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I'm not even beginning to write off Darnold but there is no excusing his terrible MNF performance.

You lost everyone on this board when you mentioned Vinny and Chad in the same post as Mark and Geno. Just stop. 

1 hour ago, carlito1171 said:

There's no data out there that proves Sam isn't part of the problem right now...can't call him a bust yet, can't say hes our surefire Franchise QB yet.....we don't know what he is at this time.....anyone who tries to tell you otherwise doesn't know themselves they only think they do....

 

We've  seen him play well at times.....however, as much as I like Sam, I would be lying if I didn't mention that his penchant for chucking the ball recklessly and turning it over when he's flustered is at least concerning.....

Not true see post above

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

He has "played well" in 25% of the games he has played. 

 

Hes trending the wrong way. It is what it is. 

Your math is pretty lame

He played better agains the Bills than any other QB, while having mono. 

He was great against the cowboys.
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Darnold was a turnover machine in college and its continuing in the pros.

Yeah, other than that’s wrong who would expect more from you

Nowhere near the TO machine of your namesake

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2 hours ago, daquix said:

2002 ... "Vinny Testaverde is NOT the problem"

2004 ... "Chad Pennington is NOT the problem"

2011 ... "Mark Sanchez is NOT the problem"

2014 ... "Geno Smith is NOT the problem"

2016 ... "Ryan Fitzpatrick is NOT the problem"

2019 ... "Sam Darnold is NOT the problem"

 

Psss... these QB's were ALL part of the problem.

These all the years the Bills missed the playoffs

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17 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Seriously I dropped a dresser drawer on my toe a long time ago and if you break a toe it's f****** debilitating. Maybe that's why he couldn't throw and kept throwing off his back foot? Apparently he's having his toenail removed today

I smashed my foot into the brick retaining wall in front of my house 2 months ago. The nail broke under the skin. I pulled it off with a pair of pliers... you don’t see it stopping my ability to be a doosher. DO YOU???

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Honestly, maybe it’s a blessing that his sophomore slump is coinciding with the last year Mac had influence on the roster. 

Let him grow up a little... and purge this albatross from the rectum on up.

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2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I smashed my foot into the brick retaining wall in front of my house 2 months ago. The nail broke under the skin. I pulled it off with a pair of pliers... you don’t see it stopping my ability to be a doosher. DO YOU???

It certainly hurts like a bitch, but a gauze pad and some advil and you're ok to at least practice. The Jets even floating this out as a legit injury is a bit ridiculous. 

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1 hour ago, Skeptable said:

I encourage you to watch these: not to say that he wasn't the problem because he was... Many times but just watch these:

 

 

 

 

Thank you but................

 

All these videos say is that Sam Darnold is better and smarter than the rest of the mook players on the JETS......and that Gase is incompetent because he can not get the guys playing properly!!

Good Grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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6 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

It certainly hurts like a bitch, but a gauze pad and some advil and you're ok to at least practice. The Jets even floating this out as a legit injury is a bit ridiculous. 

Dude he practiced in everything except full team practice... Gase said as much in his presser and also said that he will come up as DNP on the practice report

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15 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Yeah, other than that’s wrong who would expect more from you

Nowhere near the TO machine of your namesake

You're unhinged, bro. Yeah, let's sh*t all over the only player of importance this clown shoes franchise has ever had, to defend that absolute dumpster fire we had at QB on Monday. LOL. 

 

The Cowboys? Now were hanging our hat on a double move in a DB that slipped on the play against a team that was completely looking past a crap team to a much more important game against a division rival the following week. LOL. 

 

I bet you were sh*tti g on Namath and sucking Genos dick back in '13 when he "won a shootout against the Bills" and looked.somewhat competent in garbage time of a lost season. 

 

Darnold has played well in 4 games out of the 16 he has now played. That's 25%. That's not "lame math", that's Math. On top of that, he has managed to embarrass this team several times now. Mono? LOL. Ghosts? This kid has managed Sanchez level embarrassment in 1/5 the time. 

 

Whatever. Go ahead and sling insults and get hyper defensive.  It won't change the fact that this team is a dumpster fire and the QB is regressing under its clueless Head Coach. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

You're unhinged, bro. Yeah, let's sh*t all over the only player of importance this clown shoes franchise has ever had, to defend that absolute dumpster fire we had at QB on Monday. LOL. 

 

The Cowboys? Now were hanging our hat on a double move in a DB that slipped on the play against a team that was completely looking past a crap team to a much more important game against a division rival the following week. LOL. 

 

I bet you were sh*tti g on Namath and sucking Genos dick back in '13 when he "won a shootout against the Bills" and looked.somewhat competent in garbage time of a lost season. 

 

Darnold has played well in 4 games out of the 16 he has now played. That's 25%. That's not "lame math", that's Math. On top of that, he has managed to embarrass this team several times now. Mono? LOL. Ghosts? This kid has managed Sanchez level embarrassment in 1/5 the time. 

 

Whatever. Go ahead and sling insults and get hyper defensive.  It won't change the fact that this team is a dumpster fire and the QB is regressing under its clueless Head Coach. 

