Barry McCockinner Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: He wasn't the GM though, was he? Wasn't it Tannenbaum? That said, I'd absolutely bring him back to the organization in some capacity. HC would be fine. Team president would also be fine. Maybe I'm wrong about this but I think he's absolutely a legit football guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, JiF said: At this point, I'm even confused which letter I apply to with all the tags I get from you. You should be flattered you get this much attention from beaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 Mangini was the one guy the jets should have stuck with and given a long period of time. The rest of our louts should have been fired much sooner. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Nobody ever took responsibility for Gholston, but that whole first round was Bust Central. I'm sure there will be much denial. No one will now take credit for it. But I remembered reading about it and I think this was the Daily News article I read https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/source-ex-coach-eric-mangini-pushed-new-york-jets-draft-disappointing-linebacker-vernon-gholston-article-1.417481 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 what has Mangini done since being fired here? Oh that’s right he went got fired by the browns . Then fired by niners . Hasn’t coached since 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Francesa has been on a pro-Mangini kick the last few days, which usually means someone from the Mangini camp is in Mike’s ear. Anyway, Mike shared something I’d never heard regarding why Mangini was fired after 9-7. Ready to puke? Here it is::: Woody Johnson was upset that Vernon Gholston wasn’t playing more and Mangini told Woody to take a hike. Like, holy sh*t. Woody Johnson caping for Vernon f*cking Gholston and then Woody getting butthurt that Mangini wouldn’t relent on giving him playing time. Imagine that. Another reason we need Woody Johnson to sell the damn team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It's no mystery why this franchise is a sh*t show. Poor leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: My recollection was that the Jets did all they could to trade down and nobody wanted to come up for this guy. Gholston was a classic risk/reward pick....either a Bosa or a bust. We know how it turned out. I just think the Jets couldn't stomach something like taking a 2nd or 3rd rounder to move down 8 spots, and that's probably all somebody was offering. They held their nose and made the pick. Gholston was a stiff and was a fairly obvious bust to be imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I'm sure there will be much denial. No one will now take credit for it. But I remembered reading about it and I think this was the Daily News article I read https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/source-ex-coach-eric-mangini-pushed-new-york-jets-draft-disappointing-linebacker-vernon-gholston-article-1.417481 Everything always gets blamed on the guy who got fired yet the team's fortunes persistently fail to turn completely round. I'm sure this time is the charm tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: what has Mangini done since being fired here? Oh that’s right he went got fired by the browns . Then fired by niners . Hasn’t coached since He didn't have weaponz. Not his fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Essentially what’s happening with Trumaine Johnson right now I’d bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I'm sure there will be much denial. No one will now take credit for it. But I remembered reading about it and I think this was the Daily News article I read https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/source-ex-coach-eric-mangini-pushed-new-york-jets-draft-disappointing-linebacker-vernon-gholston-article-1.417481 I'm pretty comfortable with the notion that Mangini was picking the players during his time here. T0m wants to give him credit for Mangold and Revis but pretend Gholston and Favre was Tanny/Woody's fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Hmmm: A story about an owner who’s got zero football acumen telling his head coach/ GM who to play. Exactly the reason Belichick quite soon after Woody bought the Jets. i believe it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Does anyone really care what that obnoxious blowhard has to say? Even his wife made him go back to work 'cuz she couldn't stand his bs around the house all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said: This can’t be true. I can’t even picture Mangina having the balls to tell Woody to take a hike. I also couldn’t picture that spineless weirdo Woody bossing anyone around. He seems like a cuck douche. ? Whole reason the guy isn’t a NFL HC is huge balls actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: He wasn't the GM though, was he? Wasn't it Tannenbaum? That said, I'd absolutely bring him back to the organization in some capacity. HC would be fine. Team president would also be fine. Maybe I'm wrong about this but I think he's absolutely a legit football guy. True - this is Tannenbaum (The last Parcells relic) & Mangini. It's always a collaboration between GM & HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, CTM said: I'm pretty comfortable with the notion that Mangini was picking the players during his time here. T0m wants to give him credit for Mangold and Revis but pretend Gholston and Favre was Tanny/Woody's fault I just see the apparent m.o. in 2008 as far as personnel as being way more in line with 09-12 than with 06-07. