Popular Post Philc1 Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 This is what a crappy head coach looks like 4 1 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Its sad that we are looking forward to the Knicks season as our relief from.. this. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I always thought we were just waiting for our FQB and we’d be ok. I can’t believe how wrong I was. By the time we get a good supporting cast Sam won’t be Sam anymore. Just crushed right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, Philc1 said: This is what a crappy head coach looks like The guy on the bottom, is that Pornstar Mark Wood?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I always thought we were just waiting for our FQB and we’d be ok. I can’t believe how wrong I was. By the time we get a good supporting cast Sam won’t be Sam anymore. Just crushed right now. Dont worry. There was a time where you couldnt tell any Jets fan that it takes more than just a QB and that the QB is the last piece of the puzzle not the first.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RSJ said: Dont worry. There was a time where you couldnt tell any Jets fan that it takes more than just a QB and that the QB is the last piece of the puzzle not the first. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I don’t think a QB is necessarily the last piece. It’s just that the rest of the team should never be as bad as we are. Criminally bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I don’t think a QB is necessarily the last piece. It’s just that the rest of the team should never be as bad as we are. Criminally bad. Its 100% the last piece and its not even arguable. Go back and see how Mangini built our last decent team. Look at what Parcells did when he came here. You cant even judge a QB until you have a solid team around him, let alone rely on a rookie to overcome bad play and bad coaching. See the problem is its been 10 year since we had a GM and coach with brains so most young people dont even know what it takes and what it looks like.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: I always thought we were just waiting for our FQB and we’d be ok. I can’t believe how wrong I was. By the time we get a good supporting cast Sam won’t be Sam anymore. Just crushed right now. We are still looking for a FQB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, Philc1 said: This is what a crappy head coach looks like RJ has been fantastic so far. I expect him to lead the Knicks to the promise land one day and attract big FAs to play at MSG. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 RJ has been fantastic so far. I expect him to lead the Knicks to the promise land one day and attract big FAs to play at MSG. I thought RJ was the best player in the draft. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Once RJ figures out the mid range game it's over 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, RSJ said: I thought RJ was the best player in the draft. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If Zion can’t stay on the court then he probably will be. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, RSJ said: Dont worry. There was a time where you couldnt tell any Jets fan that it takes more than just a QB and that the QB is the last piece of the puzzle not the first. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Well, that theory was based on an assumption that the GM had a basic understanding of how to develop a football team. Meaning, when you draft said QB - you then use the vast majority of other resources to build a team around him. Like not drafting a DT at #3 overall and paying a MLB $80mm - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Well, that theory was based on an assumption that the GM had a basic understanding of how to develop a football team. Meaning, when you draft said QB - you then use the vast majority of other resources to build a team around him. Like not drafting a DT at #3 overall and paying a MLB $80mm - I was told on this board that all we needed to worry about was getting a QB. Thats why we traded up for this guy.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, RSJ said: Its 100% the last piece and its not even arguable. Go back and see how Mangini built our last decent team. Look at what Parcells did when he came here. You cant even judge a QB until you have a solid team around him, let alone rely on a rookie to overcome bad play and bad coaching. See the problem is its been 10 year since we had a GM and coach with brains so most young people dont even know what it takes and what it looks like. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I disagree. QBs can’t be the first piece but don’t need to be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @Philc1 basketball really? COME ON MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RSJ said: I was told on this board that all we needed to worry about was getting a QB. Thats why we traded up for this guy. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I think there's making a statement that most understand is not literal...but for the most part is accurate. If you gave Sam even a middle of the road OL and just one WR that can win a one-on-one battle and fight for the ball - and you will be competitive week in and week out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I think there's making a statement that most understand is not literal...but for the most part is accurate. If you gave Sam even a middle of the road OL and just one WR that can win a one-on-one battle and fight for the ball - and you will be competitive week in and week out.You cant tank for a QB with a middle of the road OL. Kind of an oxymoron.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I disagree. QBs can’t be the first piece but don’t need to be the last. We can agree it is towards the back end of the rebuild.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RSJ said: You cant tank for a QB with a middle of the road OL. Kind of an oxymoron. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I disagree, if your plan is to you use all of your other primary resources to build one. It's not like they couldn't have done that. Look, if we're fighting over Mac being sh-ty I agree...but if we're fighting over the fact that the QB isn't far and away the most important position in all of sports and you have to do whatever you can to get one - if that means taking one when your teams sucks you do it... but you MUST then make building around him your single most important priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 best player in the draft was Morant , a future superstar the Knicks has the same issues the Jets have, Bad ownership and management lucky for me i am sixers fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, RSJ said: I thought RJ was the best player in the draft. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I have loved watching RJ. I think he is the first legit first round talent the Knicks have drafted since Ewing but I have a feeling once Zion starts playing, you might feel different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 This whole "last piece of the puzzle" argument is silly. When a potential FQB is available, you draft him. There isn't any more to be said about that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: This is what a future franchise player looks like Huh? The Knicks are one of the few teams that the Jets have more wins than! Great players on bad teams? That’s like Adams and Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I disagree, if your plan is to you use all of your other primary resources to build one. It's not like they couldn't have done that. Look, if we're fighting over Mac being sh-ty I agree...but if we're fighting over the fact that the QB isn't far and away the most important position in all of sports and you have to do whatever you can to get one - if that means taking one when your teams sucks you do it... but you MUST then make building around him your single most important priority.The young QBs having success all were picked after basically the rest of the team was picked. Its not the most important position in sports, not even close.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Huh? The Knicks are one of the few teams that the Jets have more wins than! Great players on bad teams? That’s like Adams and Darnold. I don't mean to single you out, but when are we going to stop referring to Darnold as a "great player" around here? So many do it, and the only thing great about him is/was his potential. We're midway through his second season, and he's at best, the same player he was when we drafted him. In fact it's more likely he's regressing then progressing at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mo Lew said: I always thought we were just waiting for our FQB and we’d be ok. I can’t believe how wrong I was. By the time we get a good supporting cast Sam won’t be Sam anymore. Just crushed right now. A franchise qb cannot make up for a garbage head coach, GM and inept owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Huh? The Knicks are one of the few teams that the Jets have more wins than! Well I would hope so considering the jets have played 7 games to the Knicks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: This whole "last piece of the puzzle" argument is silly. When a potential FQB is available, you draft him. There isn't any more to be said about that. Drafting Sam was definitely the right move it was Mac and now Douglas botching everything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I have loved watching RJ. I think he is the first legit first round talent the Knicks have drafted since Ewing but I have a feeling once Zion starts playing, you might feel different Zion’s knee so far looks like Jonah’s shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, RSJ said: I thought RJ was the best player in the draft. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Because you’re right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: This is what a crappy head coach looks like Proving that even racists can be right about these two things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 HAH, I FINALLY figured out what happened: They interview Adam Gase. Mac is like "no WAY this nutcase is good for this or any other team..." and Big Dick Johnson is so "blown away" that he hires him in spite of Mac's opinion. Which leaves Mac exposed and, in the end, out on his butt. But, truth be told, Jets fans are the ones butt f*cked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: This is what a crappy head coach looks like And the Knicks have won how many games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, phill1c said: Proving that even racists can be right about these two things. What did I do to piss you off you make the mods think I said that Sh-t you said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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