Popular Post KRL Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 Anyone who didn't think this game was going to be a blowout was delusional. The day Sam Darnold was ruled out with mono this game was over. The offense knows they can't compete with Luke Falk as a starter. And it showed in their body language, you didn't see frustration you saw resignation with the numerous turnovers and three and outs. A bit of credit to the defense for hanging in there and playing with emotion as they were constantly on the field. Considering that the three turnovers led directly to 21 points they held PHI to 10 points, not bad: - Nice to see Quinnen Williams back and making some plays. He blew a layup sack as he whiffed on Wentz but at least he was in PHI backfield a number of times. He has to build on this game, because by the end of the year he has to be a consistent DLine playmaker - Why??? Because Leonard Williams is the "jaggiest of JAGs". Another game where his name was never called other than being hit with penalties. What a HUGE disappointment - Why was Trumaine Johnson let out of the doghouse??? I would rather see if Nate Hairston can develop into something by the end of the year. No more old high priced free agent CBs!!! Only CB's 27 years old or younger from now - Neville Hewitt continues to step up in CJ Mosley's absence. Another 10 tackles, TFL and a QB hit in his reps - Tarell Basham (5 tackles, 2 TFL) and Jordan Willis (2 QB hits) flashed some edge pressure - Brian Winters is bad, that is all - Chuma Edoga was spun around on way too many plays - Luke Falk is not an NFL QB at this point. Holds the ball too long, below average arm strength and seems totally overwhelmed. Other than that he's terrific - LeVeon Bell is being wasted, his talents are still there and he show glimpses but he can't overcome the dreck at OLine & QB If Sam Darnold isn't cleared this week prepare for another dumpster fire against DAL 11 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 The oline looks 10 times worse cause falk was scared to throw the ball. You cant really evaluate anyone else on offense w/ falk out there. I agree. Hairston earned playing time. Not sure why they went back to trumaine. He lost interest the minute he got paid. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, KRL said: - Brian Winters is bad, that is all - Chuma Edoga was spun around on way too many plays On the bright side, one of those 2 might get better... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Falk holds on to the ball, has zero mobility, and can’t throw it farther than 7 yards 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Great post. I know it's prob not a pop view but with the rash of injuries we've faced and the opposition our schedule awarded - it may be for the best that Sam was forced to rest these past few weeks. He gets to come back with fresh legs at the same time as Herndon, Mosley, Jenkins and Copeland (that's literally a different line backing group). That's five starters on like five or six weeks extra rest. I'm hopeful that these guys will make a difference and we win a few games... But honestly...we could prob use a solid year of relatively higher draft picks too as we need to completely rebuild the Oline the way the Colts did over the past few seasons. I am only worried now about how the line will perform over the next few months - I've never seen a line play THIS badly this consistently... And I fear we are putting awful wear and tear on Leveon and will put Sam in harm's way unless our supposed oline guru starts finding some answers... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 People making excuses fornthe oline. Yes falk is horrible but the oline is just as bad. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, nico002 said: Falk holds on to the ball, has zero mobility, and can’t throw it farther than 7 yards Hahahahahaha. I screamed, “He throws like a girl” about 4 or 5 times during the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 How is Leo playing like this in a contract year? they screwed up on tru. Here was a reason his old team didn’t want him back on a long contract 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ghost420 said: People making excuses fornthe oline. Yes falk is horrible but the oline is just as bad. Falk holds the ball too long exposes the OL more than normal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hahahahahaha. I screamed, “He throws like a girl” about 4 or 5 times during the game. I said he throws like a 10 year old girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 These aren’t observations. They are a mix of rants, opinions and ugly truths..