Protest this team

[SAR I]

4 hours ago, Dcat said:

Dude...  you like to classify all the stupid Jets fans (and there are many) as Mets fans.  Got news for you buddy.  Plenty of Jets-Yankees fans say the same stupid things.  I know plenty of them.  One has nothing to do with the other.  Get over it.  It's stupid and petty of you.  Because your football team sucks, you love to piss on other Jets fans other allegiances.  Makes you feel better, huh?  How about  Knicks fans?  Want to piss on Knicks fans too?  Screw that.  It makes you look petty and, frankly, not so smart.  Do yourself a favor and stick to football here.  JMO.  carry on.

There is a Mets mentality that is the polar opposite of a Yankees mentality.  We share the same communities and the same highways but we are very different when it comes to patience and temperament. 

So when Mets and Yankees fans are pushed together as a collective of Jets fans, you've got a split personality among our fanbase.  Mets fans are gloom and doomers who like to play the role of loveable losers, Yankee fans are optimists who are used to lean years and strong years with no patience for depressive behavior.  Mets fans want Gase killed for a weak offense and embarrassing them at the lunch table, Yankees fans think that's crazy talk because we know what it's like to suffer through unexpected injury and we are self-confident enough to not worry about petty teasing.

That is my only point on the matter.

SAR I

[SAR I]

3 hours ago, choon328 said:

So are you guys protesting Darnolds spleen or the chick that game him Mono? Otherwise I have no idea who or why you'd be protesting.

Well, all that protesting they did last year when Kyle Shanahan lost Jimmy Garoppolo and went 4-12 clearly worked because this year they look to be the best team in the NFC.  I mean, firing Kyle Shanahan really did the trick, and...

Wait.  They didn't protest?  They realized it was an act of God and waited for their quarterback to get healthy and stuck by their new head coach?  And now they're 4-0?  That can't be right.  Must have been a bi-plane in there somewhere.

SAR I

[jetstream23]

20 hours ago, drcgull said:

I am a PSL/ season ticket holder. Is there any way to organize the season ticket holders to show their displeasure by not showing up and not selling your tickets to a game. It would really make a statement to have the stadium 75 percent empty. 

 

Empty seats and opposing fans in the stadium for 20+ years hasn't really made a difference.  I don't think a "protest" stance by a few hundred or even a couple thousand fans will make a difference in that.

Wear green.

Get in the seats early.

Support Sam and this team.

Beat the Cowgirls. That's where I stand.

[jetstream23]

14 minutes ago, SAR I said:

There is a Mets mentality that is the polar opposite of a Yankees mentality.  We share the same communities and the same highways but we are very different when it comes to patience and temperament. 

So when Mets and Yankees fans are pushed together as a collective of Jets fans, you've got a split personality among our fanbase.  Mets fans are gloom and doomers who like to play the role of loveable losers, Yankee fans are optimists who are used to lean years and strong years with no patience for depressive behavior.  Mets fans want Gase killed for a weak offense and embarrassing them at the lunch table, Yankees fans think that's crazy talk because we know what it's like to suffer through unexpected injury and we are self-confident enough to not worry about petty teasing.

That is my only point on the matter.

SAR I

This is a great post.  There's a lot of human psychology at play here in the Jets fan base.  I don't think that stereotype of Mets fans applies to everyone, because I'm a Mets fan and I'm still an optimist....about the future of both teams.   But there's truth in what you wrote.  Some people are resilient and get back up.  Others are the "whoa is me" crowd and get actual enjoyment from complaining about things in life.

I believe the unfortunate thing with the Jets is that the hopes were high heading into Week 1 (and deservedly so).  And, the Jets were proving that they could deliver on those hopes with a 16-0 lead into the 3rd Quarter until an injury to the best defender started the dominoes tumbling.  The Monday hangover of a 1 point loss was compounded when we learned that Darnold was out.  The loss of Darnold was compounded when the Jets backup QB went down just a Quarter into his first game.  We've been riding a QB3 and underperforming OLine ever since and it hasn't helped that the Jets have played against teams with a combined 14-6 record so far.

