Skeptable Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: This is such a stupid stat. He is a winning coach when his starting qb plays. Hahahahahaha. Only delusional jet fans would mention this. A good coach should be able to win games regardless. Look at ron rivera, looks at sean payton, look at doug pederson, look at doug marrone. The fact that he can only win when everything goes right shows what a limited coach he really is. So by that metric Kyle Shanahan is a loser... Got it... So insufferable... They cherry pick stats like they are the end all be all... Not all w/l records show the whole story. Gase didn't build this roster... These are not his players... 4 games into a season with 3 QBs... Jesus christ... Move on You do you... Just keep it to the other threads 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetsRay Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Next man up would be the correct thing to do but we don't have anyone. Ryan Griffin 5 catches for 17 yards in 4 games It wasn’t the TE it was the very raw not ready yet #3 practice squad QB throwing to him! Maybe you didn’t notice... ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, JetsRay said: It wasn’t the TE it was the very raw not ready yet #3 practice squad QB throwing to him! Maybe you didn’t notice... ? How about scrub if not on the NY jets roster not in the NFL QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How about scrub if not on the NY jets roster not in the NFL QB. Your post is stupid! He was on the PS, most PS squad development QBs in their second year aren’t ready, like any other team in the league. This isn’t a Jets thing! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 What an a$$hole....wtf else is gonna go wrong with this damn team Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Your post is stupid! He was on the PS, most PS squad development QBs in their second year aren’t ready, like any other team in the league. This isn’t a Jets thing! Better QB's were available the NY Jets keeping this guy because of 1 decent preseason game was stupid Davis Webb was a better QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It never ends. Fire this Wesco kid up already 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMart Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The ****? I put all my eggs in that basket. Even passed on Everrett. Sheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 56 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Better QB's were available the NY Jets keeping this guy because of 1 decent preseason game was stupid Davis Webb was a better QB. Which ones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Which ones? In May-August when Adam Gase brought Luke Falk in many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Skeptable said: So by that metric Kyle Shanahan is a loser... Got it... So insufferable... They cherry pick stats like they are the end all be all... Not all w/l records show the whole story. Gase didn't build this roster... These are not his players... 4 games into a season with 3 QBs... Jesus christ... Move on You do you... Just keep it to the other threads Do you watch football? Kyle shannahan is a terrible example to prove your point. Shannahan had scrubs like beathered and mullins throwing for 300 yards and multiple tds a game. Thats a real coach turning chicken sh!t into chicken soup. Gases loses his qb and this turns into a barely functional high school offense. Kyle Shannahan??? Dude, what an awful example. Hahahaha. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: In May-August when Adam Gase brought Luke Falk in many. Falk is developmental QB the back-up was Siemian... Falk should never have seen the field this year and is not ready for the NFL... So for 2 games the Jets should have tried to get and pay some random Vet that isn't even in the league anymore? Make sure he is up to speed on the playbook and win behind this offensive line?? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The bleacher report guys were excited on Wesco - maybe Sam will give him a shot to catch the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Do you watch football? Kyle shannahan is a terrible example to prove your point. Shannahan had scrubs like beathered and mullins throwing for 300 yards and multiple tds a game. Thats a real coach turning chicken sh!t into chicken soup. Gases loses his qb and this turns into a barely functional high school offense. Kyle Shannahan??? Dude, what an awful example. Hahahaha. Kyle Shanahan is a losing coach... went 4-12 when his QB went down.... So you get to change your argument because this statistic doesn't work for your argument 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Skeptable said: Based on all the games you watched him coach with his first string QB that's healthy... Because he is a winning HC in that scenario Do I expect them to win? - No! Do I expect to see the line collapse, and play the worst scheme I’ve ever seen no! Do I expect to see the worst offensive football I’ve ever seen in my 40 years of fandom no! Adam Gase is absolutely clueless, his play calling is horrible, his zone blocking scheme is so bad the line looks 100x worse than last season, with the same players. The guy has zero innovation, he tried nothing to help. No roll outs, no creativity, nothing. His system had the receivers running routes 2 yards short of the sticks. On the bye week, he didn’t run any practice. He came to Philadelphia, unprepared, and proceeded to put on the worst performance I’ve ever seen. I know it’s our third QB, but there are NFL experienced QB on the streets, he could have signed. Then put together some plan in the two week bye. No he stuck with Falk. What I witnessed was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Now we come to the Dallas game, Darnold returns and all of a sudden we are going to start Winning games? After what I’ve just seen from the guru football genius, we are going to get more of the same, but Darnold running for his life. When we get beaten hard, Then the team quits, you might start to realise what’s really going on.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Skeptable said: Falk is developmental QB the back-up was Siemian... Falk should never have seen the field this year and is not ready for the NFL... So for 2 games the Jets should have tried to get and pay some random Vet that isn't even in the league anymore? Make sure he is up to speed on the playbook and win behind this offensive line?? Osweiler would know Gase's playbook and could have been signed for a song. It could have restarted his career so he wouldn't be looking to cash in but the way JD throws money to retired players, he probably signed him 10 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Do I expect them to win? - No! Do I expect to see the line collapse, and play the worst scheme I’ve ever seen no! Do I expect to see the worst offensive football I’ve ever seen in my 40 years of fandom no! Adam Gase is absolutely clueless, his play calling is horrible, his zone blocking scheme is so bad the line looks 100x worse than last season, with the same players. The guy has zero innovation, he tried nothing to help. No roll outs, no creativity, nothing. His system had the receivers running routes 2 yards short of the sticks. On the bye week, he didn’t run any practice. He came to Philadelphia, unprepared, and proceeded to put on the worst performance I’ve ever seen. I know it’s our third QB, but there are NFL experienced QB on the streets, he could have signed. Then