 a ticket your PSL are absolutely worthless.  You will get $0 if you tried to sell them.  Stop spreading your bullschit that they are a good investment and yours have magically gone up.     

What does the face value of my tickets have to do with the value of the PSL?  There is no correlation.  As for what I could get for my PSL's presently, I believe I could get 20% more than I paid for them.  Because I've been offered that before and turned it down.

I don't appreciate your potty mouth.  If my daughter spoke to me in this fashion I would smack her across the face.

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Surprising since Jets fan have been "clamoring for a stadium that looks like a skyscraper'!  And Fireman Ed losing games for us!

I see you didn't find the quotes that you attributed to me.  An apology would have been the class move; this Twitter training isn't helping you in a discussion forum.

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

Again, you are pulling numbers out of your butt if you think there are only 241 PSL for sale.  There are dozens of resale sites

PSLSouce is the big one and the majority of those on the smaller sites are just repeats.  The people who are dumping their PSL's are a tiny fraction and they are in financial hardship and shouldn't have gotten them in the first place.  Either they weren't committed to a 30 year process or simply relocated, lost their job, got sick, died, etc.  A tiny 1.3% of all PSL owners putting their PSL's up for sale should paint a very clear picture for you.  Annual seat changeover in Giants Stadium was 4% per year.

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

and most people don't even bother to list because they are worthless. 

That varies wildly by location.  PSL's behind the goalposts or with obstructed views or in a very pricey gameday ticket price zone will have lost value.  My seats in Row 1 of the mezzanine directly adjacent to pricey club seats with gameday ticket prices between $91 and $125 are a great value.  Hot having to stand up because your view is blocked and being able to control the views of 100's of fans behind you has its privileges.  Not everyone chose good PSL seats.  Not my problem.

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

It must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you can just make up facts.

Betty

In 1998 a Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium was $40.  In 2008 that same Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium cost $125.  Go search eBay or Google Images for Jets ticket stubs.  The prices are all there.  Those are facts.  You can try to discredit me all you like, but they are factual.

Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you think PSL owners care about or remember what they spent in 2008.  Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you think there are thousands of PSL's for sale at bargain prices. Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you believe the lies of the incorrect PSL forum narratives.  Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you wish ill will on your fellow Jets fans because they are doing well and don't have your financial issues.

You don't have to worry about how rich people spend their fun money, sweety.  That's why we call it 'fun' money.  We could burn it back then and it doesn't matter to us now.  If you don't like your tickets, take action and sell them.  Your whining is unattractive.

SAR I

[BettyBoop]

On 9/30/2019 at 12:07 AM, SAR I said:

What Section are your seats in?  It's very easy to look up what the prices were in 2009 and what they are today.  Let's have 'em.

What does the face value of my tickets have to do with the value of the PSL?  There is no correlation.  As for what I could get for my PSL's presently, I believe I could get 20% more than I paid for them.  Because I've been offered that before and turned it down.

I don't appreciate your potty mouth.  If my daughter spoke to me in this fashion I would smack her across the face.

I see you didn't find the quotes that you attributed to me.  An apology would have been the class move; this Twitter training isn't helping you in a discussion forum.

PSLSouce is the big one and the majority of those on the smaller sites are just repeats.  The people who are dumping their PSL's are a tiny fraction and they are in financial hardship and shouldn't have gotten them in the first place.  Either they weren't committed to a 30 year process or simply relocated, lost their job, got sick, died, etc.  A tiny 1.3% of all PSL owners putting their PSL's up for sale should paint a very clear picture for you.  Annual seat changeover in Giants Stadium was 4% per year.

That varies wildly by location.  PSL's behind the goalposts or with obstructed views or in a very pricey gameday ticket price zone will have lost value.  My seats in Row 1 of the mezzanine directly adjacent to pricey club seats with gameday ticket prices between $91 and $125 are a great value.  Hot having to stand up because your view is blocked and being able to control the views of 100's of fans behind you has its privileges.  Not everyone chose good PSL seats.  Not my problem.

In 1998 a Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium was $40.  In 2008 that same Mezzanine ticket at Giants Stadium cost $125.  Go search eBay or Google Images for Jets ticket stubs.  The prices are all there.  Those are facts.  You can try to discredit me all you like, but they are factual.

Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you think PSL owners care about or remember what they spent in 2008.  Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you think there are thousands of PSL's for sale at bargain prices. Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you believe the lies of the incorrect PSL forum narratives.  Must be sad to live in a fantasy world where you wish ill will on your fellow Jets fans because they are doing well and don't have your financial issues.

You don't have to worry about how rich people spend their fun money, sweety.  That's why we call it 'fun' money.  We could burn it back then and it doesn't matter to us now.  If you don't like your tickets, take action and sell them.  Your whining is unattractive.

SAR I

This nonsense brought to you by the New York Jets Marketing Department and the imagination of Dr. SARbot!

By the way, how often do you smack your kids around?  Do the authorities know about this???

[Joe Willie]

On 9/27/2019 at 8:59 PM, Nixhead said:

I originally liked the Gase hire but I admit I was wrong. We have all been duped by this guy. The only thing he has done that helped the Jets is get rid of Mr. MacCoffee. The jury is still out on Joe Douglas. Face it Jet fans - just like Chris Johnson we fell into Gases trap. What kind of a head coach lets his offensive line perform the way they have no matter who is playing there. He sukkks!

Whatta ya mean "we?" ?