Jetsfan80 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Imagine where we'd be without the top Safety duo in the NFL the last 2+ seasons. Probably 8-29 instead of 10-27. The horror! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Imagine where we'd be without the top Safety duo in the NFL the last 2+ seasons. Probably 8-29 instead of 10-27. The horror! It's like putting a $10K sound system in a 1992 Subaru Impreza 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: It's like putting a $10K sound system in a 1992 Subaru Impreza That may sell at a Barrett-Jackson auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Imagine where we'd be without the top Safety duo in the NFL the last 2+ seasons. Probably 8-29 instead of 10-27. The horror! Giants have the best RB. Rams have the best DT. Bears have the best pass rusher. Jags had the best CB. Texans had the best WR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, HessStation said: Giants have the best RB. Rams have the best DT. Bears have the best pass rusher. Jags had the best CB. Texans had the best WR. Rams went to the Super Bowl last year. Texans and Bears both made the playoffs last year. Jaguars made the AFC Title game just 2 years ago with Blake Bortles at QB. And I was one of the many on here saying you don't draft a RB at 2 like the Giants did. They should have traded down. I said that then and say that now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Rams went to the Super Bowl last year. Texans and Bears both made the playoffs last year. Jaguars made the AFC Title game just 2 years ago with Blake Bortles at QB. And I was one of the many on here saying you don't draft a RB at 2 like the Giants did. They should have traded down. I said that then and say that now. Its a ass backwards defense of a ridiculous theory that the reason the team didnt win was because of the Pro Bowl S not named Mahomes. How many threads can the Adams whiners ruin with the same story? Hes here and hes not going anywhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Rams went to the Super Bowl last year. Texans and Bears both made the playoffs last year. Jaguars made the AFC Title game just 2 years ago with Blake Bortles at QB. And I was one of the many on here saying you don't draft a RB at 2 like the Giants did. They should have traded down. I said that then and say that now. No championships though and to be fair those teams are just better all around. I’m sprtA with you sorta not with your perspective. I get Safety isnt quite as important as other positions but there’s no sense pissing on the success. in fact if you look through out history many of the best teams always had a premium safety. Lott, Palamalu, Lynch Harrison, Earl Thomas, etc etc. There’s a middle ground here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Imagine where we'd be without the top Safety duo in the NFL the last 2+ seasons. Probably 8-29 instead of 10-27. The horror! Be able to read a post about the D or their play without the same ridiculous story. Who needs good players, we're Jets fans, we know how little it makes a difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: No championships though and to be fair those teams are just better all around. I’m sprtA with you sorta not with your perspective. I get Safety isnt quite as important as other positions but there’s no sense pissing on the success. in fact if you look through out history many of the best teams always had a premium safety. Lott, Palamalu, Lynch Harrison, Earl Thomas, etc etc. There’s a middle ground here Neither Adams nor Maye are in that category of Safety though. Not really even close. People love using PFF as a guide to determine how good Adams is. Twice, Kerry Rhodes had better seasons than Adams per PFF. And "no championships" for those other teams would be an argument if the Jets were remotely competitive or the defense was any good since 2017. It hasn't been. Per FO we've been below average the last 2+ seasons. The Bears had an elite defense last year almost entirely because of one player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: It's like putting a $10K sound system in a 1992 Subaru Impreza But I would absolutely do this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, EdReed22 said: Congrats put him and Mays in the hall of fame. I never seen any game winning interceptions. Forced fumble sacks. Just tackles. Where were they and their performance before Darnold came back. Great role players. Only jets fans make them into all stars. Oy ******* vey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 This is why we can't have nice things 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said: This is why we can't have nice things Or, maybe the things we think are really nice aren't so nice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Or, maybe the things we think are really nice aren't so nice? Ok, Shane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Neither Adams nor Maye are in that category of Safety though. Not really even close. People love using PFF as a guide to determine how good Adams is. Twice, Kerry Rhodes had better seasons than Adams per PFF. And "no championships" for those other teams would be an argument if the Jets were remotely competitive or the defense was any good since 2017. It hasn't been. Per FO we've been below average the last 2+ seasons. The Bears had an elite defense last year almost entirely because of one player. Not true to say, they’re in their 3rd year And not surrounded by nearly the talent. And already considered one of the best tandems. Bears went from a good defense to great w Mack. Get it, the Jets still need an edge who wasn’t their btw within those picks of that draft. Part of the bears defensive success is Jackson and Clinton Dix. I’ll believe you that you looked it up, but Kerry Rhodes was actually one of the better Safeties in football for about two seasons too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 hours ago, SpartanJet said: Boy with the high draft capital spent and the importance of safeties I'm sure there must have been an avalanche of winning since they arrived. Seriously, enough! We get it. Maccagnan was an awful GM. Adams and Maye didn't draft themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Its a total team game. Last week the Jets do not win with out Darnold. Last week the Jets do not win without Maye and Adams. Exactly!I can't believe the amount of clueless, ignorant fans that do not realize it takes a team to achieve a team goal, like winning a game. It's like they have never been part of a team before and understand this simple concept. Instead they'd rather bash our better players for not carrying the rest of the team to a win like this is the NBA or something.Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 7 hours ago, CTM said: I havent watched enough non jet games to even comment. This is progress in a Mulvanian kind of way. You finally admit you have no idea what the hell you're talking about or that your opinion is based on any kind of facts. Kudos for freely admitting you're clueless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Pac said: This is progress in a Mulvanian kind of way. You finally admit you have no idea what the hell you're talking about or that your opinion is based on any kind of facts. Kudos for freely admitting you're clueless. Meh, I've said that all along. I don't believe the video creator is studying tape on all of the safety tandems in the NFL either which is why I was mocking his conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 hours ago, HessStation said: Nope it’s a thing you ruthless bastard https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2139584-10-most-talented-safety-tandems-in-the-nfl.amp.html I would argue that a duo and a tandem might not be the same thing. Would Batman & Robin have been as dynamic as a tandem? Probably. But the moral of the story is you schlemiels are actually getting boners over this stupid sh*t. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: You mean like best RB duo? CB duo? LB duo? Yeah, did you ever feel the need to ask because, you know, it's stupid to have good S's. Or it's because other teams haven't had a duo this good? I would play your rhetorical question game but then you’re gonna call me names and I don’t like it when people are mean to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Would Batman & Robin have been as dynamic as a tandem? I don’t feel like they we’re a tandem bc it was more of a teacher/apprentice relationship and a tandem should be two equal parties imo. Also, it was creepy to dress your apprentice in green booty shorts and a yellow cape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: I don’t feel like they we’re a tandem bc it was more of a teacher/apprentice relationship and a tandem should be two equal parties imo. Also, it was creepy to dress your apprentice in green booty shorts and a yellow cape. So do we have a tandem or a duo? And which one wears the booty shorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Its a ass backwards defense of a ridiculous theory that the reason the team didnt win was because of the Pro Bowl S not named Mahomes. How many threads can the Adams whiners ruin with the same story? Hes here and hes not going anywhere. Or the Pro Bowl safety not named Watson. For the last time you NEED a QB as desperately as his team did and not ONE but TWO are available YOU DO NOT PICK A FRICKIN' SAFETY. Even you can understand that right? Yeah on second thought probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: So do we have a tandem or a duo? And which one wears the booty shorts? Whichever one is better at twerking. So Jamal, obvi 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I don’t feel like they we’re a tandem bc it was more of a teacher/apprentice relationship and a tandem should be two equal parties imo. Also, it was creepy to dress your apprentice in green booty shorts and a yellow cape. I have no idea why I posted this IN THIS THREAD but it makes as much sense as taking a safety over a badly needed QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: I have no idea why I posted this IN THIS THREAD but it makes as much sense as taking a safety over a badly needed QB. Now that I think about it, the Adam West/Burt Ward incarnation was definitely teacher/apprentice. But the Kilmer-Clooney/Chris O’Donnell version was more of a duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Or the Pro Bowl safety not named Watson. For the last time you NEED a QB as desperately as his team did and not ONE but TWO are available YOU DO NOT PICK A FRICKIN' SAFETY. Even you can understand that right? Yeah on second thought probably not.We SHOULD have take a Qb over a safety. We didn’t, so why is it still an issue to talk about? We are extremely lucky to be given a second chance and got Sam. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: I would argue that a duo and a tandem might not be the same thing. Would Batman & Robin have been as dynamic as a tandem? Probably. But the moral of the story is you schlemiels are actually getting boners over this stupid sh*t. Rock hard ftw* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: I don’t feel like they we’re a tandem bc it was more of a teacher/apprentice relationship and a tandem should be two equal parties imo. Also, it was creepy to dress your apprentice in green booty shorts and a yellow cape. Homophobe^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 22 hours ago, SpartanJet said: Boy with the high draft capital spent and the importance of safeties I'm sure there must have been an avalanche of winning since they arrived. Those two alone are not going to help the Jets win. It takes a team and the Jets just don't have one. The expectations being placed on those two are absurd and unreasonable. Once the Jets get a more formative player roster, there will come a time when they should be evaluated for their true effectiveness helping the team win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 10:38 AM, SpartanJet said: Are you really going to make the case that safety = QB in terms of importance in the NFL? Safety first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Those two alone are not going to help the Jets win. It takes a team and the Jets just don't have one. The expectations being placed on those two are absurd and unreasonable. Once the Jets get a more formative player roster, there will come a time when they should be evaluated for their true effectiveness helping the team win. We can look at last week as an example. Plus the rest of this season. They did just beat the NFC East leaders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 10:49 AM, RutgersJetFan said: Honest question: Did any of you ever hear of the phrase “best safety duo” before the Jets had these two guys? Because it feels like something we made up in order to justify blowing a draft on safeties. Who are we trying to justify the draft for? This is nonsense. We didn't blow a draft on Safeties. We used two high draft choices that yielded us the very best Safety (arguably) in the league today and a pretty good Safety although oft injured. They raised the all around talent level on this defense. You know....more talent leads to more wins and more wins leads to a better chance at winning a SB? It's not rocket science. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mike135 said: We can look at last week as an example. Plus the rest of this season. They did just beat the NFC East leaders. Not sure what you're saying? Adams and Maye did not beat the Cowboys alone. They played GREAT along with a defense that put together it's best performance in probably more than a year along with an offense energized by finally getting their unquestioned leader back. The QB raised the level of talent of everyone on that offense like any true leader does. Now people can try to split hairs about the above all they'd like but at the end of the day that is 100% truth about last Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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