put together some plan in the two week bye. No he stuck with Falk. What I witnessed was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Now we come to the Dallas game, Darnold returns and all of a sudden we are going to start Winning games? After what I’ve just seen from the guru football genius, we are going to get more of the same, but Darnold running for his life. When we get beaten hard, Then the team quits, you might start to realise what’s really going on.. Not for nothing, and this isn’t to pick on you, but how do you know what scheme Gase is running? You talk about zone blocking scheme, how do you know he hasn’t changed it? Do you know what the line calls are? Do you know what routes the receivers are supposed to be running? You see a play on tv but how do you know the receiver ran the right route, that he read the secondary the right way and ran the correct option route? I get it’s been ugly and I’m not saying Gase has been spectacular, but the truth is unless we are in the huddle we have no idea what was the call and who may or may not have blown their assignment. I kind of laugh a little when people start talking about scheme and zone blocking vs. man blocking vs. power etc. etc. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Getting back to Herndon, this is unacceptable. This isn't bad luck, this is a guy doing something he was not ready for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Getting back to Herndon, this is unacceptable. This isn't bad luck, this is a guy doing something he was not ready for. I'd think he should've been ready to run some routes and been actively doing that the last 4 weeks. But..... Who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, BUM-KNEE said: I'd think he should've been ready to run some routes and been actively doing that the last 4 weeks. But..... Who knows A hammy is an injury you get when you don't properly stretch it out. I know some people are more flexible but this is redic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Do I expect them to win? - No! Do I expect to see the line collapse, and play the worst scheme I’ve ever seen no! Do I expect to see the worst offensive football I’ve ever seen in my 40 years of fandom no! Adam Gase is absolutely clueless, his play calling is horrible, his zone blocking scheme is so bad the line looks 100x worse than last season, with the same players. The guy has zero innovation, he tried nothing to help. No roll outs, no creativity, nothing. His system had the receivers running routes 2 yards short of the sticks. On the bye week, he didn’t run any practice. He came to Philadelphia, unprepared, and proceeded to put on the worst performance I’ve ever seen. I know it’s our third QB, but there are NFL experienced QB on the streets, he could have signed. Then put together some plan in the two week bye. No he stuck with Falk. What I witnessed was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Now we come to the Dallas game, Darnold returns and all of a sudden we are going to start Winning games? After what I’ve just seen from the guru football genius, we are going to get more of the same, but Darnold running for his life. When we get beaten hard, Then the team quits, you might start to realise what’s really going on.. 24 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Not for nothing, and this isn’t to pick on you, but how do you know what scheme Gase is running? You talk about zone blocking scheme, how do you know he hasn’t changed it? Do you know what the line calls are? Do you know what routes the receivers are supposed to be running? You see a play on tv but how do you know the receiver ran the right route, that he read the secondary the right way and ran the correct option route? I get it’s been ugly and I’m not saying Gase has been spectacular, but the truth is unless we are in the huddle we have no idea what was the call and who may or may not have blown their assignment. I kind of laugh a little when people start talking about scheme and zone blocking vs. man blocking vs. power etc. etc. Just one guy who studies tapes opinions And another Just saying it might not be Gase's play calling... There are guys wide open. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 So hopefully only out 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: So hopefully only out 2 weeks 2 weeks? Ugh. 2 too long. So frustrating because now he’ll prob deal with this all season and just never be 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said: 2 weeks? Ugh. 2 too long. So frustrating because now he’ll prob deal with this all season and just never be 100%. You had it though... I just can't believe he did that... I wonder if he was just out of shape and pushed too hard prepping to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 By the time Herndon comes back from the hamstring in 4 weeks Goodell will suspend him 2 games for jaywalking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: 2 weeks? Ugh. 2 too long. So frustrating because now he’ll prob deal with this all season and just never be 100%. Yeah hamstrings you are better off staying out till they fully heal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Getting back to Herndon, this is unacceptable. This isn't bad luck, this is a guy doing something he was not ready for. You don’t know that. Guys pull hamstrings all the time even if they are conditioned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: A hammy is an injury you get when you don't properly stretch it out. I know some people are more flexible but this is redic. I am aware of that. Still.... One would think he was doing what he needed to do on his own. (Stretch and stay in game shape) He isn't a green rookie that wouldn't know the drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said: I am aware of that. Still.... One would think he was doing what he needed to do on his own. (Stretch and stay in game shape) He isn't a green rookie that wouldn't know the drill. He kind of is and I'm not sure Gase is on top of things enough to keep tabs on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Better QB's were available the NY Jets keeping this guy because of 1 decent preseason game was stupid Davis Webb was a better QB. Lmao...Davis Webb? know what the NYJ record at this point would be if they had kept and started Davis Webb instead of Falk? 0-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Lmao...Davis Webb? know what the NYJ record at this point would be if they had kept and started Davis Webb instead of Falk? 0-4 How do you know this? We do know Falk sucked in every aspect of an NFL QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: He kind of is and I'm not sure Gase is on top of things enough to keep tabs on him Gase is beyond lost — he and Douglas are benefitting like crazy from this perfect storm of injuries they now get 3 years at least to stink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: So hopefully only out 2 weeks Sign or trade for another TE the starter Ryan Griffin has 5 catches 17 yards in 4 games, better players on the street. UNLESS Sam Darnold can get him the ball make him a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How do you know this? We do know Falk sucked in every aspect of an NFL QB. Well in pre-season the Webbmaster looked like a bag of foreskins when the play was vanilla and the players were backups. Faulk looked like he was worth holding onto at that point, in the same situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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