 

 

Lions

Dolphins 

Colts

Broncos

Bills

Packers

Texans

Dallas

thats 8/16 games with elite performances, 50%, at 22 years old. Good try though 

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57 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

I encourage you to watch these: not to say that he wasn't the problem because he was... Many times but just watch these:

 

 

 

 

I feel better about Sam after seeing this.  He was terrible, but the receivers seem to have a complete lack of awareness or feel for the situation / coverage.  As for the O-line, that speaks for itself.

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1 minute ago, Green DNA said:

I feel better about Sam after seeing this.  He was terrible, but the receivers seem to have a complete lack of awareness or feel for the situation / coverage.  As for the O-line, that speaks for itself.

I felt the same way... You can literally see Darnold calling for hot routes and his WRs didn't run them.... Or when he calls out cover zero and Brian winters blocks the wrong man... But everyone else on the line blocked the right guy and adjusted... But not winters.... 

Or Robbie Anderson running a seam when darnold changes him to a post pattern and waits for his cut that never comes and gets strip sacks for it. 

What's encouraging is that he doesn't call out any of these issues later and kinda just says everyone needs to be better. 

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50 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

It certainly hurts like a bitch, but a gauze pad and some advil and you're ok to at least practice. The Jets even floating this out as a legit injury is a bit ridiculous. 

I ran 3 miles the day after I ripped it off myself. All I had was a gauze pad, and a bunch of tape around it to keep the inside of my sneaker from getting too bloody. I'm a ******* savage.

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2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

The “Seeing ghosts” is his butt fumble. Rich Eisen said he will have to win a Lombardi to live it down. 

It went so badly, It could be what finishes the kid off before he’s started.

First he gets the mono, then he plays epically bad, and worse of all embarrassing himself in front of the nation. Not the ideal second year bounce, you want out of your QB.

The Seeing Ghosts thing is no where near the butt fumble and no where nearly as egregious.

What he said was a logical way of describing the problems he was having.  Recognizing a problem and trying to best articulate his frustration is a good thing.  That recognition was one of the few things he did well.

Rich Eisen is a moron.

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1 hour ago, Skeptable said:

I encourage you to watch these: not to say that he wasn't the problem because he was... Many times but just watch these:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing. I would never blame everything on him. If my comments seemed like they did, I didn't mean to do that. 

I've been screaming about this slap-dick protection for weeks. Seems to me it's a coaching issue since we didn't have nearly this big of an issue last year.

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The veteran Matt Stafford got picked off last year by the Jets 4 times,  he is still a top tier QB unfortunately stuck with bad coaches an OCs his whole career. Maybe we should have picked the coach with the SB and multiple playoff appearances when we had the chance.

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28 minutes ago, JiF said:

The problem - the team sucks, the coach is terrible and the organization is a dumpster fire. 

The reality - BB is awesome, the Patriots are cheaters, that D is insane and Sam had a really bad game.  He's not that bad and he's probably not as good as many thought he was coming into that game.  We just dont know yet.  He has he skill set to be great.  I do think he has enough to build a winner around but that's probably going to take 2 full offseasons of doing it right. 

The concern - he might be too soft and not have the killer instinct that it takes to be an all time great who can win it all.  And unfortunately, the Jets need an all time great to overcome the deficiencies of this team because it's not just the team that sucks, it's organizational dysfunction at an incomprehensible level.   

The hope - Joe Douglas can change it all.  Hopefully, he can break down this ridiculous structure, build it his way, the way he's learned from other great GM's, scout and draft at an elite level and start an influx of talent to catch up with the rest of the league. 

The fear - it's the Jets.

Agree on everything. Not sure if the bolded is true though.

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1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Agree on everything. Not sure if the bolded is true though.

He absolutely has the skill-set to be great.  If fact, I think that's inarguable.  

Question is between his ears.  I thought he had that too until Monday night and now I'm not so sure.

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1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you but................

 

All these videos say is that Sam Darnold is better and smarter than the rest of the mook players on the JETS......and that Gase is incompetent because he can not get the guys playing properly!!

Good Grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

True, but this also indicates that our young QB actually does gets it, can make the  right calls, and is not as clueless as NFL films, Rich Eisen, ESPN and the rest of the world think he is.  His learning curve is learn to throw the ball OOB or in the dirt like Brady and take the grounding penalty when his receivers and O-line spit the bit.  And FFS lets pray that this is the LAST time the Jets braintrust authorizes a mic'ed up 22 year old QB.    

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3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He absolutely has the skill-set to be great.  If fact, I think that's inarguable.  

Question is between his ears.  I thought he had that too until Monday night and now I'm not so sure.

Curious what makes Darnold's skillset better than say... Matt Stafford?

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Nobody showed the blueprints for how to build a team better than Mangini. Parcells had a lot of existing talent so it was a little different but basically the same. You start upfront with OL and DL. Then you get corners. You collect every LB you can find until you have a great mix of skillsets. Then towards the end you get skill position guys and a QB. Jets literally went out and blew their wad on guys that play positions that are relatively easy to find in any draft from rounds 2-5.

 

 

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