SAR I Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Maxman said: I'm so tired today. That game was painful. Talk about digging a big hole for themselves. No worries. If we don't win it this year we know we'll win it next year. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, SAR I said: No worries. If we don't win it this year we know we'll win it next year. SAR I Hey wait, I thought this was about the Yankees. That's a famous Met quote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, SAR I said: No worries. If we don't win it this year we know we'll win it next year. SAR I Strangely reminiscent in what yankee fans have been saying for years. Not winning anything without starting pitching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, prime21 said: Hey wait, I thought this was about the Yankees. That's a famous Met quote. If the Yankees had the Mets starting pitching they walk through the playoffs and WS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTheJohnsons Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 hours ago, HessStation said: Cole and Hamels next year 10 hours ago, HessStation said: Maybe take a flyer on Felix Hernandez and see if he can rejuvenate his career too 10 hours ago, King P said: If Strasburg opts out, I want the Yanks to back up the brinks truck for him 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Maybe Wheeler. Yankees like ex Mets 20 minutes ago, SAR I said: No worries. If we don't win it this year we know we'll win it next year. SAR I Yankees win 103 games, lets go out and spend another 3/4 of a billion on FA's so we can win 142 and have no chance of losing..... I take back what I said, Yankees fans are actually worse than Pats fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JetFaninMI said: Wouldn't it be something if the Yanks lose Tonite and Saturday morning the Mets hire Girardi? That would burn some Yankmee Fans azzes. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Couldn't resist. Lol. Nothing burns my ass regarding the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, FireTheJohnsons said: Yankees win 103 games, lets go out and spend another 3/4 of a billion on FA's so we can win 142 and have no chance of losing..... I take back what I said, Yankees fans are actually worse than Pats fans. Pitching in the playoffs is way more important than in the regular season. You can win 103 games with hitting and half assed starting pitching. And lose in the playoffs. Good pitching stops good hitting. Especially when you only need 3 starters to dominate. Its been proven over and over again. Oh and I'm not a Yankees fan. Probably why I understand the concept while Cashman doesnt seem to get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTheJohnsons Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Pitching in the playoffs is way more important than in the regular season. You can win 103 games with hitting and half assed starting pitching. And lose in the playoffs. Good pitching stops good hitting. Especially when you only need 3 starters to dominate. Its been proven over and over again. Oh and I'm not a Yankees fan. Probably why I understand the concept while Cashman doesnt seem to get it Of course it does, but my point was not about whether or not the Yankees have pitching. My point was the Yankees were good enough to win 103 games this year, and Yankees fans want to go out and add another 1B in contracts. Like it or not, its really f'ng obnoxious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, FireTheJohnsons said: Of course it does, but my point was not about whether or not the Yankees have pitching. My point was the Yankees were good enough to win 103 games this year, and Yankees fans want to go out and add another 1B in contracts. Like it or not, its really f'ng obnoxious. Its what yankee fans do, what they complain about, need more all stars, spend some more. Then tell you that they dont buy titles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Its what yankee fans do, what they complain about, need more all stars, spend some more. Then tell you that they dont buy titles Stanton and Encarcion have been complete failures neither helping this team in the post season. Hicks is doing nothing Maybin should be playing. Boone has made some questionable decisions against Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, FireTheJohnsons said: Of course it does, but my point was not about whether or not the Yankees have pitching. My point was the Yankees were good enough to win 103 games this year, and Yankees fans want to go out and add another 1B in contracts. Like it or not, its really f'ng obnoxious. How is it obnoxious? All we want is for the team to improve and if it means spending big money then so be it. Simply utilizing our resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, FireTheJohnsons said: Yankees win 103 games, lets go out and spend another 3/4 of a billion on FA's so we can win 142 and have no chance of losing..... I take back what I said, Yankees fans are actually worse than Pats fans. I’m just saying they need an ace and some more lefty hitters or they’re never gonna get over the hump. Hamels and Hernandez aren’t really stars anymore. They also may need to trade some of the young talent/hitters for a SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 utilize... ffs...just say use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yankees can mash the ball but over the past few years teams like Houston and Boston have been able to out hit us because they have "hitters" who can hit hr's as well. Other than Torres and DJ, the YAnks are just all or nothing batters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, FlightBoyz said: The Yanks had the opportunities to get runs but couldn't capitalize unfortunately. Get them tonight. Verlander is beatable. Lets Gooo! Greinke was more beatable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, SAR I said: No worries. If we don't win it this year we know we'll win it next year. SAR I Not allowed to post in 2019 the same thing you posted in 2018. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Stanton and Encarcion have been complete failures neither helping this team in the post season. Hicks is doing nothing Maybin should be playing. Boone has made some questionable decisions against Houston. This is typical overreaction nonsense. Stanton had possibly the best at bat they had this post season on Saturday night. He's dinged. In 10 plate appearances, Hicks has a hit and 4 walks, which is pretty good when you consider how bad everyone has been hitting. If you want to criticize Boone it is with the staff. I wouldn't have gone to Happ so quick on Sunday. I don't think the Astros are particularly worried about lefties. Sanchez and Encarnacion have been pretty bad, but you don't want to sit them because when they got hot they can carry you. My fear all along has been the long ball/strike out nature of the team makes it tougher to get rid of killer starters and they haven't exactly been feasting on the Astros bullpen. The check swing punch out of Torres was a back breaker. Lemahieu not making those two plays really hurt too. They made the tough plays in game one. They haven't made as many since, or maybe there have just been so many more of them. Bottom line: This Astros team is no joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Stanton and Encarcion have been complete failures neither helping this team in the post season. Hicks is doing nothing Maybin should be playing. Boone has made some questionable decisions against Houston. And Yankee fans are