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: ? Whole reason the guy isn’t a NFL HC is huge balls actually I just couldn’t picture it. I have no basis to feel this way. I just think mangina was a douche. You guys are right I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Mangini was the one guy the jets should have stuck with and given a long period of time. The rest of our louts should have been fired much sooner. Ego too big without the early success but I agree the best HC since Parcells 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said: I just couldn’t picture it. I have no basis to feel this way. I just think mangina was a douche. You guys are right I’m sure. I think his mo was more about being unlikable, huge ego, but was actually a smart guy/good coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: True - this is Tannenbaum (The last Parcells relic) & Mangini. It's always a collaboration between GM & HC. Mangini was apparently heavily involved in the predraft screening. They had one of the more intense processes in the league at the time and he conducted the 1 on 1's in Indianapolis at the combine. Wanted guys who were team captains in college, lived for football etc. There were some misses (Schelgel) but the mid rounds produced a bunch of good and useful players for the Jets. He also drafted a few ring of honor guys at the top. Certainly better than what they've been doing over the last 12 years or so. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I just see the apparent m.o. in 2008 as far as personnel as being way more in line with 09-12 than with 06-07. Well I mean that is a long history and obviously Mangini wanted nothing to do with Favre, the whole naming his kid after him thing was also Tanny's idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTheJohnsons Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 We all argue about Rex, Gase, Bowles, Idzik, MAC, Sanchez, Darnold, Geno, Fitzcrapsh*t, etc. but the real problems is unfixable, we have God awful ownership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, CTM said: Well I mean that is a long history and obviously Mangini wanted nothing to do with Favre, the whole naming his kid after of him was also Tanny's idea The moves were hardly all bad, and there are Mangini's two years in Cleveland to compare also. Faneca/Pace/Woody/Favre/Jenkins sticks out like a sore thumb but it's business as usual for Tannenbaum. The other thing on Gholston is the part in Collision Low Crossers where it talks about how the combine model Mangini used put agility numbers at a premium, which contributed to the Revis pick and would have reflected real badly on Gholston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, I just never got the impression that Mangini was meek, as you’re suggesting. This is a dude that bullied Revis to the point that Revis wanted to quit. You mean the Mangini that has been trying to reconcile and apologize to Bellichick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: You mean the Mangini that has been trying to reconcile and apologize to Bellichick? Hi Scott. Didn’t you lose our bet that the team wouldn’t win more than two games in their first seven weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: Hi Scott. Didn’t you lose our bet that the team wouldn’t win more than two games in their first seven weeks? That is right. Receipt to be sent to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: The moves were hardly all bad, and there are Mangini's two years in Cleveland to compare also. Faneca/Pace/Woody/Favre/Jenkins sticks out like a sore thumb but it's business as usual for Tannenbaum. The other thing on Gholston is the part in Collision Low Crossers where it talks about how the combine model Mangini used put agility numbers at a premium, which contributed to the Revis pick and would have reflected real badly on Gholston. I don't remember that I remember some silly thing about expecting players to remember everyones name that pissed Bowe off. EIther way, Mangini has been failed 2x at the top spot and is out of work. The idea that he was some savant like T0m will have you believe isn't supported by much of anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: That is right. Receipt to be sent to you I actually don’t even remember the bet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: I actually don’t even remember the bet lol I will make good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said: This can’t be true. I can’t even picture Mangina having the balls to tell Woody to take a hike. I also couldn’t picture that spineless weirdo Woody bossing anyone around. He seems like a cuck douche. Something happened. Mangini was told if he played along with the Favre move no matter what the outcome he wouldn't be fired. It almost worked until Favre got hurt and made a mess.And Mangini got fired anyway. It's among the reasons among the legion of them why many good football people don't want to work here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, CTM said: I don't remember that I remember some silly thing about expecting players to remember everyones name that pissed Bowe off. EIther way, Mangini has been failed 2x at the top spot and is out of work. The idea that he was some savant like T0m will have you believe isn't supported by much of anything My fault. It was in War Room, not the Dawidoff book. I had to look it up too. And I don't know that I'd characterize either of those stints as failures if I were to give Mangini the benefit of the doubt for sh*t circumstances the way you do with Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Yup puke worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: My fault. It was in War Room, not the Dawidoff book. I had to look it up too. And I don't know that I'd characterize either of those stints as failures if I were to give Mangini the benefit of the doubt for sh*t circumstances the way you do with Darnold. Ha, 2 weeks ago I was called a hater and now a fluffer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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