I get it....it's real easy to get down about this stuff but I'm looking at a Defense that's continued to play hard and an offense that's getting several players back this week.  The Jets have been without 7 starters for most of the year including 2 of their 3 best players on the team.  Brighter days are ahead.

[joewilly12]

We are 0-4 that's the first time this has happened in 16 years. 

[southparkcpa]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

The average season ticket holder for the average NFL team knows that during a 30 year commitment in order to get a 10 year run as a consistent playoff team and Super Bowl contender you've got to suffer through 20 years of bad football in that span.  49ers, Cowboys, Patriots, Giants, Packers, pick a great NFL franchise, that's how the math works out.

So, yeah, it wasn't fun the last 8 years watching the Jets implode.  But, yes, the future is bright and the season ticket holder's reward for those 8 years of wasted time and wasted money is that our dreams are going to come true very soon and that makes it worth every minute.  I'm a NY Rangers fan and I'm still buzzing off of the '94 Stanley Cup win; I actually don't need them to win another one to make my fandom for hockey complete.

SAR I

You are delusional. The PATS were in the SB in the 80's, 90's etc.  What dry run?  The Cowboys were relevant into the late 70's and then again in the 90's.

You actually believe the crap you are pedaling. 

 

 

[SAR I]

31 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

You are delusional. The PATS were in the SB in the 80's, 90's etc.  What dry run?  The Cowboys were relevant into the late 70's and then again in the 90's.

You actually believe the crap you are pedaling.

In the last 20 years, the Dallas Cowboys missed the playoffs 13 times and have won 3 playoff games in that span.

The Jets have won more playoff games in 2 seasons than the Cowboys have since 1996, that's 23 years.

SAR I

[SAR I]

31 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

You are delusional. The PATS were in the SB in the 80's, 90's etc.  What dry run?  The Cowboys were relevant into the late 70's and then again in the 90's.

You actually believe the crap you are pedaling.

In the years leading up to the dynasty, the New England Patriots were the Jets in red uniforms.

They failed to make the playoffs 15 times in 22 years and went 7 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.  When making the playoffs, they had a record of 6-7.

Again, the point is, even the well-run franchises have long stretches of time where their fans think they suck and the sky is falling.  But patience pays off for loyal season ticket holders.

SAR I

[SAR I]

Season ticket holders of the 49ers just went through a stretch where they had 14 non-playoff seasons just to have a 3 year window where they came close to a Championship and fell short.

Again, a great-run franchise, one of the league's dynasties, and even their season ticket holders have to put up with 14 years of suck to get a measly 3 years of glory. 

It's how it is in the NFL.  Drew Brees Saints, 1 Super Bowl.  Aaron Rogers Packers, 1 Super Bowl.  Peyton Mannings Colts 1 Super Bowl.  All those franchises went through long and painful stretches before they found their franchise quarterback and had a window and all they could do is eke out 1 measly Super Bowl win each.

The NFL is hard.  Hard for players.  Hard for fans.  Perhaps you should follow tennis.  Pick the right player, you can have a wonderful decade.

SAR I

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, SAR I said:

There is a Mets mentality that is the polar opposite of a Yankees mentality.  We share the same communities and the same highways but we are very different when it comes to patience and temperament. 

So when Mets and Yankees fans are pushed together as a collective of Jets fans, you've got a split personality among our fanbase.  Mets fans are gloom and doomers who like to play the role of loveable losers, Yankee fans are optimists who are used to lean years and strong years with no patience for depressive behavior.  Mets fans want Gase killed for a weak offense and embarrassing them at the lunch table, Yankees fans think that's crazy talk because we know what it's like to suffer through unexpected injury and we are self-confident enough to not worry about petty teasing.

That is my only point on the matter.

SAR I

You are generalizing and I know you are a lot smarter than this.  I know so many Jets-Yankees fans that want to lynch Gase right now.  I know Mets-Jets fans who don't.  You attempt to associate Jets fans with fandom of other teams in other sports is downright awful reasoning.  Actually there is no reasoning.  Just a feeble attempt to draw an analogy that is false.  False analogies are bad logic and they are obvious.  Just stop.  

