Philc1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skeptable said: He was only a top qb with Kyle Shanahan sure he always produce stats but he has the best WR Corp in the game... And it's been that way for a long time... He should be running big stats every year... But he has always been a mediocre QB. But was he better than Geno? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Best WRs in the game... If he didn't put up those numbers he would go from mediocre to terrible. Not sure your obsession with Matt Ryan is... Maybe you are a BC fan? ND fan, I only watch BC if there’s a player I want the Jets to take or not take. He’s a top QB on every list except some people here and was the MVP in 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, New York Mick said: ND fan, I only watch BC if there’s a player I want the Jets to take or not take. He’s a top QB on every list except some people here and was the MVP in 2016. Ryan has always been good, not great He’s good at audibling protection, splitting safeties and throwing fade routes with touch. Is he limited by a not great arm? Sure. I also think at times he can be mentally weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: ND fan, I only watch BC if there’s a player I want the Jets to take or not take. He’s a top QB on every list except some people here and was the MVP in 2016. OK... I have watched a lot of Matt Ryan... Fantasy football interest, living in BC area, and such, throughout the years... His stats are way overblown due to his wrs and his MVP should be forwarded to the true MVP which was KS.... I know you aren't going to agree by the arguments you have made... Just my opinion... But look at his WRs throughout the years tell me why he shouldn't have those numbers On another note I too am a fan of the fighting Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Philc1 said: We passed on Marrone and Frank Reich for Bowles. He set us back huge time Frank Reich I completely agree with. Marrone sucks just as bad as Bowles and Quinn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: The Falcons lost because they took their foot off the pedal. If they would have kept scoring they would have won. They went conservative and got burned. IMO they got what they deserved. Actually not true. They needed to be more conservative. Run the ball and get the FG instead of the sack, and then snap every play after that with literally 1-2 seconds left and there just isnt time for NE to come back. Worst managed lead ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Actually not true. They needed to be more conservative. Run the ball and get the FG instead of the sack, and then snap every play after that with literally 1-2 seconds left and there just isnt time for NE to come back. Worst managed lead ever. LOL. Playing to lose. That is what that describes. You get up 45-3 THEN you play that way in the 4th qtr. You never take your foot off the gas. You have them by the throat you keep smacking them until their will is gone and they submit. You NEVER give them an inch or a hope they can get back in the game. It's called killer instinct, which you obviously don't have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: ND fan, I only watch BC if there’s a player I want the Jets to take or not take. He’s a top QB on every list except some people here and was the MVP in 2016. The biggest issue with Ryan is that he doesn't make players around him better which separates good QBs from great QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: 28-3. Mother effer gave NE a ring Wrong! The refs gave them that RING. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: The Falcons lost because they took their foot off the pedal. If they would have kept scoring they would have won. They went conservative and got burned. IMO they got what they deserved. they played prevent defense. they deserve what they got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Skeptable said: The biggest issue with Ryan is that he doesn't make players around him better which separates good QBs from great QBs I agree he’s not great but still upper part of top 10. I would put him in the second tier with Phillips and Big Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don’t watch any falcons football but to me that looks like a pretty talented roster. I don’t know how you continue to suck so bad. They need a new identity on the coaching side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: LOL. Playing to lose. That is what that describes. You get up 45-3 THEN you play that way in the 4th qtr. You never take your foot off the gas. You have them by the throat you keep smacking them until their will is gone and they submit. You NEVER give them an inch or a hope they can get back in the game. It's called killer instinct, which you obviously don't have. Not true, I definitely feel teams in most situations need to stay super aggressive but not in that super bowl. They needed to just kill the clock like Parcells used to do and there was literally no way for NE to come back. Each situation is different. Last Sunday as an example if Gase had gone conservative like Bowles always did we would have lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm not great at evaluating coaches... It certainly seems like Quinn has lost his way. But man, their OL is awful... It's much worse than others. That team has a decent amount of talent but they can't do anything on offense with that line. I really think it's bringing down the entire team way more than people are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Green DNA said: Frank Reich I completely agree with. Marrone sucks just as bad as Bowles and Quinn. I remember Reich they interviewed and being excited about it because he was a player here and worked with Rivers as a qb coach in San Diego Colts are 4-2 without Andrew Luck if they make the playoffs he has to win coach of the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, DMan77 said: I'm not great at evaluating coaches... It certainly seems like Quinn has lost his way. But man, their OL is awful... It's much worse than others. That team has a decent amount of talent