Mastenpark Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I know some you guys probability think I am a troll. In all honestly I just want my Bills to be relevant again and to have a Franchise QB. At the end of the day Jets fans just want to the same for their team. We can debate about what 2nd year QB is better yada, yada, but I can say while I do take joy in the Jets losing what happened to Darnold against the PATS kinda hurt just a little. With that being said the Patriots use cover 0 alot against QB's got me wondering why this defense is so hard to beat so a youtube video away a came across a video on some explaination on how to beat cover 0 or at a minimum what should be going through a QB/Playcaller mind on how to beat it. I want our QB's to be able to eat this type of coverage up in the future. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Pats gonna keep zero blitzing until the Jets make them pay. Bill Belichick taught me how to beat zero blitz in the 2005 playoffs. Anybody wanna know how? If the defense blitzes the FS, they have the offense outnumber. So, there will be a free runner at the QB. The QB only has much time as it takes for the unblocked man to get to him (less than 2 seconds) which eliminates all but quick routes or goes. Max pro doesn't work because.. the offense is still outnumbered. In '05 Bill tried to beat it by motioning the slot WR across the formation an having him block the end man on the line. That way the WR takes 2 defenders out of the play, the man covering him and the man he blocks. Which can... give the QB as much time as he would have against cover 1. That allows for intermediate routes, double moves, deep crossers, etc. all that without a FS to clean things up. NO DB can cover all of that consistently. And that's tonight's edition of Bill is smarter than us. Somehow we (Broncos) won that game, but the following week the Steelers used a modified version of that same game plan with Hines Ward who was built for that job and they blew us out and wore my rookie ass out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The above is a guide strategy. But I hate when people say just to throw slants. That's when you get a rain blitz and get tricked into throwing a pick. Can elaborate more later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 @Adam Gase apparently he’s needs to watch this video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Better forward that video to Gase because Darnold is gonna keep seeing cover 0 until he can consistently beat it. Herndon would help. Still you have to practice against it and have a plan to beat it. Yes a plan P L A N plan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, PCP63 said: The above is a guide strategy. But I hate when people say just to throw slants. That's when you get a rain blitz and get tricked into throwing a pick. Can elaborate more later. Agreed. Your WRs also need to recognize this and adjust their route accordingly. Sometimes they are begging you to throw the slant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Be better coached. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nixhead said: Better forward that video to Gase because Darnold is gonna keep seeing cover 0 until he can consistently beat it. Herndon would help. Still you have to practice against it and have a plan to beat it. Yes a plan P L A N plan! In the words of that great American philosopher Mike Tyson, "Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face." Sam got hit in the face. He has to show he can get up and keep fighting. He has to get to work with his coach on a few things. He needs to either learn to read the coverage better, step up in the pocket and take a hit if necessary, and get off his back foot. He has to be better then this, and hopefully he learned a hard lesson. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the first time a team ran this defense against him, and after Monday night, it won't be the last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 You think the DB doesn't know you have no option to run the slant? Why you hear their CBs talking about trusting the front guys to "get home". They are playing at the top of their game as super bowl favorites. We drafted 3rd last year and have a 2nd year qb. Yes he got crossed up with all the looks he got. PS. "see ghosts" is not as crazy as media makes it sound. Refers to pressure that isn't there in football terms. PPS f the bills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 14 in Green said: In the words of that great American philosopher Mike Tyson, "Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face." Sam got hit in the face. He has to show he can get up and keep fighting. He has to get to work with his coach on a few things. He needs to either learn to read the coverage better, step up in the pocket and take a hit if necessary, and get off his back foot. He has to be better then this, and hopefully he learned a hard lesson. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the first time a team ran this defense against him, and after Monday night, it won't be the last. this as well, and when he went back to his corner, his corner man didn't do him any favors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: In the words of that great American philosopher Mike Tyson, "Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face." Sam got hit in the face. He has to show he can get up and keep fighting. He has to get to work with his coach on a few things. He needs to either learn to read the coverage better, step up in the pocket and take a hit if necessary, and get off his back foot. He has to be better then this, and hopefully he learned a hard lesson. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the first time a team ran this defense against him, and after Monday night, it won't be the last. if cover zero is so great, all teams would be using at all times. it's not like it just came about. i'm sure williams uses it in some fashion. as for darnold, he saw it in the buffalo game and he will be seeing it all season as long as it keeps working. the jets needs to figure out how to prepare for it and make the defense pay when they try it. gase is supposed to be an offense guru, he should already know the solution. then it remains for them to have the right people to negate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: You think the DB doesn't know you have no option to run the slant? Why you hear their CBs talking about trusting the front guys to "get home". They are playing at the top of their game as super bowl favorites. We drafted 3rd last year and have a 2nd year qb. Yes he got crossed up with all the looks he got. PS. "see ghosts" is not as crazy as media makes it sound. Refers to pressure that isn't there in football terms. PPS f the bills Well said. Completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Be better coached. Don't have sh*tty Oline Don't have mediocre WRs, TEs That also helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 If Brady said he saw ghosts then Gregg Williams would be getting offers the very next day to be a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, peebag said: Don't have sh*tty Oline Don't have mediocre WRs, TEs That also helps. All of it helps. Starting with the coaches then QB then oline etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Agreed. Your WRs also need to recognize this and adjust their route accordingly. Sometimes they are begging you to throw the slant. Yup. Especially against Belicheck, since it's a staple of him and Saban. Here's a good breakdown of it: http://www.blitzology.com/2012/02/superbowl-preview-bill-belichicks-blitz.html?m=1 Two best ways to beat it are different routes from the same stem as a slant (out route), or, as said above, motioning in a wham blocker. Outside of that, it's pretty tough. It's a blitz where you can get a free rusher with only 5 rushers, and you can eliminate the quick slant (or even better, trick them into throwing it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastenpark Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 The only problem I had with Darnold is that he was scared to get hit. As a QB you definitely can’t be scared to get hit unless your 40plus years old like Brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Mastenpark said: The only problem I had with Darnold is that he was scared to get hit. As a QB you definitely can’t be scared to get hit unless your 40plus years old like Brady How was he scared to get hit? You’d rather him take a 10 yard sack on 3rd and long? He has defenders touching him on all the interceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mastenpark said: The only problem I had with Darnold is that he was scared to get hit. As a QB you definitely can’t be scared to get hit unless your 40plus years old like Brady well people had been telling him for a month he has a dangerously enlarged spleen that's gotta get in your head on some level BTW Cover 0 is not hard to beat if the Jets ran Cover 0 against Brady the score would have been 78-0 instead of 33-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The play calls we used were laughable Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Early in the game, use the run against it. That can gash the defense. Screens are pretty safe, even if they fake and drop into a zoneSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Early in the game, use the run against it. That can gash the defense. Screens are pretty safe, even if they fake and drop into a zone Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Bell beat the Cover 0 for a 19 yard run at one point it did happen but also holding penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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