deucebag Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Weren't we told all offseason Gregg Williams was going to run 4-3 sets and get the most out of Leo? If the breakout season wasn't going to come under a veteran DC like GW, it's not likely going to happen under James Bettcher. Yeah we were LOL, earlier in the season there were some 4-3 sets, maybe losing Henry Anderson stopped that. One thing tho, Dexter Lawrence and Davlin Tomilson are much more talented than anyone Leo was sharing the DL with on the Jets - so I do expect an uptick in Leo's performance. I hope the trade means we bring Bronson Kafusi up from the practice squad - I thought he played well last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 How many sacks and tackles will Leo have when the Giants and Jets play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Warfish said: But by all means, celebrate that yet another Jets top 10 pick turned out to be a failure here. Literally no one is celebrating that. What do you want us to do, sh*t on Macc some more? Because I'll gladly do that. But today's thread is about our new GM getting the most he could out of a player on an expiring contract. Those are 2 separate discussions entirely. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I’ll kill you if this is a prank!!!!! I'll kill him too after you're finished killing him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: early 3rd round pick can be a starting G or RT. also think they'll be trading back in the first round to get even more picks. the jets are going to have a lot of picks this year. Which is good. We certainly have a ton of talent-holes to fill. Macc has left this team bereft of both depth and front-line-talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Exactly. We've all discussed Macc's many draft failures many times. Some people are acting like anything less than getting the # 6 overall pick back for Leo is bad news today. No one was going to give us a 2nd round pick. Hence, we got the max value we could out of Leo, at the end of his contract. That's worth being happy about. All Douglas can do is make the best out of a bad hand he was dealt here. early 3rd round pick next year for run stuffing DL is good. draft position is irrelevant now. i also think douglas will look to trade back in the first round to get more draft capital, unlike mccagnan. also the more picks he can acquire, the less overall pressure there will be to reach for OL in 1st round if there are other offensive playmakers there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFCEastFan Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 Seems like a great trade for the Jets and a waste of draft capital for the Giants. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Paradis said: You're not sure? ...Leo was going to walk. Given the number of FAs we're likely to sign next year, not even sure we'd get a comp pick... And you're wondering how this win?? On the other hand, given the jets drafting habits tho, to your point it's kind of irrelevant. Have no choice but hope JD is the man. What else do we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: You have no idea how good of a trade it is till we use those picks and see what they are, and how Leo plays in Giants Blue. But by all means, celebrate that yet another Jets top 10 pick turned out to be a failure here. Why did you come here to lecture fans? To bitch about a trade. Another post whining about fans acting like fans. But hey, PAC agrees with this shlt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The third will be spent on a kicker from Kean University. Bank on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Good value for a guy who had no future here. Looking forward to the next first round pick who actually manages to earn a second contract here. It's been a while. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peekskill68 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: ILet me put this into perspective for you: We just traded Leo, a #6 pick and "best player in the draft" i.e. another failed Jets DLineman.....for the equivalent of an ArDarius Stewart and a Chad Hanson to be named later. Russell Wilson, TY Hilton, Alvin Kamara, Jason Witten, Steve Smith, Justin Houston were all 3rd round picks. Why not see wait and see what Douglas can do before peeing in everyone's Cheerios... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, New York Mick said: How many sacks and tackles will Leo have when the Giants and Jets play? 7 tackles. 2 forced fumbles, 1 recovery. 1.5 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: early 3rd round pick can be a starting G or RT. also think they'll be trading back in the first round to get even more picks. the jets are going to have a lot of picks this year. I really hope they can go LT in round one (Thomas or Wirfs?) and then C in round 2. Third round should have some decent WR prospects in a draft supposedly deep at that position. CB? Edge? Also, round 3 is fine for grabbing a G. Another thing about an extra 3rd is ammo to move up. Got a blue chip C available late in the first, maybe package your early 2nd and early 3rd to move up, though I'd rather the Jets move down and get more picks. This roster is awful and need to be totally redone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Williams is a Free Agent, if the Giants extend his contract the 5th rounder becomes a 4th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Macc should never work in the NFL again. Not even as an area scout. Don't think you'll have to worry about that happening. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: What if Leo gets 3 sacks next game? ..he'll probably get 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, fullblast said: Good value for a guy who had no future here. Looking forward to the next first round pick who actually manages to earn a second contract here. It's been a while. And that may have been Mo Wilk!? Yikes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I think Leo is talented but turned out to be a tad lazy. Kyle Phillips motor and hustle made this trade possible. Phillips has out played Leo all season. Yes I said it. Anderson returning will help us also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: You have no idea how good of a trade it is till we use those picks and see what they are, and how Leo plays in Giants Blue. No. That's how you judge how good those picks and Leonard's extension are. His performance the rest of this season already has an ascertainable value to us of zero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, TheClashFan said: I really hope they can go LT in round one (Thomas or Wirfs?) and then C in round 2. Third round should have some decent WR prospects in a draft supposedly deep at that position. CB? Edge? Also, round 3 is fine for grabbing a G. Another thing about an extra 3rd is ammo to move up. Got a blue chip C available last in the first, maybe package your early 2nd and early 4rd to move up, though I'd rather the Jets move down and get more picks. This roster is awful and need to be totally redone. with this roster i would say it's more likely they move back than up. this draft should have more offensive prospects so it could be a perfect storm if they can trade back in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, DLJ said: The last two GM’a couldn’t draft for sh*t, what makes you think this one is any different? Anyone who got a 3rd and an additional pick for Leo is a pretty good IMO. Fair deal for the Jets. You could turn that extra 3rd with an additional pick and maybe move back into the 2nd. Now get something of value for Robbie and I will be so happy with Douglas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 A couple picks are better than nothing... I expected like a 4th and a 7th so this goes over my expectations at least a little... Now keep trading people! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, jgb said: Have no choice but hope JD is the man. What else do we have? I'm willing to sacrifice my youngest if it influences JD and our draft luck. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, section314 said: Meaning 2020, right? 3rd in 2020; 5th in 2021. 5th turns into a 4th if the Giants extend Williams contract beyond this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Augustiniak Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, TNJet said: I think Leo is talented but turned out to be a tad lazy. Kyle Phillips motor and hustle made this trade possible. Phillips has out played Leo all season. Yes I said it. Anderson returning will help us also. if you can't get sacks then you're a big body who can be replaced by another cheaper big body. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Literally no one is celebrating that. What do you want us to do, sh*t on Macc some more? Because I'll gladly do that. But today's thread is about our new GM getting the most he could out of a player on an expiring contract. Those are 2 separate discussions entirely. Do whatever you like. IMO this is a "meh, ok, least we got something for our failure" moment, not a "WOW DOUGLAS IS SO SMART WE FLEECED THEM VAGIANTS GUD AREN'T WE GREAT" moment. /shrug, I'll never understand this fanbase. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Trade robby too 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetbeggar Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: As a side note: I totally expect him to have a 3 sack game when they play us in two weeks. Douglas should have put a provision into the trade that we also get a 6th round pick if Williams records 3 or more sacks in that game. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Seth Walder ESPN Analytics Leonard Williams' pass rush win rate as a defensive tackle this season is 7%, which ranks 36th out of 56 qualifiers at the position. > https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: 7 tackles. 2 forced fumbles, 1 recovery. 1.5 sacks. So you're saying, he'll continue to perform below-average when compared to all others who have gone against the Jets' OL? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Good deal. Now trade anyone else worth anything. They aren’t helping the jets win anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Do whatever you like. Thank you for the permission. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: What if Leo gets 3 sacks next game? Then he could take the rest of the year off and still hit his season totals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: with this roster i would say it's more likely they move back than up. this draft should have more offensive prospects so it could be a perfect storm if they can trade back in the first. I totally agree unless this season goes so badly that they have a chance for Thomas. He looks like a monster prospect but probably goes in the top 3-4 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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