rex-n-effect Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Can anyone speak to the competency of Todd Wash (Jax DC)? I suspect if he's competent Sam will be devoured by free rushers all game, again. Even a sh*tty DC just needs to look at the film from Monday night and run the exact same plays all day as NE. Every team is going to do that until it stops being effective. The Bills did essentially the same thing with free rushers all day which means the offense is running no better halfway into the season than it was on day one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, rex-n-effect said: Even a sh*tty DC just needs to look at the film from Monday night and run the exact same plays all day as NE. Every team is going to do that until it stops being effective. The Bills did essentially the same thing with free rushers all day which means the offense is running no better halfway into the season than it was on day one. Every team other than Dallas has had a boatload of free rushers all game. NE just did it best and didn't relent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: The Bills did essentially the same thing with free rushers all day which means the offense is running no better halfway into the season than it was on day one. Adam Gase is like the dude who comes to town in the Simpsons and sells everyone a monorail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Beerfish said: CJ gave bowles and mac 5 years CJ let gase choose his own gm Gase is here a MINIMUM of two more years after this one no matter what. He hasn't even started to sacrifice assistant coaches yet. Mac and Bowles getting 5 years should tell you all you need to know about competence or results not being a factor for employment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike135 said: I don't think we'll get blown out. But accepting that premise, no I don't think so. The Johnsons don't seem like (over) reactionary folks to me. Fans will do it regularly. But not billionaire trust fund guys. Fixed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, bitonti said: Adam Gase is like the dude who comes to town in the Simpsons and sells everyone a monorail A MONORAIL!!? MONORAIL!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EdReed22 Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 This sh*tty team doesn't deserve a single win. The defense with all thise all pros drafted should be shutting teams out. Nope we'd be lucky if the touch a QB. The secondary is good at tackling receivers after they make a first round grab. They show their swag by dancing after making a tackle. This teams a joke minus our MVP punter and Kicker. Thats the only into whose played well. Poole is the only one in the secondary thats played consistent. Johnson and roberts get beat from guys off the street . mate and Adams love to tackle after a plays made. Once in a while they will get the hands on the ball but fail to intercept it. Wish we had a marcus Peters type player. Get deep is ok as long as you also get pucks. Be consistent. Our team just gets beat and can't make plays when we need too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: A MONORAIL!!? MONORAIL!! Ive coached teams in Miami, Chicago and Detroit! and by gum it put them on the map! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: They beat the Cowboys, right? You think the Cowboys are worse then the Jags? That is called being reasonable and not over reactive to each win and loss. The Cowboys were playing with half their starters out. So the Cowboys were equal to the Jags when we played them. The Jets barely beat them then. Now the Jags defense is pretty good. I don't expect the Jets to win. As a matter of fact I go into every Jet Game not expecting much. With the team constructed as they are it's a legitimate point of view to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: The Cowboys were playing with half their starters out. So the Cowboys were equal to the Jags when we played them. The Jets barely beat them then. Now the Jags defense is pretty good. I don't expect the Jets to win. As a matter of fact I go into every Jet Game not expecting much. With the team constructed as they are it's a legitimate point of view to have. Fair enough, but Cowboys at partial strength is about as good as the Jags at full strength, maybe better. IMO. It's not going to be an easy game but not unwinnable either. I get your mentality though, assume the worst, and be happy if they exceed expectations. Personally, I hate that, but to each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: He won't get fired untill he has completely ruined darnold Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app He is well on his way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, rex-n-effect said: Even a sh*tty DC just needs to look at the film from Monday night and run the exact same plays all day as NE. Every team is going to do that until it stops being effective. The Bills did essentially the same thing with free rushers all day which means the offense is running no better halfway into the season than it was on day one. Thank you.... its been the same since the bills... nothing has changed at all. This Fking HC is stubbornly holding out hope his justification for using schemes that are failing will work. The problem is they aren't and haven't (record last few years 13-24) but will either get SAM killed or worse gun shy to a point where he is useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, EdReed22 said: This sh*tty team doesn't deserve a single win. The defense with all thise all pros drafted should be shutting teams out. Nope we'd be lucky if the touch a QB. The secondary is good at tackling receivers after they make a first round grab. They show their swag by dancing after making a tackle. This teams a joke minus our MVP punter and Kicker. Thats the only into whose played well. Poole is the only one in the secondary thats played consistent. Johnson and roberts get beat from guys off the street . mate and Adams love to tackle after a plays made. Once in a while they will get the hands on the ball but fail to intercept it. Wish we had a marcus Peters type player. Get deep is ok as long as you also get pucks. Be consistent. Our team just gets beat and can't make plays when we need too. I agree with this... Their defense has been very disappointing without Mosley and Avery Williamson... these two seem like the only two playmakers on the team on the defense... Poole has been great and underrated and Adams and Maye are Solid but not playmakers and Hewitt has been solid.... The biggest issue is with all the capital spent on DL and exposing cashman in coverage, they are not difference makers yet and QW can't seem to stay healthy. I am not sure what to make of him yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 the real interesting thing will be when the dolphins on 12/8 win- the dolphins will beat us at our home and then the Gase apologists will come up with some insane explanation on how the dolphins are a team on the rise and they were familiar with the "Gase " system and Gase needs to stay there are still folks that disparage mike mccarthy a guy with a career winning record and a freaking super bowl ring and talk up our scrub coach who has won nothing and ruins players. MM handled the Farve to Arod transition perfectly and even though you may say Arod is all natural ability his coach had a system that allowed them to win a ring. The longer we keep Gase the better the chances are Sam ends up like our last QB from USC that was not properly coached 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Fair enough, but Cowboys at partial strength is about as good as the Jags