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Jamal Adams: Jets “Went Behind my Back, Shopped me”

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I think it is the exact opposite with non premium positions.

Teams in desperate to win now mode in season will offer more than when they sit back look at their team and say, hey we can get a SS in the 4th round or hey look at that guy in Fa who we can get.

Yeah I can see that being a possibility as well. No way we get the multiple 1s or 1 and 2 2s that was reported that we wanted but hopefully a mid round 1 and a 2 . We’ll see 

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1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Do these Adams tweets really resonate with anyone? What the hell was he thinking? He cares way too much about social media. Win games, make an impact and then build your “brand”

It's for show. Pretend you don't grasp something simple, get indignant, see what shakes out. It's like LeBron's second stint in Cleveland when he kept vocally wondering why the team wasn't acquiring players when he knew perfectly well that it was because they were capped out with no movable pieces. Although obviously you can't rule out the possibility that Adams is legitimately too stupid to distinguish between placing calls and answering them.

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9 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

I believe what Boomer said this morning that Dallas was pressuring the Jets by creating a situation where they knew Adams would have some interest in playing for them, they created a buzz around him being traded (actually tampering), and tried to force the Jets into making a trade that would be less than value.

Dallas was trolling the Jets here. And, apparently Jet fans too.

How would any of that pressure the Jets into doing anything? That’s absurd

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Just now, T0mShane said:

How would any of that pressure the Jets into doing anything? That’s absurd

By creating some apparent discord between the Jets and Adams (worked), understanding that Adams is an emotional type and would welcome a trade to his hometown team and playoff contender (worked), all in the vein of forcing the Jets to do something stupid through a stampede of sentiment (they tried).

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

By creating some apparent discord between the Jets and Adams (worked), understanding that Adams is an emotional type and would welcome a trade to his hometown team and playoff contender (worked), all in the vein of forcing the Jets to do something stupid through a stampede of sentiment (they tried).

 

 

You’re saying that Jerry Jones initiated a psy-op on the entire Jets fan base and it worked

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1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

You’re saying that Jerry Jones initiated a psy-op on the entire Jets fan base and it worked

The fan base is just collateral damage. But, have you seen the posts?

Have you seen the Cowboys site, with the tampering?

 

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So, bottom line:  we passed on a first and another pick 

 

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13 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

The fan base is just collateral damage. But, have you seen the posts?

Have you seen the Cowboys site, with the tampering?

 

Win-win for the Cowboys. They get to pretend they really wanted Adams but, gosh darn it, the Jets were just so unreasonable! 

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1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

What’s pathetic is that the national media is running with a “Jets are a circus” headline today—solely because of Adams—and Douglas and Gase have to do the clean-up for him. That’s the diametric opposite of leadership from Adams. What an absolute bitch.

He's not, and never was a leader.  He's a hype man.

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34 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Win-win for the Cowboys. They get to pretend they really wanted Adams but, gosh darn it, the Jets were just so unreasonable! 

And they get to publicly claim a desire for a player under contract (tampering) to put pressure on the Jets and create discord.

Really the Jets should contact the league, but of course the league will not do anything.

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52 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

The fan base is just collateral damage. But, have you seen the posts?

Have you seen the Cowboys site, with the tampering?

 

That is crazy that the Cowboys have an article on their site about trying to acquire Adams. And it says the reason it didn't happen was because the Jets price was too high. Unreal.

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i usually support adams, but he's just trying to save face.  His agent and people he's talked to let it be known he wants to go to dallas.  Hell he's said so as much in the pre draft process he would love to play for dallas.   I would argue that if they jets dont markedly improve they probably lose him in FA to dallas if they have the room for the massive contract he'll want.  

That being said, this whole anger about going behind his back is a cheap shot at an organization that is down and viewed as a mess.  Easy to get the fans on your side after basically being outed as wanting to leave by making the organization, who the fans already dont trust, look even more ridiculous. 

 

End of the day this is damage control with the fans for adams image, but unfortunately for him theres been too many people coming out in support of douglas in this situation so its not going to go anywere. 

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3 minutes ago, Maxman said:

That is crazy that the Cowboys have an article on their site about trying to acquire Adams. And it says the reason it didn't happen was because the Jets price was too high. Unreal.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/29/cowboys-acknowledge-interest-in-jamal-adams-prior-to-trade-deadline/

The Cowboys reportedly tried to swing a trade for Jets safety Jamal Adams. We know this in part because the Cowboys published an article and posted a tweet acknowledging their interest.

Cowboys Had Interest, But Couldn’t Land Adams” is the title of the article on the team’s official website. The tweet with the link to the article conveyed the same message.

