Popular Post Newjetsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Opposite of Baker which means Sam is really good. Tiki says good Dallas lost to really really good Darnold! 11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post More Cowbell Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Baker is on his way to Jeff George status. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Newjetsfan said: Opposite of Baker which means Sam is really good. Tiki says good Dallas lost to really really good Darnold! Nice find. Thanks for posting. I also think Sam is the anti-Baker off the field. A good kid, soft-spoken, humble, but still seems to be a good leader. The guys seem to follow him based on what he brings on the field. It was only one game, but I loved the way this kid elevated the guys around him on Sunday. Can't wait to see him continue to grow and develop over the years. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Baker is on his way to Jeff George status. Nah, he's way more accurate than Jeff George ever was. Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him by the national media. He beat up on a lot of bad teams/bad defenses last year and the media responded by basically telling everyone he was ready to be an MVP type of player . . . and he wasn't. As the schedule softens, the Browns will win some games and finish right around 8-8/9-7, which is where a lot of sharp people had them at the beginning of the year, anyway. The thing that worries me about Baker long term is still his demeanor/personality. Fiery guys like him flame out and I could see the expectations of stardom getting to him. But, I still think he has a lot of talent as a passer. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurnleyJet Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 We may have picked the right Quarterback after all.. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Baker is on his way to Jeff George status. Maybe, but its still very early in his career. I will forever be comparing Darnold to Baker, Allen, Rosen and Jackson so I delight in any of their failures, but it's too early to enshrine or label any of them as losers. I would always have preferred Darnold over a guy like Baker for the Jets due to the personality as well. Baker would be in trouble in NY/NJ IMO. Could you imagine Sam with OBJ, Landry and Njoku etc? Let's hope that Darnold can continue to progress this season and watch as next year JD does what we have all been dreaming of. Build a top 5 OL and get Sam a legit star WR to go with Anderson and Crowder. Boy oh Boy am I looking forward to seeing Herndon on the field. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nixhead Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Im still convinced that we got the best QB in that draft. Sam isn't perfect but he seems to do everything the right way! 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, slimjasi said: Nah, he's way more accurate than Jeff George ever was. Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him by the national media. He beat up on a lot of bad teams/bad defenses last year and the media responded by basically telling everyone he was ready to be an MVP type of player . . . and he wasn't. As the schedule softens, the Browns will win some games and finish right around 8-8/9-7, which is where a lot of sharp people had them at the beginning of the year, anyway. The thing that worries me about Baker long term is still his demeanor/personality. Fiery guys like him flame out and I could see the expectations of stardom getting to him. But, I still think he has a lot of talent as a passer. If you actually watch him play that's not really the case. Two of his three INTs were behind or clunked to his WRs. He leads the NFL in INTs this season. He leads the NFL in INTs since he was named starter. That's a little over a full season. None of this says accurate. This isn't college in a high powered offense vs weak college defenses, it's the NFL Maybe he should stop making every commercial he can. Makes it look like he's not working on being a football player, even if not the case. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Nah, he's way more accurate than Jeff George ever was. Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him by the national media. He beat up on a lot of bad teams/bad defenses last year and the media responded by basically telling everyone he was ready to be an MVP type of player . . . and he wasn't. As the schedule softens, the Browns will win some games and finish right around 8-8/9-7, which is where a lot of sharp people had them at the beginning of the year, anyway. The thing that worries me about Baker long term is still his demeanor/personality. Fiery guys like him flame out and I could see the expectations of stardom getting to him. But, I still think he has a lot of talent as a passer. I never thought JG was inaccurate, I thought he had average accuracy, I just felt he was dumb as a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Jet Nut said: If you actually watch him play that's not really the case. Two of his three INTs were behind or clunked to his WRs. He leads the NFL in INTs this season. He leads the NFL in INTs since he was named starter. That's a little over a full season. None of this says accurate. This isn't college in a high powered offense vs weeks defenses, it's the NFL Maybe he should stop making every commercial he can. Makes it look like he's not working