T0mShane Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Can’t believe the Packers are 7-1 without the great and unemployed Mike McCarthy 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pac said: Meh... beats watching some a-hole beat his chest about a dead terrorist. I'm serious, I enjoy a good thread derailment. Solid work 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Pac said: I dunno ask the Pats if it mattered last Feb. HOLY F*CKING SH*T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Jagalicious matt moore and matt schaub rack it up and look good in their games even though they lost. Our Qb goes out and the excuse machine ramps up. Win or look good losing. Get the most out of your players, that is a coaches job. I thought the gase hire was bad from day one but he is far worse than i could have imagined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Booed to high heaven by Nats fans COUGHCOUGHCOUGH that was beautiful... can't wait for the tweetie describing the pride that was felt during the standing O. I'm talking about Gerrit Cole btw. Not sure what you guys are talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Jagalicious matt moore and matt schaub rack it up and look good in their games even though they lost. Our Qb goes out and the excuse machine ramps up. Win or look good losing. Get the most out of your players, that is a coaches job. I thought the gase hire was bad from day one but he is far worse than i could have imagined. Matt Moore has a career passer rating of 81.4. He’s completed 59% of his passes for 46 TDs and 36 INTs, with a robust 7.0 ypa. His career record as a starter is now 15-16. He’s always been a solid player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Thats because Andy Reid has multiple “franchise” QBsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Maybe someone can explain how its possible to have a decent offense when your center (Austin Relter) was a Browns castoff? I thought you needed all first round picks on the OL to protect your QB and move the ball?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Not just Andy Reid but look at GB. You want to know how we should be utilizing Bell? Carbon copy the plays that GB runs for Aaron Jones. They had him split wide running go routes for God's sake. Remember all those fluff pieces in the off-season about Gase putting in packages to utilize Bells amazing receiving ability? How they would have funky packages with Bell and the second-coming of Barry Sanders, I mean Ty Montgomery, on the field at the same time? Gase sure is a genius, I tell you what. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I mean, IC and Green Bay don't have the best OLs, but their not the worst. The Jets are a bottom 5 OL for sure, right down in the muck with the Bengals, Dolphins, Falcons, Titans, etc. - basically your top NFL underacheivers, and mostly teams that got bit hard by injuries and ineffective draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, isired said: I mean, IC and Green Bay don't have the best OLs, but their not the worst. The Jets are a bottom 5 OL for sure, right down in the muck with the Bengals, Dolphins, Falcons, Titans, etc. - basically your top NFL underacheivers, and mostly teams that got bit hard by injuries and ineffective draft picks. Bottom 5! - This is the worst line I’ve ever seen period. How many sacks have we given up this year? - It’s 34 in 7 games, look at the offensive rankings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Cue dem weaponz crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: Matt Moore has a career passer rating of 81.4. He’s completed 59% of his passes for 46 TDs and 36 INTs, with a robust 7.0 ypa. His career record as a starter is now 15-16. He’s always been mediocre I watched last night’s game and Matt Moore is what he is an average backup qb who locks onto receivers and is indecisive Reid can make his stats look good with well designed plays where he throws to the flats kinda like how Belichick made Matt Cassel $50 million by having him throw to Welker underneath every play Matt Moore is not good, never was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, isired said: I mean, IC and Green Bay don't have the best OLs, but their not the worst. The Jets are a bottom 5 OL for sure, right down in the muck with the Bengals, Dolphins, Falcons, Titans, etc. - basically your top NFL underacheivers, and mostly teams that got bit hard by injuries and ineffective draft picks. You don’t need a great OL. Brady and Manning both played with mediocre OLs for much of their careers. You get around a bad OL by knowing how to audible protection and knowing how to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds to a slot, TE or rb in the flat Gase has no idea how to teach that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: You don’t need a great OL. Brady and Manning both played with mediocre OLs for much of their careers. You get around a bad OL by knowing how to audible protection and knowing how to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds to a slot, TE or rb in the flat Gase has no idea how to teach that. Good QBs make their OLs look better, Sam did that against Dallas but these last 2 weeks he's struggled. It's not just the OL, Sam is in a funk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Good QBs make their OLs look better, Sam did that against Dallas but these last 2 weeks he's struggled. It's not just the OL, Sam is in a funk. Yes Sam has stunk. Gase is not the guy to mentor him though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yes Sam has stunk. Gase is not the guy to mentor him though To me it's still TBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, RSJ said: Maybe someone can explain how its possible to have a decent offense when your center (Austin Relter) was a Browns castoff? I thought you needed all first round picks on the OL to protect your QB and move the ball? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He was drafted in 2015 by the Redskins in the 7th round. Late round and even undrafted O lineman can develop, but like Reiter it takes time. In his case it took 4 years. If you want a starting Rookie O lineman, they are typically found in the first and second rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Can’t believe the Packers are 7-1 without the great and unemployed Mike McCarthy Amazing how their fortunes changes when the went out and invested in the OL and pass rushers. Not much else change but the coaching staff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Reid is the type of coach who can assess what his players are good at, and design plays to maximize it. Thus getting more out of role players. Gase is the type of coach who designs plays and says “here, run this”. Thus exaggerating further the limitations of the players he has. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 You don’t need a great OL. Brady and Manning both played with mediocre OLs for much of their careers. You get around a bad OL by knowing how to audible protection and knowing how to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds to a slot, TE or rb in the flat Gase has no idea how to teach that. Brady had a good OL when he was young. Manning had a bad OL and didn't win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Matt Moore has a career passer rating of 81.4. He’s completed 59% of his passes for 46 TDs and 36 INTs, with a robust 7.0 ypa. His career record as a starter is now 15-16. He’s always been a solid player The guy has started 6 games in the last 7 years. He is Trevor Simian and he too would look utterly terrible under Adam Gase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The guy has started 6 games in the last 7 years. He is Trevor Simian and he too would look utterly terrible under Adam Gase. Trevor Simien broke his leg under Gase in less than one quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Trevor Simien broke his leg under Gase in less than one quarter Under Gase Matt Moore would have been hit by a truck on his way to the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Gee “can’t wait” for the Miami game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, nyjunc said: To me it's still TBD. What do you need another 3 miserable years and Sam ending up a career journeyman backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What do you need another 3 miserable years and Sam ending up a career journeyman backup? We've played half a season. HALF a season. I'm not saying he's BB but BB had 5 losing seasons his first 6 years and they were a joke his first year in NE. Maybe Gase isn't the answer but I can't judge on 8 games with this banged up roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 hours ago, nico002 said: Lmao if Andy Ried coached the Jets you assholes would have his head on a stake for choking in the playoffs. I would love to be in that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Stupid chiefs hiring a guy that’s never won a super bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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