Popular Post CTJetsFan Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Went back and watched the game to see how Edoga did after reading that Lawrence had no hits on Sam. We can kill Macc for a lot of things, but this may turn out to be one of his best picks (besides Sam). This kid has GREAT feet and can get to the 2nd level faster than most OTs. In watching him, there were no "WTF is he doing?" plays you'd expect from a rookie. I'd say maybe 4 or 5 snaps where he "could've done a little better". Many times he'd mirror Lawrence deep and Sam would have the presence to step up a 1/2 step and all was well. What was also interesting was that it wasn't until the last drive did they line up a TE to his side to give him help. Another observation was that Shell didn't play bad when he came in for Beachum. Had one bad play where he blocked inside and gave up a sack. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the Jets used a FB on one play during the last drive. The FB was - Jonotthan Harrison 16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: Went back and watched the game to see how Edoga did after reading that Lawrence had no hits on Sam. We can kill Macc for a lot of things, but this may turn out to be one of his best picks (besides Sam). This kid has GREAT feet and can get to the 2nd level faster than most OTs. In watching him, there were no "WTF is he doing?" plays you'd expect from a rookie. I'd say maybe 4 or 5 snaps where he "could've done a little better". Many times he'd mirror Lawrence deep and Sam would have the presence to step up a 1/2 step and all was well. What was also interesting was that it wasn't until the last drive did they line up a TE to his side to give him help. Another observation was that Shell didn't play bad when he cam in for Beachum. Had one bad play where he blocked inside and gave up a sack. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the Jets used a FB on one play during the last drive. The FB was - Jonotthan Harrison I'm cautiously optimistic and I'm having flashbacks to another mid-round OT that the Jets took who ended up manning the LT spot for years, Jason Fabini. I remember that Draft and thinking that the Jets waited too long to get an OT. Fabini was rated something like the 6th or 7th OT that year. He ended up starting at LT for several years. If Edoga can grow into a better than average LT (and the Jets have 11 more games to really evaluate this) then that totally changes the calculus for this upcoming Draft IMO. We all want the Jets to hit OLine early and often in the 2020 Draft but not having a blatant NEED at LT really helps. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 He looked very good and has the potential to be a our answer for left or right tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I'm cautiously optimistic and I'm having flashbacks to another mid-round OT that the Jets took who ended up manning the LT spot for years, Jason Fabini. I remember that Draft and thinking that the Jets waited too long to get an OT. Fabini was rated something like the 6th or 7th OT that year. He ended up starting at LT for several years. If Edoga can grow into a better than average LT (and the Jets have 11 more games to really evaluate this) then that totally changes the calculus for this upcoming Draft IMO. We all want the Jets to hit OLine early and often in the 2020 Draft but not having a blatant NEED at LT really helps. For some reason I am thinking that Fabini was a RT, but I get your point. Edoga has been playing on the right side as well and, even with Beachum hurt, I'm not sure I'd move him over mid-season. I don't recall how many reps he might have had at LT during the preseason. It might be best to leave Shell at LT but I'll trust the coaches on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 Not enough has been made of Edoga's game against an elite pass rusher in Lawrence. To shut him out in only his second start was very impressive 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: For some reason I am thinking that Fabini was a RT, but I get your point. Edoga has been playing on the right side as well and, even with Beachum hurt, I'm not sure I'd move him over mid-season. I don't recall how many reps he might have had at LT during the preseason. It might be best to leave Shell at LT but I'll trust the coaches on that. Agreed on Edoga and Shell, although I think Edoga has the better feet to pass protect on the blindside at LT. We'll see what the coaches think but as I said in another thread Edoga, Shell and Alex Lewis might be some key pieces in a rebuild on the OLine, along with Harrison. I could see two of those guys starting and two as high-quality backups. Regarding Fabini, he was mostly LT for the Jets. Looks like he started at RT as a rookie then quickly moved to LT. They also list him as simply a T possibly meaning he ended up playing both. Seemed to transition back to RT and RG at the end of his career before retirement. I just remember him as one of the first examples (to me at least) of a guy being taken in the 4th Round and becoming a good, starting LT. I said to myself, "maybe you actually can find these guys outside of Round 1." Fabini was a staple on the OLine in those Parcells-Groh-Herm years with Testaverde and Pennington, blocking for Curtis Martin. Check out those 5 seasons from 2000 to 2004....never missed a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Agreed on Edoga and Shell, although I think Edoga has the better feet to pass protect on the blindside at LT. We'll see what the coaches think but as I said in another thread Edoga, Shell and Alex Lewis might be some key pieces in a rebuild on the OLine, along with Harrison. I could see two of those guys starting and two as high-quality backups. Regarding Fabini, he was mostly LT for the Jets. Looks like he started at RT as a rookie then quickly moved to LT. They also list him as simply a T possibly meaning he ended up playing both. Seemed to transition back to RT and RG at the end of his career before retirement. I just remember him as one of the first examples (to me at least) of a guy being taken in the 4th Round and becoming a good, starting LT. I said to myself, "maybe you can find these guys outside of Round 1." Fabinin was a staple on the OLine in those Parcells-Groh-Herm years with Testaverde and Pennington, blocking for Curtis Martin. Check out those 5 seasons from 2000 to 2004....never missed a game. I felt the same way about Fabini when he was drafted. No doubt Edoga has the feet/movement for LT. Lewis has shown very well too. Injuries have been his biggest issue thus far in his career. I think Harrison has a role here, but it may be as interior depth. I can see Shell moving to RT if Edoga goes to the left. It'll be nice knowing we have some pieces in place on the line going into the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: Went back and watched the game to see how Edoga did after reading that Lawrence had no hits on Sam. We can kill Macc for a lot of things, but this may turn out to be one of his best picks (besides Sam). This kid has GREAT feet and can get to the 2nd level faster than most OTs. In watching him, there were no "WTF is he doing?" plays you'd expect from a rookie. I'd say maybe 4 or 5 snaps where he "could've done a little better". Many times he'd mirror Lawrence deep and Sam would have the presence to step up a 1/2 step and all was well. What was also interesting was that it wasn't until the last drive did they line up a TE to his side to give him help. Another observation was that Shell didn't play bad when he cam in for Beachum. Had one bad play where he blocked inside and gave up a sack. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the Jets used a FB on one play during the last drive. The FB was - Jonotthan Harrison Well, Chuma developing and being a mainstay at either T position for us will make me feel better about the fact that he is here due to the Bridgewater trade and even though with Teddy we may have won games in the last 3 we lost, long term that is not going to help like Olineman will for our future. We know with Darnold on the team Teddy would have to be a backup and as we see he wants to and should be a starter somwhere else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Good to hear, but the reality is that Sam is going to make a lot of OL look way better than they are. Which is fine. Darnold is as good as it gets when it comes moving around in the pocket to buy an extra split second to find an open WR. There were plenty of plays last week where Darnold made a play that would have been sack for Falk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: Went back and watched the game to see how Edoga did after reading that Lawrence had no hits on Sam. We can kill Macc for a lot of things, but this may turn out to be one of his best picks (besides Sam). This kid has GREAT feet and can get to the 2nd level faster than most OTs. In watching him, there were no "WTF is he doing?" plays you'd expect from a rookie. I'd say maybe 4 or 5 snaps where he "could've done a little better". Many times he'd mirror Lawrence deep and Sam would have the presence to step up a 1/2 step and all was well. What was also interesting was that it wasn't until the last drive did they line up a TE to his side to give him help. Another observation was that Shell didn't play bad when he cam in for Beachum. Had one bad play where he blocked inside and gave up a sack. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the Jets used a FB on one play during the last drive. The FB was - Jonotthan Harrison if that's the case (and we sure hope it is) then mac's last draft may turn out to be pretty good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: Went back and watched the game to see how Edoga did after reading that Lawrence had no hits on Sam. We can kill Macc for a lot of things, but this may turn out to be one of his best picks (besides Sam). This kid has GREAT feet and can get to the 2nd level faster than most OTs. In watching him, there were no "WTF is he doing?" plays you'd expect from a rookie. I'd say maybe 4 or 5 snaps where he "could've done a little better". Many times he'd mirror Lawrence deep and Sam would have the presence to step up a 1/2 step and all was well. What was also interesting was that it wasn't until the last drive did they line up a TE to his side to give him help. Another observation was that Shell didn't play bad when he cam in for Beachum. Had one bad play where he blocked inside and gave up a sack. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the Jets used a FB on one play during the last drive. The FB was - Jonotthan Harrison Now THIS is the kind of stuff I like to see! Let's hope this kid works out!! and what is the deal with Harrison? he should be playing for Kalil IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Good to hear, but the reality is that Sam is going to make a lot of OL look way better than they are. Which is fine. Darnold is as good as it gets when it comes moving around in the pocket to buy an extra split second to find an open WR. There were plenty of plays last week where Darnold made a play that would have been sack for Falk. His pocket presence/sense/awareness reminds me of Big Ben. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: I'm cautiously optimistic this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: There were plenty of plays last week where Darnold made a play that would have been sack for Falk. Falk hung onto the ball like it was his 02 tank and he was 300 ft beneath the sea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The fact that he is playing a lot and not getting eaten alive in his 1st year is good. I always said MacCagnan was shrewd at picking olineman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scoop24 Posted October 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2019 Seems to be coming along well. Hopefully he continues to trend up 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/147687-edoga/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He is looking like a good pass-blocker. Should they move him to LT until Beachum is back? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Seems to be coming along well. Hopefully he continues to trend up Interesting that he is showing some pretty good cut ups from the Eagles game. Consensus was that he had a pretty rough first game. Would be great to know we have one or two slots on the OL nailed down heading into next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 down.....4 to go! #DraftOLine 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: 1 down.....4 to go! #DraftOLine If we can extend Lewis before the end of the season, maybe we have 2 down; 3 to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Lith said: If we can extend Lewis before the end of the season, maybe we have 2 down; 3 to go. Agree. Did you hear Gase's presser today? He spent 1-2 minutes talking about how much he likes Lewis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 What team did we sign him from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, jetstream23 said: Agree. Did you hear Gase's presser today? He spent 1-2 minutes talking about how much he likes Lewis. Had it going on my app on the phone at work, but then someone called me and I missed it. Folks I work with should know by now to leave me alone while Gase is speaking or any other Jets news is breaking. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: What team did we sign him from? Lewis? He was with the Ravens. Traded a 7 for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: What team did we sign him from? Alex Lewis Ravens guy is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Lith said: Lewis? He was with the Ravens. Edoga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, The Crusher said: Edoga. USC Trojans we drafted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, The Crusher said: Edoga. Drafted out of USC. Thanks, Macc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: USC Trojans That’s a college team. That would would meam we drafted O line. Haha, you ass. Seriously what team? 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, The Crusher said: That’s a college team. That would would meam we drafted O line. Haha, you ass. Seriously what team? First OL in the draft since 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 If I remember correctly, I think PFF had him as the best pass-blocking tackle in the country last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 If we would have given mac 5 more years he could have rebuilt the oline! (Then 5 more for olbs, 5 more for Wra, 5 more for CBs) 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: That’s a college team. That would would meam we drafted O line. Haha, you ass. Seriously what team? USC Trojans drafted by the NY Jets. Hey no name calling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lith said: Drafted out of USC. Thanks, Macc. Yeah. Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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