The article itself says that the Cowboys “reportedly” had interest in Adams, but that’s a nuance not conveyed by the headline or the tweet. Ultimately, the headline and the tweet constitute an expression of interest by the web properties owned and operated by the Cowboys in a player who is under contract with the Jets through 2020, and 2021 if/when the Jets exercise their fifth-year option.

“Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy,” declares the NFL’s Anti-Tampering Policy. In this regard, the policy contains an important caveat: “Articles that appear on the website of a club that identify prospective free agents that the team might be interested in, or that rate prospective free agents, shall not be considered violations of the Anti-Tampering Policy unless they include a direct quote or expression of interest by an employee of the club (other than the author of the article) about a specific player.”

But Adams isn’t a prospective free agent. He won’t be a free agent until 2021 at the earliest or, if the option is exercised, 2022. That exception, which by its terms applies to offseason website articles identifying players that the team may target, has nothing to do with a player who is more than a year — and likely more than two years — from hitting the market.

So what will happen? Undoubtedly, nothing. The NFL has realized that, whether it’s the tampering policy or the injury reporting rules or anything else that teams routinely violate, aggressive enforcement inevitably would result in a stream of acknowledgements that the league is full of cheaters. And that wouldn’t be good for the league, or its oft-cheating teams.

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1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/29/cowboys-acknowledge-interest-in-jamal-adams-prior-to-trade-deadline/

The Cowboys reportedly tried to swing a trade for Jets safety Jamal Adams. We know this in part because the Cowboys published an article and posted a tweet acknowledging their interest.

Cowboys Had Interest, But Couldn’t Land Adams” is the title of the article on the team’s official website. The tweet with the link to the article conveyed the same message.

The article itself says that the Cowboys “reportedly” had interest in Adams, but that’s a nuance not conveyed by the headline or the tweet. Ultimately, the headline and the tweet constitute an expression of interest by the web properties owned and operated by the Cowboys in a player who is under contract with the Jets through 2020, and 2021 if/when the Jets exercise their fifth-year option.

“Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy,” declares the NFL’s Anti-Tampering Policy. In this regard, the policy contains an important caveat: “Articles that appear on the website of a club that identify prospective free agents that the team might be interested in, or that rate prospective free agents, shall not be considered violations of the Anti-Tampering Policy unless they include a direct quote or expression of interest by an employee of the club (other than the author of the article) about a specific player.”

But Adams isn’t a prospective free agent. He won’t be a free agent until 2021 at the earliest or, if the option is exercised, 2022. That exception, which by its terms applies to offseason website articles identifying players that the team may target, has nothing to do with a player who is more than a year — and likely more than two years — from hitting the market.

So what will happen? Undoubtedly, nothing. The NFL has realized that, whether it’s the tampering policy or the injury reporting rules or anything else that teams routinely violate, aggressive enforcement inevitably would result in a stream of acknowledgements that the league is full of cheaters. And that wouldn’t be good for the league, or its oft-cheating teams.

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Insanity.

When Woody mentioned Revis is his press conference years ago he was immediately told he messed up. Several Jets employees told him right away that he shouldn't have done that. Woody called Kraft immediately. He apologized and said he answered a question about Revis but his intent wasn't to tamper. The season was over and Revis was going to be a free agent. Kraft took the call and Woody thought everything was fine.

They hung up and Woody went about his day. The Jets were notified that night that the Patriots had filed tampering charges against the Jets.

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17 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Good riddance.  All this laughable nonsense of him being a leader and such and he is bailing like a baby after a little adversity,

And no he is not the best player on this team and his value towards winning is minimal.  Rontez freakin miles would have the same effect on this team as adams

 

Not another ridiculous R Miles comment

Its like a role call for lunacy, right up there with he’s only a box safety.  

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Never seen a group of fans kill someone for saying this business is crazy and putting so much time and effort into dissecting it

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1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/29/cowboys-acknowledge-interest-in-jamal-adams-prior-to-trade-deadline/

The Cowboys reportedly tried to swing a trade for Jets safety Jamal Adams. We know this in part because the Cowboys published an article and posted a tweet acknowledging their interest.

Cowboys Had Interest, But Couldn’t Land Adams” is the title of the article on the team’s official website. The tweet with the link to the article conveyed the same message.

The article itself says that the Cowboys “reportedly” had interest in Adams, but that’s a nuance not conveyed by the headline or the tweet. Ultimately, the headline and the tweet constitute an expression of interest by the web properties owned and operated by the Cowboys in a player who is under contract with the Jets through 2020, and 2021 if/when the Jets exercise their fifth-year option.

“Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy,” declares the NFL’s Anti-Tampering Policy. In this regard, the policy contains an important caveat: “Articles that appear on the website of a club that identify prospective free agents that the team might be interested in, or that rate prospective free agents, shall not be considered violations of the Anti-Tampering Policy unless they include a direct quote or expression of interest by an employee of the club (other than the author of the article) about a specific player.”

