CTJetsFan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Voted yes. Has too many intangibles to not succeed. And he's only 22. Has already had top QB rating in the AFC for a month (Dec 2018) and AFC Player of the Week (vs Dallas). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I voted no because I don’t think he will for us. We already screwed it up and he will be leaving if there isn’t a miraculous turnaround of this roster by next year (year 3). I think Sam has all the talent to be a great QB but we screwed up the timing by not having the roster in place (despite having 3 whole drafts prior and needing offensive positions) and unless we drastically turn things around, he will head for the hills come FA and gamble on himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Warfish said: I voted No. Not because I do not believe in the potential and talent Sam Darnold possesses. He has that potential, to be a legit FQB. Because I simply do not believe in the Jets Organization's ability to take the raw clay that is Sam Darnold, and mold it into a franchise QB. Notice the question didn't stipulate with the Jets? What the hell are you on the site for now anyway? Don't you have something a little more important to do this evening? Go Nats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I'll settle for him being able to set his feet and stop throwing while his footwork is all over the place. I know it can be a positive at times, but his technique and fundamentals need a lot of cleaning up. I'd say at this point chances are 60/40 with 60 being no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: There's a pretty huge gap between former MVP Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton, so I'm not sure what to make of this comment. Career qb rating ryan - 95 dalton - 88 pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I said, "No". I don't think it's because of his lack of ability though. I think the deck is stacked against him. Gase is not the offensive genius he's made out to be. However, by the time they move on from the Gase disaster, his rookie deal will be ending and the offense will be in a similar place as Gase's offense has always been and Sam will be in "backup Qb" mode for the rest of his career. Given a mediocre offensive coordinator, he could be a perennial top 10 QB aka franchise QB. Unfortunately, there's too much bad around him and "development" is more important than talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I voted no because I don’t think he will for us. We already screwed it up and he will be leaving if there isn’t a miraculous turnaround of this roster by next year (year 3). I think Sam has all the talent to be a great QB but we screwed up the timing by not having the roster in place (despite having 3 whole drafts prior and needing offensive positions) and unless we drastically turn things around, he will head for the hills come FA and gamble on himself. Watch him sign with NE and trigger a mass of suicides in the JetNation fan base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes. But probably not with the Jets ala Jim Plunkett's career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 He’s like a poor mans Jameis right now. I don’t love his chances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Why ask someone to take a stand? nobody cares lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, nico002 said: When Darnold is on the field I believe we have an advantage at the position against about 20/32 teams. I'll repeat. Wow. Who, would you say, are the 20 starting NFL QB's Sam Darnold is clearly better than right now, today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Warfish said: I'll repeat. Wow. Who, would you say, are the 20 starting NFL QB's Sam Darnold is clearly better than right now, today? This is surprising? I'm more surprised he didn't say 29 out of 32 teams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: I think it depends on what you define as a "franchise" QB. I think he will develop into an above average starter who will be our quarterback for a long time. So, if that's a "franchise" guy, the yes. If we're talking "will he be an elite QB who is a perennial pro-bowler/MVP candidate" then then that's a much taller ask and while I think he has that potential I'm way less confident he gets there. I’ve already seen him hit throws that NO “above average” QB can make. Can he do it consistently? That’s the major question. This sh*thole so-called “organization” sure IS NOT helping him out. So the jury should be out for quite awhile, because you can’t fix this dumpster fire known as the NY Jets quickly...and by then he very well might high tail it out back to the West Coast as soon as his contract is mercifully over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, CTM said: This is surprising? I'm more surprised he didn't say 29 out of 32 teams It shouldn't be. But it still is, every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'll repeat. Wow. Who, would you say, are the 20 starting NFL QB's Sam Darnold is clearly better than right now, today? Dak Prescott Jared Goff Andy Dalton Jameis Winston Kyler Murray Matthew Stafford Gardner Minshew Lamar Jackson Joe Flacco Baker Mayfield Derek Carr Teddy Bridgewater Case Keenum Josh Allen Jimmy Garoppolo Marcus Mariota Daniel Jones Kyle Allen Mitchell Trubisky Ryan Fitzpatrick 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 He's no Patrick Ramsey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I voted no because he's a Jet. The Jets dont know how to develop anything. The Jets think that QB's come fully functional to win SB's right out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, nico002 said: Dak Prescott Jared Goff Andy Dalton Jameis Winston Kyler Murray Matthew Stafford Gardner Minshew Lamar Jackson Joe Flacco Baker Mayfield