UntouchableCrew Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: As a side note: I totally expect him to have a 3 sack game when they play us in two weeks. No question. It's how these things work and he'll be going up against our offensive line, a huge get-right game for any floundering DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, DLJ said: He’ll go to the giants and be a star. Yes because tons of failed Jets drafted by Macc have gone on to stardom elsewhere. How is Darron Lee doing in KC? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 This is a good trade for us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 So I know sometimes the cap situation gets a little cloudy, but is it more complicated that paying $4 of the $6 million means we also gained an additional 2M in cap space? I wish I was more knowledgeable of the cap and how it works, but it makes my brain spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 i doubt if they couldn't have gotten much more than a 3rd in this year's draft but it would've been better had they got a 4th or 3rd in 2021 too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: A 3rd and future 5th for an expiring player that wasn't going to be resigned? That is a good haul. for a DL who does not get many sacks, yeah, how much more can you really get? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pac said: As predicted people acting like the lowest return we should take was some kind of coup lol... had to be done tho. Who was giving up a 2 for Leo, @Paccagnan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, prime21 said: Good deal for us and bad deal for the Giants. They have to resign him if they gave up two picks in a non winning season. Or they don't spend in FA and get a 3rd or 4th in comp pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Yes because tons of failed Jets drafted by Macc have gone on to stardom elsewhere. How is Darron Lee doing in KC?I said what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, rangerous said: i doubt if they couldn't have gotten much more than a 3rd in this year's draft but it would've been better had they got a 4th or 3rd in 2021 too. We are likely getting a 4th in 2021. If he signs an extension with the Giants (seems likely), that 5th escalates to a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, BettyBoop said: Well hopefully that pick is a center unless we can somehow pry Erik McCoy from the Saints. If so, hopefully that pick is a RT. You're not getting a lynchpin RT with a 3rd round pick. You're probably not getting a lynchpin Center that late either tbqh. But it should get us a O-Line prospect, at least, if Douglas is as good a scout as we hear. Just sad to see how many D Linemen we drafted ultra-high that wound up being nothing for us. Makes it hard to see Q Williams as anything more than just the next Leo in line for shipping elsewhere or cutting loose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Augustiniak said: for a DL who does not get many sacks, yeah, how much more can you really get? funny. williams gets his sack yesterday called back for holding int he secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: Suck what? We just traded a #6 overall pick for a middling 3rd and a maybe 4th/5th some day. And we're paying most of his salary. There is nothing here to gloat or brag about. A 3rd is what we'd expect as a baseline for a guy who performs to Leo's level. We didn't fleece anyone here. Looks like a fair deal for fair compensation. Middling? If the season ended now, the Giants would pick 5th. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, DLJ said: The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win. Joe Douglas hasn't had a draft yet. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1. Joe Douglas didn't draft Leonard Williams. 2. Value is the max amount that a team is willing to give up for Leonard. A contending team would have had to give up a 2 to beat this. Think anyone is giving up a late 2 for an unathletic and disappointing DT who can't rush the passer? Dude give it up.. you were proven wrong AGAIN. Couple of us have been saying for weeks this is the low end of acceptable and we were called crazy. Just because you didnt understand doesn't mean some of us didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Nice trade. Sure, Leo might wake up and finally become a star, but he wasn't here with the Jets, and the Jets have a desperate need to totally rebuild their OL in the draft. The more picks, esp. premium picks (rounds 1-3, the better). Now there's a chance for two OL, a WR and either a CB or Edge with the four current picks in rounds 1-3 next year. I'd imagine Robby is traded, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DLJ said: I said what I said. You do realize the Giants could have just waited until the offseason to sign Leonard Williams, don't you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGreen Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Douglas cleaning up past moronic GMs mistakes. This gives me some hope. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Joe Douglas hasn't had a draft yet. The last two GM’a couldn’t draft for sh*t, what makes you think this one is any different? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Pac said: Dude give it up.. you were proven wrong AGAIN. I don't think you know what the term "proven wrong" means. "Proven wrong" would be like when you called Geno Smith a good QB over and over again. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DLJ said: The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app so let him walk for free? what are you dudes rambling about ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Who was giving up a 2 for Leo, @Paccagnan? Last week it was who's giving up a 3rd... week before that was no way anyone giving up a 3rd and 5th.. you were wrong. I called this exact return of picks weeks ago. Go back to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DLJ said: The last two GM’a couldn’t draft for sh*t, what makes you think this one is any different? He wasn't hired by the Johnson's, so that's a change. And the answer isn't to assume the GM can't draft and avoid going after picks. Literally the only proven way to build a contender is thru the draft. Did you want him to trade away all his picks and try to overpay free agents to come here instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It’s a good return for Douglas. You have to assume Leo’s agent indicated to the Giants he would re-sign with them. A good deal for Leo who can stay in the area doesn’t have to move. The Jets should be sellers we are way out of it but so are the Giants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The over riding feeling is indifference. Shrug. decent value now but just another wasted first round DL - this one advertised as the next “Reggie White” with and opportunity cost of Todd Gurley. Another rotation on the merry go round of suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I don't think you know what the term "proven wrong" means. I don't think you know what the term 'proven wrong' means on the internet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: We are likely getting a 4th in 2021. If he signs an extension with the Giants (seems likely), that 5th escalates to a 4th. thanks. i'm glad they traded williams and a 3rd alone is probably okay given the trade atmosphere, especially since the giants will be drafting top ten. the 5th made it better and if it escalates it's better stil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Good trade for the Jets. No way he could be resigned.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Pac said: Last week it was who's giving up a 3rd... week before that job way anyone giving up a 3rd and 5th.. you were wrong. I called this exact return of picks weeks ago. Go back to bed. Really? You called that a non-contending team would give up a 3rd plus a 2021 4th? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 THANK HEAVENS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DLJ said: The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Yes, we know. The last two GMs were historically bad at picking players in the NFL draft. But, we have a new GM now and the only way we are ever getting out of this mess is to draft well. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I don't think you know what the term 'proven wrong' means on the internet. I know right, Aten.. wtf with that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I’ll take a 3rd and a 5th. Solid trade. Let’s see who he uses those picks on. As of now I’m happy with the extra draft capital.(especially from a 2-6 team) That's the key in this deal. I read where the 5th in 21 becomes a 4th if the Giants resign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Pac said: I know right, Aten.. wtf with that guy. This wasn't him supporting you, just so you know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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