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

This is a great post.  There's a lot of human psychology at play here in the Jets fan base.  I don't think that stereotype of Mets fans applies to everyone, because I'm a Mets fan and I'm still an optimist....about the future of both teams.   But there's truth in what you wrote.  Some people are resilient and get back up.  Others are the "whoa is me" crowd and get actual enjoyment from complaining about things in life.

I believe the unfortunate thing with the Jets is that the hopes were high heading into Week 1 (and deservedly so).  And, the Jets were proving that they could deliver on those hopes with a 16-0 lead into the 3rd Quarter until an injury to the best defender started the dominoes tumbling.  The Monday hangover of a 1 point loss was compounded when we learned that Darnold was out.  The loss of Darnold was compounded when the Jets backup QB went down just a Quarter into his first game.  We've been riding a QB3 and underperforming OLine ever since and it hasn't helped that the Jets have played against teams with a combined 14-6 record so far.

I get it....it's real easy to get down about this stuff but I'm looking at a Defense that's continued to play hard and an offense that's getting several players back this week.  The Jets have been without 7 starters for most of the year including 2 of their 3 best players on the team.  Brighter days are ahead.

Jets fans right now are disappointed.  Some are hopeful (I am) some are not.  You will find a mix of fans of both NY baseball teams, all 3 hockey teams and probably both BB teams who feel both ways.  But SAR's constantly insulting "Mets fans" by inanely generalizing seems to be his prime opportunity to thump his chest as a Yankees fan since he can't do so as a Jets fan.  Never mind that the logic behind it is sketchy at best.  Tired of it.  It's stupid, illogical and flat out incorrect.

That is all.

[SAR I]

17 minutes ago, Dcat said:

You are generalizing and I know you are a lot smarter than this.  I know so many Jets-Yankees fans that want to lynch Gase right now.  I know Mets-Jets fans who don't.  You attempt to associate Jets fans with fandom of other teams in other sports is downright awful reasoning.  Actually there is no reasoning.  Just a feeble attempt to draw an analogy that is false.  False analogies are bad logic and they are obvious.  Just stop.  

The reason you are so uptight on this subject is because you're a Mets fan.

j/k.  Get Joe Girardi and your problems are solved.

SAR I

[BurnleyJet]

The Jets have sucked for 50 years.

We have the 27th Worst Winning percentage in NFL history. 

The Pats are 4th all time, Miami 5th, and the Bills 23rd.

I’ve watched this mess since 1982. In the best part of 40 years, I’ve never seen us have a real QB. All our AFCE teams have had HOF QB’s, Super Bowl appearances and one with 6 Wins In that time.

In all that sh*t, and forever waiting until next year SOJ bull sh*t. I’ve never seen worse performances than I’ve seen in the last month. At this point we aren’t any better than an expansion franchise. Anything else is pure delusion.

Rank	Team	GP	Won	Lost	Tied	Pct.	First NFL Season	Division
1	Dallas Cowboys	898	512	380	6	.573	1960	NFC East
2	Chicago Bears	1,386	761	583	42	.564	1920	NFC North
3	Green Bay Packers	1,352	743	571	38	.564	1921	NFC North
4	New England Patriots