on being a football player, even if not the case. He's playing poorly right now, but I still think he will turn out to be an accurate passer and he is still more accurate than Jeff George, who was the biggest tease ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: I never thought JG was inaccurate, I thought he had average accuracy, I just felt he was dumb as a brick. Maybe. He definitely wasn't known for his good decision making. He was another guy who was hyped up to wazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Sam Darnold is still learning to play the football right now. Still raw and still finding his way. Off the field he is already a consummate professional that conducts himself with class and seems to only be thinking of the next game . Even when his spleen is swolled up he was fixated on getting out and playing. So far, so damn good. 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lith Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: Thanks for posting. I needed a good UGA memory this week. I was sitting in the stands at the Rose Bowl thst evening. Best sporting event I have ever attended live. And in some ways, that game was a microcosm of Baker's career to date. First half, we sat back in zone, didn't pressure Baker and given time, he is deadly accurate and will pick you apart. 2nd half, we brought pressure, played more man to man, and he got rattled and made mistakes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 I don't really see the Jeff George - Baker Mayfield comparison. Jeff George was a prototypical passer and the consensus #1 from well before draft season. Mayfield is a fidget from what has been considered a gimmick offense and on draft day was a surprise at #1 overall. I get that they both seem a little wacky and thin skinned, but George seemed more Cutler "I don't care" than hyper-involved trash talker Baker Mayfield. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Legend Killa7 Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 I think everyone is piling on Baker right now. I have posted on this topic many a time: I wanted Sam, I'm glad we got Sam, but I was prepared to get Baker in the draft last year. I think his play will come around. I was never one of these people on here last year saying Sam was better than Baker, and I still won't today. that discussion should be tabled for sometime down the road. too small a sample size right now. But the fact remains: Baker is an a$$hole off the field. and that is something that will never change IMHO. and I think that is why he is being piled on by everyone now. when you mouth off and you do well, people just kind of shrug their shoulders....but when you mouth off and play like he has this year? whew!!! look out!! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Jeff George had all the tools to be great but was inept at reading defenses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenwichjetfan Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him The thing that worries me about Baker long term is still his demeanor/personality. He is not a victim of anything that he didn't bring upon himself. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 With the weapons he has and the team around him the number of interceptions he has thrown has to be concerning. Ironically Sam was viewed as a possible turn over machine coming out but has really improved in that regard while Mayfield was lauded for not turning the ball over and probably why the Browns took him first. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Klecko73isGod Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Nah, he's way more accurate than Jeff George ever was. Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him by the national media. He beat up on a lot of bad teams/bad defenses last year and the media responded by basically telling everyone he was ready to be an MVP type of player . . . and he wasn't. As the schedule softens, the Browns will win some games and finish right around 8-8/9-7, which is where a lot of sharp people had them at the beginning of the year, anyway. The thing that worries me about Baker long term is still his demeanor/personality. Fiery guys like him flame out and I could see the expectations of stardom getting to him. But, I still think he has a lot of talent as a passer. Part of this is Baker's own doing, He was cocky as hell in the offseason and he didn't have to accept every offer to do a TV commercial. He should have been in the film room studying, like Sam. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I never thought JG was inaccurate, I thought he had average accuracy, I just felt he was dumb as a brick. Well you don't have to be smart to be an NFL QB. Just look at Terry Bradshaw. Chuck Knoll wanted to kill Bradshaw because he was dumb as a post. They had to simplify the offense for him. Knoll was one of the first HC's to come up with the plays on a wristband because of Bradshaw's stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said: Part of this is Baker's own doing, He was cocky as hell in the offseason and he didn't have to accept every offer to do a TV commercial. He should have been in the film room studying, like Sam. This. Was just typing up a similar response. Mayfield once went to the podium in a press conference and said "I woke up this morning feeling dangerous". ******* dbag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Baker is a victim of the insane hype bestowed