booing Stanton for being hurt. Its the stars you should be complaining about, not the Hicks and Maybins of the Yanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Pitching > Batting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Actually, on 2nd thought, I wouldn't even criticize the pitching moves so much as the roster. They didn't keep any matchup options and they don't really have any hitters on the bench. No backup infielders, and they can't play small by pinch running. Having 100 pitchers is nice, but excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: This is typical overreaction nonsense. Stanton had possibly the best at bat they had this post season on Saturday night. He's dinged. In 10 plate appearances, Hicks has a hit and 4 walks, which is pretty good when you consider how bad everyone has been hitting. If you want to criticize Boone it is with the staff. I wouldn't have gone to Happ so quick on Sunday. I don't think the Astros are particularly worried about lefties. Sanchez and Encarnacion have been pretty bad, but you don't want to sit them because when they got hot they can carry you. My fear all along has been the long ball/strike out nature of the team makes it tougher to get rid of killer starters and they haven't exactly been feasting on the Astros bullpen. The check swing punch out of Torres was a back breaker. Lemahieu not making those two plays really hurt too. They made the tough plays in game one. They haven't made as many since, or maybe there have just been so many more of them. Bottom line: This Astros team is no joke. 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And Yankee fans are booing Stanton for being hurt. Its the stars you should be complaining about, not the Hicks and Maybins of the Yanks Nothing else matters but wining the BIG BATS have gone to sleep since the first game. I want Maybin in the lineup instead of Hicks. Cashman failed in building the pitching staff CC Sabathia was done before the season ended, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The team has no soul. They have no leaders to rally them. Aaron Judge has turned out to be just above average, he’s not the next Jeter to lead the players. They look like a lot of hired guns who get paid a sh*t ton of money but have no allegiance to a team concept. Everyone is up their trying to hit a home run for himself. They don’t play as a team. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Apache 51 said: Nothing burns my ass regarding the Yankees. Somehow I doubt that but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snell41 said: The team has no soul. They have no leaders to rally them. Aaron Judge has turned out to be just above average, he’s not the next Jeter to lead the players. They look like a lot of hired guns who get paid a sh*t ton of money but have no allegiance to a team concept. Everyone is up their trying to hit a home run for himself. They don’t play as a team. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Exactly there are no leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 52 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Greinke was more beatable. I agree. Yanks bats just couldn't get it going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Exactly there are no leaders. They have leaders, the problem is that they are the old school. Gardner and CC are the club house leaders and now someone will have to step up in that role. Come next year they will continue to have "faces of the team" like Judge and Gleyber but no leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Not a lot of fight to this team however the Astros are just better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not a lot of fight to this team however the Astros are just better. Unfortunately I agree. I was worried that the Yankees would win with a team of replacements then the healthy guys gets back and they don't do as well. Ford should be on this roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The Yankees have been built to win a lot of games during the regular season by bludgeoning teams but have not had the starting pitching to carry them through the playoffs. Cashman's biggest failure has been his inability to address this year after year. As a Mets fan, watching the slow and inevitable death of the Yankees always makes me happy and before anyone can say it, YES, that's all I've had to hang my hat on for a while. I own it and don't care. Perhaps Cashman can watch the 2020 Mets formula and write a few things down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not a lot of fight to this team however the Astros are just better. Sp's of course and they also have good hitters. When you watch the Yankees, outside of DJ and perhaps Torres, every batter at the plate you kind of expect a HR or a K HR because that's pretty much what the lineup consists of. Pitching in the post season will expose every batters weakness. Yopu have a problem with a breaking ball? That's what your going to keep seeing until you hit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: The Yankees have been built to win a lot of games during the regular season by bludgeoning teams but have not had the starting pitching to carry them through the playoffs. Cashman's biggest failure has been his inability to address this year after year. As a Mets fan, watching the slow and inevitable death of the Yankees always makes me happy and before anyone can say it, YES, that's all I've had to hang my hat on for a while. I own it and don't care. Perhaps Cashman can watch the 2020 Mets formula and write a few things down. Knicks fan too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, playtowinthegame said: Knicks fan too? Yes......Mets / Jets / Knicks / Rangers.......my father really did me no favors by brainwashing me into rooting for a bunch of losers (for the most part). Thanks for nothing, Dad! P.S. I've paid it forward and have indoctrinated my son into the misery. He's a freshman at Penn State this year so at least I can hang my hat on them for a while. Actually going to the PSU - Michigan game tomorrow. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, FireTheJohnsons said: Yankees win 103 games, lets go out and spend another 3/4 of a billion on FA's so we can win 142 and have no chance of losing..... I take back what I said, Yankees fans are actually worse than Pats fans. 2 hours ago, FireTheJohnsons said: Of course it does, but my point was not about whether or not the Yankees have pitching. My point was the Yankees were good enough to win 103 games this year, and Yankees fans want to go out and add another 1B in contracts. Like it or not, its really f'ng obnoxious. Yes, because the Yankees are the only team to spend money like that ? News flash: all the teams that win these days have a high payroll. Yankees don't even have the highest payroll in baseball. The Red Sox and Cubs are currently spending more of us! Oh and the Nationals are Top 10 in payroll as well as Houston. But yet let's get mad at the Yankees for spending money. So stupid lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Their were a couple of starting pitchers available at the deadline. The Yankees had the assets to make a move on one or two of them, including the guy they lost to last night. They chose to stand pat and that could be their downfall....who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 wth? https://www.nj.com/yankees/2019/10/chaos-crude-yankees-fans-taunt-astros-zack-greinke-before-alcs-game-4.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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