Derek Carr Teddy Bridgewater Case Keenum Josh Allen Jimmy Garoppolo Marcus Mariota Daniel Jones Kyle Allen Mitchell Trubisky Ryan Fitzpatrick November 24, 2019 you will see why this is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, CTM said: This is surprising? I'm more surprised he didn't say 29 out of 32 teams I'm surprised all of you didn't say 29/32 teams. Jets fans predictably grasping at dicks to rationalize nothing being anybody's fault despite the fact that the team is 1-5. Next year when they're still sh*t and still don't have a quarterback, it will be by popular demand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 TAKE A STAND HELL YAH BROTHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: I love it, ask this question after his worst game ever knowing that 90% of fans live for the moment. Honestly I think that's a great time to ask the question. It's tests how much you believe in the guy. I'm a believer and voted "yes" but I guess we'll find out in a couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I hope so but I dont see it. Pressure the guy and he turns into a turnover machine. That was his MO in college and its been the same in the pros. Turnovers are in your DNA. I dont see it changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: TAKE A STAND HELL YAH BROTHA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Not on this team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 YES Unless he gets blindsided and his spleen explodes and dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Sam has all the tools so I voted Yes. He has shown he can get it done to the extent I believe he can play the position at this level. Will he be able to survive until he has an OL and competent skill players around him? That is the question. He can't do it by himself and his talent will only take him so far. My belief in Gase is not strong at all. I never wanted the guy in the 1st place and now you can see why. He gets some time because of what he inherited talent wise but they must surround Sam with young players he can grow with on offense and sprinkle in a mix a veterans to get the job done. If Macc had signed the two OL in FA last off-season I bet we are having a different conversation about Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: November 24, 2019 you will see why this is a joke. I’ll be at that game. Not sure how you think that pathetic defense will stop anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I've seen enough from him to say that he isnt going to be a Mark Sanchez and flame out. He might be a Matthew Stafford esque franchise QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Obviously the sample size is too small for an informed opinion ... not allowing us to say maybe ... and asking this after his worst $h*tstorm performance ever is weird timing ... my uninformed opinion would still be yes despite Monday night’s train wreckSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: Yeah in the M Ryan, A Dalton mode of fqb clumping matt ryan with andy Dalton is a joke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, nico002 said: Dak Prescott Jared Goff Andy Dalton Jameis Winston Kyler Murray Matthew Stafford Gardner Minshew Lamar Jackson Joe Flacco Baker Mayfield Derek Carr Teddy Bridgewater Case Keenum Josh Allen Jimmy Garoppolo Marcus Mariota Daniel Jones Kyle Allen Mitchell Trubisky Ryan Fitzpatrick Mariota HAHAHAHAAHA that is the funniest sh*t I ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Sam Darnold led all power 5 qbs in turnovers his final year in college. He was a turnover machine. He is doing the same thing in the pros. Jameis Winston is a very good comparision. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, nico002 said: I’ll be at that game. Not sure how you think that pathetic defense will stop anything. A pathetic jet offense . You aren’t stopping the Raider offense. A top five offense line( first time all year their starting five on the offense line will play together . Raiders have been able to run it against any NFL defense this year, and they have three top Te’s. You skated trying to address which Qb is better. What are you basing your answer why Sam Darnold is better than Derek Carr. What stat are you using to support your position. There isn’t anything S Darnold has done better than Carr. Just because you say it 100 times does it make it right. When Darnold puts up better numbers than Carr than make that point. Right now your position is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Sam *is* a FQB surrounded by 6 years of the worst GM performance in the history of the NFL. Zero talent combined with zero effort - this roster sucks butt. We'll need three years to rebuild this team and I believe we have the right people - Gase and Douglas - running the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Untouchable said: Yes Monday nights showing was putrid, but the kid has literally everything you want in a franchise QB. There were always going to be growing pains with Darnold. The f*cking guy had only played 3 seasons at the position before the Jets drafted him. His senior year in HS and the 20 games he played at USC. He was a LB/WR before that. He didn’t grow up playing QB since he was 7 years old like a bunch of these guys. The dude was the savior just 5 days ago and now after one sh*tastic performance against a defense that is trending towards being the best to ever step on a football field, this fanbase wants to throw him on the trash heap. It’s beyond stupid. Beyond Stupid... what a great name for a punk band! Or it could even be the name of one of those VHS tapes they would put out after the season in the Jets tent at Hofstra LOL! Beyond Stupid: The story of the 2019 New York Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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