But Adams isn’t a prospective free agent. He won’t be a free agent until 2021 at the earliest or, if the option is exercised, 2022. That exception, which by its terms applies to offseason website articles identifying players that the team may target, has nothing to do with a player who is more than a year — and likely more than two years — from hitting the market.

So what will happen? Undoubtedly, nothing. The NFL has realized that, whether it’s the tampering policy or the injury reporting rules or anything else that teams routinely violate, aggressive enforcement inevitably would result in a stream of acknowledgements that the league is full of cheaters. And that wouldn’t be good for the league, or its oft-cheating teams.

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This is bullsh*t and the Jets should 100% file tampering charges, but Florio’s annual moral panic about tampering will never not be funny.

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16 hours ago, Viermoo said:

Jamal Adams is easily the best player on this team and has been the only guy to bring any sense of energy to the field in years. Those who think he’s not great simply don’t know and have obviously never coached football at any level.

LOL YEA SOME ENERGY.

 

theres a thing called negative energy too

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2 hours ago, TeddEY said:

He's not, and never was a leader.  He's a hype man.

The jets record is 10-29 with his “leadership”

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Jamal better grow up and realize he's good but not proven.  Gregg Williams said it best he has seen better.   That should be Jamal's  focus getting better and learn from Steve Mc what it takes to be a real leader in a club house. 

Joe D did what any GM would do.  So he did and Jamal was not traded so move on Jamal.

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9 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

The jets record is 10-29 with his “leadership”

Every team has leader regardless of the teams record.   

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If the Jets ultimately revisit this trade before the draft, then it wouldn't be wise to file those charges and upset the potential trade partner.

I want Adams here.  I like the guy, and I want him to help us turn the corner.

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6 minutes ago, prime21 said:

Every team has leader regardless of the teams record.   

Doesn't make that player a GOOD leader deserving of a massive 2nd contract.  

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Its amazing Adams can say he is interested in the Cowboys, but the Jets can't listen to offers.  Adams is a douche.  I hope he can stay healthy enough until we trade him and then I hope he becomes real unhealthy.

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9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Doesn't make that player a GOOD leader deserving of a massive 2nd contract.  

I didn't say it did but people keep relating our record to his leadership when in fact it is not the reason our team is been so bad.  Since Jamal has been with the Jets we are 10-29  and that has nothing to do with him being a leader or not .    

Now, with that said, as being one of our leaders, he done screwed up BIG TIME yesterday.  That can impact a locker room.    I for one don't believe that when game day comes, anyone is thinking about any of this crap while on the field but when a team is losing like we do then the locker room can be very distracted.

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19 minutes ago, prime21 said:

I didn't say it did but people keep relating our record to his leadership when in fact it is not the reason our team is been so bad.  Since Jamal has been with the Jets we are 10-29  and that has nothing to do with him being a leader or not .    

So you might say Jamal's contributions to the team are......not impactful?

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4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So you might say Jamal's contributions to the team are......not impactful?

Dallas, along with the Baltimore Ravens, sources said, made a legitimate and strong push to acquire Adams. Both attempts were much more serious than anything on the Bell front. Dallas, sources confirmed, as first reported by NFL Network, offered up a first-round pick along with a Day 3 selection. The Jets, though, wanted a first-round selection and two second rounders. Dallas called the Jets up until the final minutes trying to get something done. Douglas wouldn’t budge.

Why? Because Douglas wasn’t looking to trade Adams. He didn’t want to trade Adams. He needed to be blown away by an offer he couldn’t refuse. To him, that mean a one and two twos. The Cowboys wouldn’t go that high, so Douglas stood strong.

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2 hours ago, Scott Dierking said:

Excerpt from Boomer transcript: 

"The consensus among the NFL people that I spoke to (is) Jamal Adams is a 1% player, meaning that he's in the eyes of many to be considered a Khalil Mack of his position, a DeAndre Hopkins of his position, a top-end Le'Veon Bell at his position -- that type of player. And the Jets would be idiotic to get rid of him unless somebody offered them an idiotic package in return."

I guess the NFL people haven't taken the opinion of some JN posters into consideration when making these statements.

 

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1 minute ago, Green DNA said:

I guess the NFL people haven't taken the opinion of some JN posters into consideration when making these statements.

A stunning development.

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Jamal's comments are the exact opposite of leadership.  There are literally a handful of moments like yesterday that come up during the course of a season where real leadership is required, and instead of stepping up like a leader, Jamal failed with flying colors.  

I can't wait for the inevitable " I spoke to the GM and he clarified what happened and we're good now" comment.  it will be too little, too late.  You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.  

 

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