upon him by the national media. He beat up on a lot of bad teams/bad defenses last year and the media responded by basically telling everyone he was ready to be an MVP type of player . . . and he wasn't. AGreed the hype train hit him like a freight train but leading the league in interceptions is also telling of other underlying issues. He’s just not seeing the field well at all and that regression is concerning. There is a such thing as being rattled week after week by pass rush but this seems to be different. He’s just not clicking with the play calling and his teammates on each play. Is this on Kitchens more than anything? Idk. But this has been ugly to see. Didn’t expect this in the offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Well you don't have to be smart to be an NFL QB. Just look at Terry Bradshaw. Chuck Knoll wanted to kill Bradshaw because he was dumb as a post. They had to simplify the offense for him. Knoll was one of the first HC's to come up with the plays on a wristband because of Bradshaw's stupidity. I was referring to football IQ. You don't question a QB with as many rings as TB has was not football smart, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msena88 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I've just been surprised so many people are just now realizing the dude is insanely cocky, thinks he's always "misunderstood". This quote was also used to describe Jachai but he doesnt have issues, he IS the issue. With that said I do think he has talent and can play in this league, but he needed to go to a team that would tell him to stfu and tone it down. The browns who are always starved for attention were one of the worst possible landing spots, I felt the same way about the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: We picked the right Quarterback. Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Ah, glad I found a thread where we can discuss Baker Mayfield. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said: He is not a victim of anything that he didn't bring upon himself. I don't disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Part of this is Baker's own doing, He was cocky as hell in the offseason and he didn't have to accept every offer to do a TV commercial. He should have been in the film room studying, like Sam. Totally agree. This is why I have always argued that Baker's biggest issue is his personality/demeanor/questionable maturity. He definitely likes the center of attention and I'm not sure he is quite good enough to handle everything that comes with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Legend Killa7 said: I think everyone is piling on Baker right now. I have posted on this topic many a time: I wanted Sam, I'm glad we got Sam, but I was prepared to get Baker in the draft last year. This is exactly how I felt. I had Sam as the top QB and Baker as the next best QB in that draft and nothing I have seen has changed that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just here waiting for this to turn into another “Baker isn’t overrated” fan club...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Ah, glad I found a thread where we can discuss Baker Mayfield. Yeah, exactly, let's talk about Baker in every single thread... Sheesh... To get back on topic, to talk about OUR quarterback, here are some of Tiki's comments from the video: - when the pocket breaks down, Sam is calm, poised, looking downfield, side stepping the rush. He's not trying to be an athlete and run, he's trying to make the pass. (This is where the "anti-Baker" comment came from.) - "His wide receivers are ... good .... But it's not like any of them are making the pro bowl!" Sam is making everyone around him better. - He also said, pretty much - Dak is no Darnold. Dak struggled without his top-shelf receivers, while for Darnold that's his normal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 ...and here we go again with the JN/ Mayfield obsession. Even the Monday after the Jets first win of the season, the two most popular threads were related to him. That's why Madison Ave. loves him. It doesn't matter whether people love him or hate him. Whether he plays good or bad, people just can't get enough Mayfield talk, both here and throughout the League. It's amazing the ability he has to dominate a news cycle, it's very similar to a certain political figure. People can't wait to hear and see what he does next, then react to it. That's star power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 ...and here we go again with the JN/ Mayfield obsession. Even the Monday after the Jets first win of the season, the two most popular threads were related to him. That's why Madison Ave. loves him. It doesn't matter whether people love him or hate him. Whether he plays good or bad, people just can't get enough Mayfield talk, both here and throughout the League. It's amazing the ability he has to dominate a news cycle, similar to a certain political figure. People can't wait to hear and see what he does next, then react to it. That's star power. Even though he plays in the no man's land called Cleveland, in less then two seasons he has become an "above the title" headliner in the NFL. So it begins, although later than I thought........ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 yeah. 1. he's good 2. he's likable 3. **** baker--cock sucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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