joewilly12 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, freestater said: Chase Young is going to be a star. We cant afford to go that route though. Macc has dug a hole on o-line that isn't going to be easy to get out of. Andrew Thomas. That's the guu We need a QB fellas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, PS17 said: We are gonna rattle off 2 or 3 useless wins as always. It’s never gonna happen. I would agree with you any ANY other season, but not this one. Why? Because the 2019 NY Jets are not anything CLOSE to an NFL team, with the absolute worst OL I’ve ever seen on any level. I don’t see how they don’t finish 1-15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Honestly I cant really argue with anyone who wants to draft a QB. I think it would be a mistake but there is a real chance we David Carr'ed Sam. The Jets are the only team I can remember in recent history to draft their franchise QB and then completely ignore skill and offensive parts around him as if drafting a QB will solve everything. There comes a point where drafting all your box safeties and run stuffing DT's come back to haunt you and we are at that point. I also think Gase sucks and it just makes evaluating Sam even more difficult. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: IF Sam Darnold continues to falter you have no choice but to draft the best QB in the draft. I have come to the very real possibility that with this non supporting cast, it isn't possible to really evaluate anyone, especially Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Anyone asking for a QB should be shot. In the face. Every pick of the draft should be an offensive lineman. Bingo, without an Oline EVERY QB we draft will be ruined. Even if Darnold is broken he can be a bridge QB while we fix the fundamentals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We need a QB fellas. Thats a fair evaluation behind this great OL. Maybe Bell sux too, since he cant get more than 3 yards a carry right? LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Atlanta Washington Cincinnati ahead of the Jets jets play Washington and Cincinnati this month oh boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said: Thats a fair evaluation behind this great OL. Maybe Bell sux too, since he cant get more than 3 yards a carry right? LMAO OL throwing the INT's and calling for the ball on the snap and not being ready for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Yountrade it. But you take a qb in the 3rd or 4th round. If darney sucks again next year, you will end up w a high pick again and trevor lawrence is on the table. ..and you bring in a veteran capable of starting like a Bridgewater (lol)..to give some competition. There has to be be accountability on everyone. I think Gase is a truly decrepit offensive mind, but Sam can't escape the consequences of regressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: OL throwing the INT's and calling for the ball on the snap and not being ready for it OL causing everyone to press and getting beat up tends to lead to mental mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, SpartanJet said: OL causing everyone to press and getting beat up tends to lead to mental mistakes. OL making him see ghosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: IF Sam Darnold continues to falter you have no choice but to draft the best QB in the draft. With this coach and this OL? Seriously you're kidding? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 It;s a good thing some of these backseat GM's here are not with the Jets - I'd be switching to Miami to root for.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Bomberjet said: With this coach and this OL? Seriously your kidding? They aren't throwing the INT's and forcing them instead of taking the sack or throwing the ball out of bounds. Sam Darnold has regressed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: OL throwing the INT's and calling for the ball on the snap and not being ready for it No, but they are responsible for getting him shell shocked. Wake up man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, freestater said: We're going to end up with it. We are the worst team in the league. It's going to be interesting...do we draft a QB? Trade for a ransom? Are there any "cant miss" DTs? QB or D line. We need an interior defensive lineman where 'the stats don't show everything but he is trying really hard even if he doesn't get tackles or sacks'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Ken Shroy said: No, but they are responsible for getting him shell shocked. Wake up man. He's been bad this season he hasn't progressed one bit. Watch the games hopefully he snaps out of this funk he's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonaldJet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 You put that thing out there and sell to the highest bidder. Darnold hasn’t been good, but this isn’t his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bomberjet Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: They aren't throwing the INT's and forcing them instead of taking the sack or throwing the ball out of bounds. Sam Darnold has regressed . You can look at it with that logic with black colored glasses - there's no 2 ways to Sunday about the fact that he's regressed because of OL and Gsse - So you logic is that all is fine with this team and it;s all on Sam? Can't have it both ways - everyone , including the experts say that Sam can't be judged 'til he's got a good supporting cast. You're putting the cart before the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: Chase Young is the best player in the draft. He is exact what the Jets have needed on defense for like 2 decades. I