900 500 391 9 .561 1960 AFC East 5 Miami Dolphins 816 452 360 4 .556 1966 AFC East 6 Minnesota Vikings 886 478 397 11 .546 1961 NFC North 7 Baltimore Ravens 368 200 167 1 .545 1996 AFC North 8 New York Giants 1,321 692 596 33 .536 1925 NFC East 9 Denver Broncos 900 476 414 10 .534 1960 AFC West 10 San Francisco 49ers 1,018 532 472 14 .529 1950 NFC West 11 Indianapolis Colts^[c] 982 516 459 7 .529 1953 AFC South 12 Pittsburgh Steelers 1,208 628 558 22 .529 1933 AFC North 13 Kansas City Chiefs 900 469 419 12 .528 1960 AFC West 14 Oakland Raiders 900 466 423 11 .524 1960 AFC West 15 Seattle Seahawks 676 344 331 1 .510 1976 NFC West 16 Washington Redskins 1,218 600 590 28 .504 1932 NFC East 17 Los Angeles Chargers^[d] 900 447 442 11 .503 1960 AFC West 18 Los Angeles Rams 1,151 568 562 21 .503 1937 NFC West 19 Carolina Panthers 384 190 193 1 .496 1995 NFC South 20 Philadelphia Eagles 1,204 577 601 26 .490 1933 NFC East 21 Cleveland Browns 970 469 490 11 .489 1950 AFC North 22 Tennessee Titans 900 431 463 6 .482 1960 AFC South 23 Buffalo Bills 900 415 477 8 .466 1960 AFC East 24 Detroit Lions 1,249 559 658 32 .460 1930 NFC North 25 Cincinnati Bengals 788 357 427 4 .456 1968 AFC North 26 New Orleans Saints 802 362 435 5 .454 1967 NFC South 27 New York Jets 900 401 491 8 .450 1960 AFC East 28 Houston Texans 272 121 151 0 .445 2002 AFC South 29 Jacksonville Jaguars 384 170 214 0 .443 1995 AFC South 30 Atlanta Falcons 816 358 452 6 .442 1966 NFC South 31 Arizona Cardinals 1,346 553 753 40 .426 1920 NFC West 32 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 676 260 415 1 .385 1976 NFC South

[56mehl56]

4 hours ago, SAR I said:

In the years leading up to the dynasty, the New England Patriots were the Jets in red uniforms.

They failed to make the playoffs 15 times in 22 years and went 7 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.  When making the playoffs, they had a record of 6-7.

Again, the point is, even the well-run franchises have long stretches of time where their fans think they suck and the sky is falling.  But patience pays off for loyal season ticket holders.

SAR I

Yep just ask their die hard fans about Sullivan Stadium, of course they won't know what your talking about because their die hard fans didn't start until post Drew Bledsoe. 

[56mehl56]

3 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

The Jets have sucked for 50 years.

We have the 27th Worst Winning percentage in NFL history. 

The Pats are 4th all time, Miami 5th, and the Bills 23rd.

I’ve watched this mess since 1982. In the best part of 40 years, I’ve never seen us have a real QB. All our AFCE teams have had HOF QB’s, Super Bowl appearances and one with 6 Wins In that time.

In all that sh*t, and forever waiting until next year SOJ bull sh*t. I’ve never seen worse performances than I’ve seen in the last month. At this point we aren’t any better than an expansion franchise. Anything else is pure delusion.

Rank	Team	GP	Won	Lost	Tied	Pct.	First NFL Season	Division
1	Dallas Cowboys	898	512	380	6	.573	1960	NFC East
2	Chicago Bears	1,386	761	583	42	.564	1920	NFC North
3	Green Bay Packers	1,352	743	571	38	.564	1921	NFC North
4	New England Patriots

900 500 391 9 .561 1960 AFC East 5 Miami Dolphins 816 452 360 4 .556 1966 AFC East 6 Minnesota Vikings 886 478 397 11 .546 1961 NFC North 7 Baltimore Ravens 368 200 167 1 .545 1996 AFC North 8 New York Giants 1,321 692 596 33 .536 1925 NFC East 9 Denver Broncos 900 476 414 10 .534 1960 AFC West 10 San Francisco 49ers 1,018 532 472 14 .529 1950 NFC West 11 Indianapolis Colts^[c] 982 516 459 7 .529 1953 AFC South 12 Pittsburgh Steelers 1,208 628 558 22 .529 1933 AFC North 13 Kansas City Chiefs 900 469 419 12 .528 1960 AFC West 14 Oakland Raiders 900 466 423 11 .524 1960 AFC West 15 Seattle Seahawks 676 344 331 1 .510 1976 NFC West 16 Washington Redskins 1,218 600 590 28 .504 1932 NFC East 17 Los Angeles Chargers^[d] 900 447 442 11 .503 1960 AFC West 18 Los Angeles Rams 1,151 568 562 21 .503 1937 NFC West 19 Carolina Panthers 384 190 193 1 .496 1995 NFC South 20 Philadelphia Eagles 1,204 577 601 26 .490 1933 NFC East 21 Cleveland Browns 970 469 490 11 .489 1950 AFC North 22 Tennessee Titans 900 431 463 6 .482 1960 AFC South 23 Buffalo Bills 900 415 477 8 .466 1960 AFC East 24 Detroit Lions 1,249 559 658 32 .460 1930 NFC North 25 Cincinnati Bengals 788 357 427 4 .456 1968 AFC North 26 New Orleans Saints 802 362 435 5 .454 1967 NFC South 27 New York Jets 900 401 491 8 .450 1960 AFC East 28 Houston Texans 272 121 151 0 .445 2002 AFC South 29 Jacksonville Jaguars 384 170 214 0 .443 1995 AFC South 30 Atlanta Falcons 816 358 452 6 .442 1966 NFC South 31 Arizona Cardinals 1,346 553 753 40 .426 1920 NFC West 32 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 676 260 415 1 .385 1976 NFC South

