Rangers9 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Look Gettleman isn’t a bad talent evaluator. And Leo isn’t a bad player. He isn’t a sack guy but he can be a key guy and contributor. They played him more over Quinnen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 For trade context: Jadaveon Clowney, a much more productive pass rusher, was traded for a 3rd in 2020 and two throw in players that have produced very very little this year. The Jets got great value for an inferior player. Including the fact that the 3rd they got from the Giants will for sure be a better pick than the 3rd the Texans got from the Seahawks. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 We are likely getting a 4th in 2021. If he signs an extension with the Giants (seems likely), that 5th escalates to a 4th. Nice work by Joe, there is nothing not to like about this deal. In fact, I hope he has a monster 2nd half so the Giants will go all out to lock him up long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 What a pity it got to this point. Consensus BAP for the win! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Middling? If the season ended now, the Giants would pick 5th. If you want to spank the monkey over a 3rd round pick for a #6 pick player, be my guest. It's amazing watching you people try and shine sh*t and call it gold. Let me put this into perspective for you: We just traded Leo, a #6 pick and "best player in the draft" i.e. another failed Jets DLineman.....for the equivalent of an ArDarius Stewart and a Chad Hanson to be named later. Better than nothing, not nearly as good as having picked a guy who didn't suck in the first place. Sure, be glad we got something, but gloating over this is like gloating at making a tackle when down 42-3. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, SR24 said: Gotta hope Leo signs an extension. Excellent work from Joe D here likely giving us 2 early picks in the 3rd round. I am not sure what this means? Williams salary was over $14M this season, not $6M. I assume they meant pro-rated, but the season isn't half over yet, so it should still be over $7M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: that steaming turd williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 IDK I see Leo better as a 4/3 DE, am I the only one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, David Harris said: The over riding feeling is indifference. Shrug. decent value now but just another wasted first round DL - this one advertised as the next “Reggie White” with and opportunity cost of Todd Gurley. Another rotation on the merry go round of suck Macc should never work in the NFL again. Not even as an area scout. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Plen T Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Warfish said: If you want to spank the monkey over a 3rd round pick for a #6 pick player, be my guest. It's amazing watching you people try and shine sh*t and call it gold. Let me put this into perspective for you: We just traded Leo, a #6 pick and "best player in the draft" i.e. another failed Jets DLineman.....for the equivalent of an ArDarius Stewart and a Chad Hanson to be named later. Better than nothing, not nearly as good as having picked a guy who didn't suck in the first place. Sure, be glad we got something, but gloating over this is like gloating at making a tackle when down 42-3. terrible take we're here now and Leo is a bum that wasn't being resigned, and they got more than the Texans got for Jadeveon Clowney that's a hell of a trade 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, deucebag said: IDK I see Leo better as a 4/3 DE, am I the only one? Weren't we told all offseason Gregg Williams was going to run 4-3 sets and get the most out of Leo? If the breakout season wasn't going to come under a veteran DC like GW, it's not likely going to happen under James Bettcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Rangers9 said: Look Gettleman isn’t a bad talent evaluator. And Leo isn’t a bad player. He isn’t a sack guy but he can be a key guy and contributor. They played him more over Quinnen. If one is inclined to optimism for no identifiable reason, as most of you are, it could be argued that Quinnen's managed workload represents the Jets finally doing it right for a change. How many snaps did the other DL we drafted play out of the gate and how did it turn out? How about Donald, Suh, Cox, etc.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 You're not getting a lynchpin RT with a 3rd round pick. You're probably not getting a lynchpin Center that late either tbqh. But it should get us a O-Line prospect, at least, if Douglas is as good a scout as we hear. Jason Fabini was a 4th rounder. Happens more often than most people think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: If you want to spank the monkey over a 3rd round pick for a #6 pick player, be my guest. It's amazing watching you people try and shine sh*t and call it gold. Let me put this into perspective for you: We just traded Leo, a #6 pick and "best player in the draft" i.e. another failed Jets DLineman.....for the equivalent of an ArDarius Stewart and a Chad Hanson to be named later. Better than nothing, not nearly as good as having picked a guy who didn't suck in the first place. Sure, be glad we got something, but gloating over this is like gloating at making a tackle when down 42-3. Sunk cost fallacy BORING 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Well hopefully that pick is a center unless we can somehow pry Erik McCoy from the Saints. If so, hopefully that pick is a RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It’s a sham Big Cat never worked out here. Wish him the best with the Gmen. Would’ve been foolish to allocate big money to him. Jets gaining draft capital is a good move. Douglas just needs to get the job done now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post prime21 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 I don't believe him being a #6 pick in the draft had any bearing on his trade value today. We got as much as we could for someone we weren't resigning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BettyBoop Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 The key to this trade and any other trades Douglas makes is Douglas has to draft good players. Period. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: If you want to spank the monkey over a 3rd round pick for a #6 pick player, be my guest. It's amazing watching you people try and shine sh*t and call it gold. Let me put this into perspective for you: We just traded Leo, a #6 pick and "best player in the draft" i.e. another failed Jets DLineman.....for the equivalent of an ArDarius Stewart and a Chad Hanson to be named later. Better than nothing, not nearly as good as having picked a guy who didn't suck in the first place. Sure, be glad we got something, but gloating over this is like gloating at making a tackle when down 42-3. I'm not spanking sh*t. You're the one polishing your "Best Player in the Draft" trophy. How many wins did that get you? The ******* guy is earning $14.2M this season to provide Kyle Phillips level production. He is a UFA this offseason that we probably won't resign. I don't see this as some great coup, but it is a pretty decent return, considering. I didn't know that correcting your characterization of the Giants draft pick constituted gloating, but I guess your cranky cause Nats. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: You're not getting a lynchpin RT with a 3rd round pick. You're probably not getting a lynchpin Center that late either tbqh. But it should get us a O-Line prospect, at least, if Douglas is as good a scout as we hear. Just sad to see how many D Linemen we drafted ultra-high that wound up being nothing for us. Makes it hard to see Q Williams as anything more than just the next Leo in line for shipping elsewhere or cutting loose. early 3rd round pick can be a starting G or RT. also think they'll be trading back in the first round to get even more picks. the jets are going to have a lot of picks this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'll take it. Let's keep it going with Robbie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, extmenace said: He will get at least 3 sacks when they play the Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: If one is inclined to optimism for no identifiable reason, as most of you are, it could be argued that Quinnen's managed workload represents the Jets finally doing it right for a change. How many snaps did the other DL we drafted play out of the gate and how did it turn out? How about Donald, Suh, Cox, etc.? Jets fan optimism generally consists of identifying one outlier and clinging to “it’s possible.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, BettyBoop said: The key to this trade and any other trades Douglas makes is Douglas has to draft good players. Period. This. If Joe is as good at drafting talent as Gase is at being QB/Offensive Guru, we're still screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, tdoublee said: Jason Fabini was a 4th rounder. Happens more often than most people think. Jason Fabini was drafted in 1998. So once every 21 years? Is that more often than most people think? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, shawn306 said: He will get at least 3 sacks when they play the Jets that's not saying much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Plen T said: terrible take we're here now and Leo is a bum that wasn't being resigned, and they got more than the Texans got for Jadeveon Clowney that's a hell of a trade You have no idea how good of a trade it is till we use those picks and see what they are, and how Leo plays in Giants Blue. But by all means, celebrate that yet another Jets top 10 pick turned out to be a failure here. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, prime21 said: I don't believe him being a #6 pick in the draft had any bearing on his trade value today. We got as much as we could for someone we weren't resigning. Exactly. We've all discussed Macc's many draft failures many times. Some people are acting like anything less than getting the # 6 overall pick back for Leo is bad news today. No one was going to give us a 2nd round pick. Hence, we got the max value we could out of Leo, at the end of his contract. That's worth being happy about. All Douglas can do is make the best out of a bad hand he was dealt here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, DLJ said: The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You know JD can’t draft for sure because how? Because of Macc or whoever? Logical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Good trade JD! Keep the trades coming! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, jgb said: Jets fan optimism generally consists of identifying one outlier and clinging to “it’s possible.” And getting the Dumb & Dumber quote wrong. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswin Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Art Shell and Jackie Slater were 3rd rounders ...make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: If one is inclined to optimism for no identifiable reason, as most of you are, it could be argued that Quinnen's managed workload represents the Jets finally doing it right for a change. How many snaps did the other DL we drafted play out of the gate and how did it turn out? How about Donald, Suh, Cox, etc.? Wilkerson seemed to have been developed pretty nicely. Right up to the point he got the paycheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, DLJ said: The Jets can’t draft for sh*t— not sure how this is a win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You're not sure? ...Leo was going to walk. Given the number of FAs we're likely to sign next year, not even sure we'd get a comp pick... And you're wondering how this win?? On the other hand, given the jets drafting habits tho, to your point it's kind of irrelevant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'll say exactly what I said when KO got cut, good he sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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