don't know if they'd be able to take him though if they got the pick. Unless they can stockpile a few more picks this off-season, they'd probably have to trade back a few slots and try addressing as many needs as possible. They can take him when they trade Adams before FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, freestater said: We're going to end up with it. We are the worst team in the league. It's going to be interesting...do we draft a QB? Trade for a ransom? Are there any "cant miss" DTs? The Redskins will not win another game. We could beat the Dolphins next go round. We will pick 3-5 when all is said and done. Same as always. Lets just hope we're don picking D-Linemen in those spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, PepPep said: The Jets will not end up with the #1 overall pick, and they certainly will not be drafting a QB when they have Sam Darnold. Their schedule is just too weak compared to other winless or 1 win teams and I think its obvious to everyone with two eyes that the offensive line is the issue, not Darnold. If they do end up with a top 5 pick, they are going with Chase Young or Andrew Thomas. If both are gone, they are trading down. If a trade down does not happen, I think they take BPA as long as it fills a need- WR, OT, Edge, CB. I agree with this. Sam isn't the issue at all. He needs to clean up a few things yes but give the kid a competent offensive line and offensive line coach and he'll be able to showcase his talent. The Jets are going to be drafting in the Top 5. More likely than not it'll go QB (Tua), QB (Furrow), Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, then the Jets will probably pick 5th with their luck and have a decision to make. For me they would have to take the 2nd best LT in the draft. Most likely Tristan Wirfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, PS17 said: We are gonna rattle off 2 or 3 useless wins as always. It’s never gonna happen. You can't be serious. The Jets are incapable of winning right now, even if the other team is trying to tank we will still lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said: I have come to the very real possibility that with this non supporting cast, it isn't possible to really evaluate anyone, especially Sam. The critics shouldn’t just start and end with Darnold, also claim that Lev Bell “sucks” too (guy hasn’t had a SINGLE clean hole to run through the entire season, 95% of whatever yards he has gained are After contact..yes, that is not a misprint). Seriously, if the Jet OL had any honor they would have committed Hari-Kari long ago...starting with Winters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alka said: You can't be serious. The Jets are incapable of winning right now, even if the other team is trying to tank we will still lose. The Locker Room has already been lost, this is no longer a “team”...therefore there will be NO more wins this season....1-15...Sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Herbert, Burrow, and Tua seem to be the top 3 QB's right? The Pac 12 scares me, but Herbert looks to be a big tough kid who understood he needed an extra year in school. Plus arm, stands in the pocket, can take a hit. If the Jets are picking top 5 (likely) one of those guys should at least be there. You have to draft a quarterback. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Herbert, Burrow, and Tua seem to be the top 3 QB's right? The Pac 12 scares me, but Herbert looks to be a big tough kid who understood he needed an extra year in school. Plus arm, stands in the pocket, can take a hit. If the Jets are picking top 5 (likely) one of those guys should at least be there. You have to draft a quarterback. Yeah sure and let him play behind another crappy OL. LMAO Then all of you same clowns will be telling us how bad THAT QB is. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 draft a QB until you have a QB...go for Tua. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsLife Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I don't want to draft a QB. I think Darnold's combination of his talent and intangibles = a future elite QB. He's been stuck with very substandard supporting casts last season and this year, and even worse offensive coordinators. I think his poor play is 90% a function of that vs. his capability level. Trade down and re-build the offensive line to start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, JetsLife said: I don't want to draft a QB. I think Darnold's combination of his talent and intangibles = a future elite QB. He's been stuck with very substandard supporting casts last season and this year, and even worse offensive coordinators. I think his poor play is 90% a function of that vs. his capability level. Trade down and re-build the offensive line to start. This is the approach I would prefer. We already have enough capital tied up in the position. To draft another QB, and not give him some real protection, seems redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, PS17 said: We are gonna rattle off 2 or 3 useless wins as always. It’s never gonna happen. Most years that'd be true, but this Jets team is historically bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, southtown24th said: draft a QB until you have a QB...go for Tua. Joe Douglas needs to be like Steve Keim and hit RESET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 You either trade back and get a ton of draft capital or just take a player like Chase Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: You either trade back and get a ton of draft capital or just take a player like Chase Young. So another DL - lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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