For comparison sake Burnley has been around since the late 1880's how many championships have they won ??

 

Liking a team doesn't guarantee you'll see a winning franchise - only 1 team hoists the trophy every year , at least the Jets have 1 , there are other teams that have yet to win. 

 

[56mehl56]

12 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

Then sell to opposing fans.  Agreed that the system is set up to "NOT" penalize bad teams and THAT is unfortunate. BUT we as fans need to do something to let Woody know this is totally unacceptable. The Rays in Florida get decimated EVERY year as their free agents leave. They have very low attendance but they field a competitive team.  Same with the Lightning. Lightning is owned by Peter Vinick, he lets the GM run the show. 

They should do something similiar to soccer if your team finishes in the bottom 2  they are relegated and must wait 1 or 2 years to get back into the NFL. Use the USFL/XFL or a newly formed league to hold the 6-8 teams that would compete for a spot to ascend up. 

It would completely eliminate tanking and force owners to be accountable for their messes. Hit them where it hurts take away their earning power and things would get serious pretty quickly. 

[BurnleyJet]

3 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

For comparison sake Burnley has been around since the late 1880's how many championships have they won ??

 

Liking a team doesn't guarantee you'll see a winning franchise - only 1 team hoists the trophy every year , at least the Jets have 1 , there are other teams that have yet to win. 

 

Two, but to be fair it’s not a level playing field unlike the NFL. It’s also more competitive, and we have four professional leagues with 92 teams in them. 91 since Bury is now bankrupt.

[Fantasy Island]

On 10/7/2019 at 6:05 PM, drcgull said:

I am a PSL/ season ticket holder. Is there any way to organize the season ticket holders to show their displeasure by not showing up and not selling your tickets to a game. It would really make a statement to have the stadium 75 percent empty. 

Are there even 75 STH's?

[jgb]

On 10/8/2019 at 12:08 AM, drcgull said:

Hey you still think this team is making the playoffs. Enjoy it. Let me know how it goes 

When it doesn’t happen the excuses will be pretty amazing 

[jgb]

8 hours ago, Dcat said:

Jets fans right now are disappointed.  Some are hopeful (I am) some are not.  You will find a mix of fans of both NY baseball teams, all 3 hockey teams and probably both BB teams who feel both ways.  But SAR's constantly insulting "Mets fans" by inanely generalizing seems to be his prime opportunity to thump his chest as a Yankees fan since he can't do so as a Jets fan.  Never mind that the logic behind it is sketchy at best.  Tired of it.  It's stupid, illogical and flat out incorrect.

That is all.

Don’t know any Mets fans who post 20x a day that the Jets are going to the playoffs... seems they are in general realistic about the Jets.

[Losmeister]

On 10/7/2019 at 3:05 PM, drcgull said:

I am a PSL/ season ticket holder. Is there any way to organize the season ticket holders to show their displeasure by not showing up and not selling your tickets to a game. It would really make a statement to have the stadium 75 percent empty. 

well within your rights....