but they can't do anything on offense with that line. I really think it's bringing down the entire team way more than people are talking about. Quinn was never a great head coach he marginally improved the falcons D only initially and got one really good year out of Vic Beasley who looks like a one year wonder Quinn is not as good as Rex as a defensive head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, johnnysd said: Not true, I definitely feel teams in most situations need to stay super aggressive but not in that super bowl. They needed to just kill the clock like Parcells used to do and there was literally no way for NE to come back. Each situation is different. Last Sunday as an example if Gase had gone conservative like Bowles always did we would have lost. No it is true. You run it up and break their backs. Then you can be conservative. If you're up by 40 points with 5 minutes to play then you can go conservative. Otherwise you wind up losing it like the Falcons did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, New York Mick said: I agree he’s not great but still upper part of top 10. I would put him in the second tier with Phillips and Big Ben. Big Ben was way better and it's not close... Although I won't agree in the end Ben Rapeburger is a HOFer... Rivers is a decent comparison but I still think he is better then Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 21 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: 28-3. Mother effer gave NE a ring him and matty choke 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: I don’t watch any falcons football but to me that looks like a pretty talented roster. I don’t know how you continue to suck so bad. They need a new identity on the coaching side of things. Julio Jones' fault... he's not good enough to be a #1, doenst EXPLODE outta his breaks... et cet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Quinn > Bowles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 22 hours ago, T0mShane said: The Super Bowl run was more about Kyle Shanahan propping up Matt Ryan than anything Quinn did. This. Shanahan turned Ryan into an MVP, and is now turning the 9ers into a juggernaut. The Falcons began to collapse as soon as he left. Quinn was never the guy who made that work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Skeptable said: Big Ben was way better and it's not close... Although I won't agree in the end Ben Rapeburger is a HOFer... Rivers is a decent comparison but I still think he is better then Ryan I would go Ben, Ryan the Rivers. Since Quinn has been coach (2015) Ryan has averaged around 300 yards a game, 2 TDs and 3/4 an int a game. His ints are to high but the rest is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I would go Ben, Ryan the Rivers. Since Quinn has been coach (2015) Ryan has averaged around 300 yards a game, 2 TDs and 3/4 an int a game. His ints are to high but the rest is good. Julio, Sanu, Ridley, and before that Coleman and Freeman when they were good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Julio, Sanu, Ridley, and before that Coleman and Freeman when they were good Ben has great players around him as well and one of the best receiving backs ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 12:20 AM, Philc1 said: We passed on Marrone and Frank Reich for Bowles. He set us back huge time Fast forward a couple of months and Marrone is about to get fired and Frank Reich doesn't look so smart without Luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 5:13 PM, T0mShane said: The Super Bowl run was more about Kyle Shanahan propping up Matt Ryan than anything Quinn did. Ryan has thrown for over 50 thousand yards with a QBR of over 94% I dont thing that was all Shanahan so I would say they worked well together but give the qb some sort credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 6:31 PM, New York Mick said: I would go Ben, Ryan the Rivers. Since Quinn has been coach (2015) Ryan has averaged around 300 yards a game, 2 TDs and 3/4 an int a game. His ints are to high but the rest is good. that is not true he has not thrown 3 to 4 interceptions a game . Last yr he threw 35 tds to 7 interceptiosn this yr 24 to 12, look them up yourself. Matt has been very good the issues are not all him https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=U501DF&PC=U501&q=Matt+Ryan+Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, rammagen said: Ryan has thrown for over 50 thousand yards with a QBR of over 94% I dont thing that was all Shanahan so I would say they worked well together but give the qb some sort credit Matt Ryan sucks. Total mush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Atlanta has always been and up and down franchise and has shown flashes. Oline, Dline problems throughout their existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Matt Ryan sucks. Total mush. The Curtis Martin of QB’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 8:16 AM, T0mShane said: Matt Ryan sucks. Total mush. there goes your credibility. I wish we had him sucking as bad as he does for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 10:33 AM, DMan77 said: I'm not great at evaluating coaches... It certainly seems like Quinn has lost his way. But man, their OL is awful... It's much worse than others. That team has a decent amount of talent but they can't do anything on offense with that line. I really think it's bringing down the entire team way more than people are talking about. This is why the Jets need to draft OL - there's going to be such a run on FA OL that the Jets will be struggling to find competent help there. Salaries for FA OL will be through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 8:16 AM, T0mShane said: Matt Ryan sucks. Total mush. We were totally better off staying at #6, drafting Gholston, and then Sanchez a year later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 7:09 PM, Skeptable said: Julio, Sanu, Ridley, and before that Coleman and Freeman when they were good Michael Turner, Roddy White, Harry Douglas. Guy is still excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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