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I don't blame falk holding the ball too long making for the OL looking bad, they are just bad. I can't understand for the life of me why Kalil is still playing. He looks horrible out there. Can he at least get in someone way making them go around him giving the QB an extra second to throw. Winters and Beachum just look like they should be taken out back and shot. The only positive I saw is it looks like DT can still get behind DB's. I didn't see if he does it with positioning or speed but he should be a positive for Sam next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Falk holds the ball too long exposes the OL more than normal. I agree he holds the ball too long but often times he doesn't even have time to do anything. He sucks and so does the oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Let’s be clear. Luke Falk is bad. The OL is made up of the worst starter at each position in the NFL. Winters and Kalil are our steadying forces while also be the worst players on our OL. The receivers are depleted. Our top 10 capable TE hasn’t played yet. But some people are acting like losing to a Super Bowl favorite team is the worst thing that’s ever happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Lev Bell is legitI knew it before this year ... but didn’t fully know itHe balls out & gets more than is there play in / play out ... in the middle of this $h*t-storm “offense” ... while all 11 guys on the other side of the field know that he is the only player they need to be concerned aboutLev Bell = BEAST!!! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The New York Jets lost to the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday by a score of 31 to 6. The loss drops the Jets to 0 and 4 on the season. Anyone who didn’t think this game was going to be a blowout was delusional. The day Sam Darnold was ruled out with mono this game was over. The offense knows they can’t compete with Luke Falk as a starter. And it showed in their body language, you didn’t see frustration you saw resignation with the numerous turnovers and three and outs. A bit of credit to the defense for hanging in there and playing with emotion as they were constantly on the field. Considering that the three turnovers led directly to 21 points they held PHI to 10 points, not bad: – Nice to see Quinnen Williams back and making some plays. He blew a layup sack as he whiffed on Wentz but at least he was in PHI backfield a number of times. He has to build on this game, because by the end of the year he has to be a consistent DLine play maker. – Why? Because Leonard Williams is the “jaggiest of JAGs”. Another game where his name was never called other than being hit with penalties. What a HUGE disappointment. – Why was Trumaine Johnson let out of the doghouse? I would rather see if Nate Hairston can develop into something by the end of the year. No more old high priced free agent CBs. Only CB’s 27 years old or younger from now. – Neville Hewitt continues to step up in CJ Mosley’s absence. Another 10 tackles, TFL and a QB hit in his reps. – Tarell Basham (5 tackles, 2 TFL) and Jordan Willis (2 QB hits) flashed some edge pressure. – Brian Winters is bad, that is all. – Chuma Edoga was spun around on way too many plays. – Luke Falk is not an NFL QB at this point. Holds the ball too long, below average arm strength and seems totally overwhelmed. Other than that he’s terrific. – LeVeon Bell is being wasted, his talents are still there and he show glimpses but he can’t overcome the dreck at OLine & QB. If Sam Darnold isn’t cleared this week prepare for another dumpster fire against the Dallas Cowboys. The post Jets Lose 31-6 to Eagles; KRL Notes appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Quinnen had 4 tackles and an assist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMart Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The OL is average imo, considering the injuries. The issues are magnified with alike being at QB. My observations on Luke 1. Holds the ball for an eternity. 2. Stares down his 1st read 3. Doesn’t scan the field 4. Has absolutely no pocket awareness 5. Decent accuracy on short passes but weak arm strength 6. Can’t consistently hit WRs. Dumpoffs is all he’s good for. 7. There was a reason Jets let him go. If you’re a QB and Jets released you, you should reject any incoming calls from the NFL and make your way to CFL for a few years. Or forever. NFL isn’t for you. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 hours ago, ryu79 said: Great post. I know it's prob not a pop view but with the rash of injuries we've faced and the opposition our schedule awarded - it may be for the best that Sam was forced to rest these past few weeks. He gets to come back with fresh legs at the same time as Herndon, Mosley, Jenkins and Copeland (that's literally a different line backing group). That's five starters on like five or six weeks extra rest. I'm hopeful that these guys will make a difference and we win a few games... But honestly...we could prob use a solid year of relatively higher draft picks too as we need to completely rebuild the Oline the way the Colts did over the past few seasons. I am only worried now about how the line will perform over the next few months - I've never seen a line play THIS badly this consistently... And I fear we are putting awful wear and tear on Leveon and will put Sam in harm's way unless our supposed