at full strength, maybe better. IMO. It's not going to be an easy game but not unwinnable either. I get your mentality though, assume the worst, and be happy if they exceed expectations. Personally, I hate that, but to each their own. I said this in my post. Also I said I don't expect much with the Jets roster as it is CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED. Thats why I don't expect much. The holes on this team are evident. The OL, WR, and pass rush are nothing to write home about. With the exception of Bell and Crowder they have nothing on Offense. Sam is going to have his ups and downs. That's why it is ludicrous to expect this team to make the playoffs. Downright delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Philc1 said: Just wondering if Woody and Chrissy will grow a brain Rig about the time you figure out that you avatar is dumb and that Woody hasn't run they team in years, for a starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, kmnj said: the real interesting thing will be when the dolphins on 12/8 win- the dolphins will beat us at our home and then the Gase apologists will come up with some insane explanation on how the dolphins are a team on the rise and they were familiar with the "Gase " system and Gase needs to stay there are still folks that disparage mike mccarthy a guy with a career winning record and a freaking super bowl ring and talk up our scrub coach who has won nothing and ruins players. MM handled the Farve to Arod transition perfectly and even though you may say Arod is all natural ability his coach had a system that allowed them to win a ring. The longer we keep Gase the better the chances are Sam ends up like our last QB from USC that was not properly coached Got it all figured out, don't you? BTW, other than us, how come the great MM didn't get a single interview? Grass is always greener.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, rex-n-effect said: The Bills did essentially the same thing with free rushers all day which means the offense is running no better halfway into the season than it was on day one. If you actually think that what you saw, you should stop now. Bills nothing that was essentially the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 feel good words http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001068760/article/jets-about-to-turn-a-corner-plus-a-pair-of-week-8-sleeper-players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The only way Gase gets fired is if the Jets finish like 1-15/2-14 and there's a complete mutiny and even then I put the odds at 50/50 he's back for 2020. He's gonna be here next year, it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Losmeister said: feel good words http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001068760/article/jets-about-to-turn-a-corner-plus-a-pair-of-week-8-sleeper-players It's obvious, our schedule gets very favorable. Its hard to believe that the same board that thought we had a good chance to upset the Pats now think we'll struggle to win 3 games this year but I'm used to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Remember, if the Jags come out and wipe out the Jets, that Manish Mehta—at the behest of weasel Mike Maccagnan—kneecapped Doug Marrone from getting the Jets job, which Marrone desperately wanted. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, slimjasi said: I tend to agree, unless we are 1-15ish bad. In that case, the media pressure might be too great for Gase to survive. And, if we ever get anywhere close to 7 wins, the moral victory talk will be off the charts. Gase is back regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Mike135 said: But not billionaire business guys The Johnsons may be billionaires (by birth), but they're definitely NOT business guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Gase is here for the rest of this year and 3 more years after that at minimum. He hired his best friend as his boss. You dont fire your best friend. So unless you believe the Johnsons are going to fire a gm that just got a 6 year deal anytime soon, gase is going nowhere. Exactly what I was going to say, except I'll add one more thing. Remember how everyone loved how Gase undercut Macc and got us JD? Well that move showed you all you need to know about Gase's back room maneuvering skills. Now comes the part most of you won't love. Gase has his boy JD watching his back. They have no allegiance to Darnold. Sure, if Sam plays well, and they believe in him, he'll be their guy. But if you think Gase is going to fall on his sword for a QB he didn't pick, you're nuts. Hell even if he likes Sam I could see him throwing him under a bus to save himself. Especially if the heat gets turned up and he knows he can play the "a HC should get to pick his own QB" card to both his buddy the GM and CJ. If Darnold plays well, both he and Gase stay. If Darnold doesn't play well, Gase will make sure Sam goes before he does. You watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Jags I think are a touchdown favorite at home. That's about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Remember, if the Jags come out and wipe out the Jets, that Manish Mehta—at the behest of weasel Mike Maccagnan—kneecapped Doug Marrone from getting the Jets job, which Marrone desperately wanted. Yup. Instead of going for 2 late in the game to rub our noses in it, maybe an onsides kick this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Explain, please, what he did to Darnold between Dallas and the Pats game? should be good It is not about what he has done. It is about why he was hired and what has not happened. The guy was hired after Peyton Manning made a phone call gushing about how gase helped him and how gase is a qb whisperer. We brought him here to develop our young qb into a star. darnold looked great at the end of last season and under gase he looks to have regressed. The sample size is small but I don't feel hopeful that gase has helped or will help darnold.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 hours ago, jgb said: They aren’t paying 3 HCs next year. Bowles on payroll through next season. 2021 earliest we are moving on. It would only be two if they promoted Williams. They’re paying him anyway. Not necessarily suggesting that’s the answer but if this was the only reason for not firing him should the wheels fall all the way off. It could be done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I actually think we have a good chance to win on Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Barkus said: No, Gase will be back next year unless jets go 1-15, then they will have no choice but to fire him. Remember they are still paying Bowles too. And if we go 2 and 14 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 All seriousness, I don’t see any chance a Gase would be fired till the end of the 2020 season at the earliest. No matter how bad we may or may not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Rig about the time you figure out that you avatar is dumb and that Woody hasn't run they team in years, for a starter? You think Woody actually does stuffin that made up job Trump gave him? That’s cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 8 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Gase is back regardless like herpes with googly eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Warfish said: All seriousness, I don’t see any chance a Gase would be tired till the end of the 2020 season at the earliest. No matter how bad we may or may not be. Why would Gase be tired? He hasn't done anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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