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What Grade to you give Douglas for the Leo Trade  

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  1. 1. What Grade to you give Douglas for the Leo Trade


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Joe Douglas traded pending FA Leonard Williams to the New York Giants at the trade deadline for a 2020 3rd round pick and a 2021 5th round pick that escalates to a 2021 4th round pick if Leo is re-signed by the Giants.

What grade do you give him all things considered?

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Good compensation for a guy who never even came close to living up to his draft position. Leo seemed like a good locker room guy and was durable but just never caught on good luck to him but this was a solid move

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I mean it's fine... His production was low so his value was pretty low. They had to get something for him here and every other team knew that.

It would have been a colossal failure to not trade him at all. 

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A - on his best day, he is a very average football player... his effort is nonexistent. It's amazing that the Giants were willing to part with what they did for him

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It currently doesn’t help the team and I don’t know who they’re going to draft with the picks so it’s impossible to grade.
If they get a pro bowler with one of the picks it would be an A if they get 2 guys who never see the field it would be an F and in between depending on how good the players drafted are. 

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He got the max value he could have gotten out of Leonard Williams.  No contending team was going to give us a 2.  Thus, its an A.  

Those who are saying anything less than an A either think value was left on the table (nope) or are tacking on blame for Williams being taken # 6 overall and failing here under 2 regimes on Joe Douglas.  

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Gettleman out here doin gods work. Wasnt their second first round pick this year a run stuffing IDL also? Sounds like hes taking a page out of the Mike Macagnan playbook.

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Its an absolute A.  The Giants are going to resign him so we will get a high 3rd and a high 4th.  Id love getting a new running back with one of our 3rds next year.

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It’s an A but it’s built on another F selection by Macc so hard to be jubilant

Incredibly 9 short months ago Leo was held out by Macc supporters (yes, they existed) as one of Macc’s good moves.

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12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Actually it does.  This opens up more snaps for Quinnen Williams and Kyle Phillips.  

If they were better then Leo and Gase/Williams kept them on the bench they should both be fired. 

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Just now, New York Mick said:

If they were better then Leo and Gase/Williams kept them on the bench they should both be fired. 

They were trying to showcase Leo for a trade.  It worked.  

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1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Knowing this forum fairly well:

People who hated Leonard Williams will be the same people that  hated this trade. 

I hate Leonard Williams and loved the trade. 

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15 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Actually it does.  This opens up more snaps for Quinnen Williams and Kyle Phillips.  

Phillips as been a bright spot for the Jets. He’s had more impact than Leo.

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I give it a B.  I'll raise it to an A if he doesn't cause us to lose the Giants game or hurt Sam. 

We all know his first sack of the season will be in against us. 

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If you ignore his draft slot which is a sunk cost at this point it's a good deal

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If you ignore his draft slot which is a sunk cost at this point it's a good deal

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Just now, CTM said:

If you ignore his draft slot which is a sunk cost at this point it's a good deal

Since Douglas isn't the one who drafted Leo, you have to ignore the draft slot, no?

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B. I think we will see a differance without leo plus quinnen hasn't been able to stay healthy. The season has not been a good one for us but we are approaching the easiest part of it and the best thing we could do for darnold and the rest of our locker room is win games. The compensation is pretty good for a player we were not going to resign and is on the last year of his contract.

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Just now, New York Mick said:

Lmao

What was the alternative?  Sit Leo down in a contract year?  All offseason we had people telling us that the breakout year was coming from Leo now that a "real DC" was here.  It never happened.  Luckily, Dave Gettleman is dumb.  

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