oline guru starts finding some answers... He'll need them as he runs for life avoiding sacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 After watching this offense without Darnold, I remember this from one of my camp notes. Unfortunate that nothing changed: https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/145764-krl-camp-notes-72519/?tab=comments#comment-4138113 Concerns - Inaccuracy of the backup QB's - Offense didn't function well when Darnold wasn't under center 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 hours ago, thshadow said: On the bright side, one of those 2 might get better... No they won’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicDrass1 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Jets at full strength lost a close one to the 4-1 Bills. Jets have some solid pieces. Ol is biggest problem and playmaking Wrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Ryan Kalil is Wesley Johnson level bad right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Sarcasm aside, did anything good show up on tape yesterday? Maybe someone with more technical viewpoint can shed some light on positives? I know the OL gave up 10 sacks but part of that was the QB holding the ball. I thought at times they actually looked less confused than prior weeks. Can anyone comment on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 hours ago, JetNation said: Luke Falk is not an NFL QB at this point. Holds the ball too long, below average arm strength and seems totally overwhelmed Waive-CUT-retire whatever hope to never see him on the field in an NFL game for the NY Jets again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 thanks for watching the game, I was out after the 1st quarter... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsDevilsPA Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, KRL said: Anyone who didn't think this game was going to be a blowout was delusional. The day Sam Darnold was ruled out with mono this game was over. The offense knows they can't compete with Luke Falk as a starter. And it showed in their body language, you didn't see frustration you saw resignation with the numerous turnovers and three and outs. A bit of credit to the defense for hanging in there and playing with emotion as they were constantly on the field. Considering that the three turnovers led directly to 21 points they held PHI to 10 points, not bad: - Nice to see Quinnen Williams back and making some plays. He blew a layup sack as he whiffed on Wentz but at least he was in PHI backfield a number of times. He has to build on this game, because by the end of the year he has to be a consistent DLine playmaker - Why??? Because Leonard Williams is the "jaggiest of JAGs". Another game where his name was never called other than being hit with penalties. What a HUGE disappointment - Why was Trumaine Johnson let out of the doghouse??? I would rather see if Nate Hairston can develop into something by the end of the year. No more old high priced free agent CBs!!! Only CB's 27 years old or younger from now - Neville Hewitt continues to step up in CJ Mosley's absence. Another 10 tackles, TFL and a QB hit in his reps - Tarell Basham (5 tackles, 2 TFL) and Jordan Willis (2 QB hits) flashed some edge pressure - Brian Winters is bad, that is all - Chuma Edoga was spun around on way too many plays - Luke Falk is not an NFL QB at this point. Holds the ball too long, below average arm strength and seems totally overwhelmed. Other than that he's terrific - LeVeon Bell is being wasted, his talents are still there and he show glimpses but he can't overcome the dreck at OLine & QB If Sam Darnold isn't cleared this week prepare for another dumpster fire against DAL Great Post but you spent way more time on this than I would have. My post would have been more like: Game Observations (PHI) Jets are HORRIBLE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, KRL said: Anyone who didn't think this game was going to be a blowout was delusional. The day Sam Darnold was ruled out with mono this game was over. The offense knows they can't compete with Luke Falk as a starter. And it showed in their body language, you didn't see frustration you saw resignation with the numerous turnovers and three and outs. A bit of credit to the defense for hanging in there and playing with emotion as they were constantly on the field. Considering that the three turnovers led directly to 21 points they held PHI to 10 points, not bad: - Nice to see Quinnen Williams back and making some plays. He blew a layup sack as he whiffed on Wentz but at least he was in PHI backfield a number of times. He has to build on this game, because by the end of the year he has to be a consistent DLine playmaker - Why??? Because Leonard Williams is the "jaggiest of JAGs". Another game where his name was never called other than being hit with penalties. What a HUGE disappointment - Why was Trumaine Johnson let out of the doghouse??? I would rather see if Nate Hairston can develop into something by the end of the year. No more old high priced free agent CBs!!! Only CB's 27 years old or younger from now - Neville Hewitt continues to step up in CJ Mosley's absence. Another 10 tackles, TFL and a QB hit in his reps - Tarell Basham (5 tackles, 2 TFL) and Jordan Willis (2 QB hits) flashed some edge pressure - Brian Winters is bad, that is all - Chuma Edoga was spun around on way too many plays - Luke Falk is not an NFL QB at this point. Holds the ball too long, below average arm strength and seems totally overwhelmed. Other than that he's terrific - LeVeon Bell is being wasted, his talents are still there and he show glimpses but he can't overcome the dreck at OLine & QB If Sam Darnold isn't cleared this week prepare for another dumpster fire against DAL imo the biggest issue was waiting until friday to scratch darnold. falk got limited reps in practice. the oline looked bad but maybe a little better than against the patsies and the browns. edoga was too much of a turnstile. at least the defense looks like it's good enough to keep them in games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, JetsMetsDevilsPA said: Great Post but you spent way more time on this than I would have. My post would have been more like: Game Observations (PHI) Jets are HORRIBLE. I would add in Luke Falk is not an NFL QB and is the worst in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 Everything on offense is connected. If a QB doesn't know where to go with the ball, holds it too long and is immobile the OLine will give up sacks. A number of sacks from yesterday were on Falk's lack of skills. Also, if Falk got extra reps in practice NOTHING was going to change. He's a practice squad QB trying to run an offense and he can't. Watching the KC/IND game last night illustrated a few of those points. Because Mahomes got his legs banged up he was immobile, held the ball too long and got sacked a ton. He looked nothing like his MVP self 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, rangerous said: imo the biggest issue was waiting until friday to scratch darnold. falk got limited reps in practice. the oline looked bad but maybe a little better than against the patsies and the browns. edoga was too much of a turnstile. at least the defense looks like it's good enough to keep them in games. 100% disagree. Falk blows...a couple extra practices or games or years won’t change that. Now if in those extra years humankind figures out how to change Falks entire body structure, athletic ability, and brain processing speed...well then maybe a couple extra practices would help. Side note Mike Leach must be a hell of a coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 ✔Rich Cimimi Film breakdown of the Jets' 10 sacks allowed (IMO): Winters 2, Beachum 2, Edoga 2, Griffin 1, Kalil 1, Wesco 1. I put one on Falk, and I'd say he contributed to two others by holding the ball too long. #Jets 1 9:52 AM - Oct 7, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 hours ago, CurtMart said: The OL is average imo, considering the injuries. The issues are magnified with alike being at QB. My observations on Luke 1. Holds the ball for an eternity. 2. Stares down his 1st read 3. Doesn’t scan the field 4. Has absolutely no pocket awareness 5. Decent accuracy on short passes but weak arm strength 6. Can’t consistently hit WRs. Dumpoffs is all he’s good for. 7. There was a reason Jets let him go. If you’re a QB and Jets released you, you should reject any incoming calls from the NFL and make your way to CFL for a few years. Or forever. NFL isn’t for you. This is the truth right here... Overall the line sucks... but there were no free runners this game and most of the sacks were on the QB and not the line. Should the line play better... Yes they need to, Edoga is getting beat on too many spin moves and Beachum doesn't know how to hand off blocks properly... but overall the line looked competent if they just had a QB that could throw more then 7 yards... playing against a stacked box because nobody respects his arm leads to tons of sacks... easy pickings ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 falk is bad but not having him practice with the ones could not have helped him any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Sammybighead said: Sarcasm aside, did anything good show up on tape yesterday? Maybe someone with more technical viewpoint can shed some light on positives? I know the OL gave up 10 sacks but part of that was the QB holding the ball. I thought at times they actually looked less confused than prior weeks. Can anyone comment on this? Bell is a beast and the Defense is playing tremendous given the circumstances they are dealing with. (Horrible Off, they lost the play caller of the defense and their best player, don't have any of their starting LBs, Trumaine Johnson Sucks, Leo is a bust, etc., etc.) and they still are only giving up 17 points a game. These are the positives. Hopefully they can put the Falk era behind them starting tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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