Spoot-Face Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Lol That's probably the right answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: Yes. That's what real fans do. They don't stomp out of the stadium when the TV cameras are pointing (Fireman Ed), they don't quit when asked to pay fair market value for their seats (you), and they don't fly planes attacking their new head coach (hashtag dirtbags). SAR I Great congrats nice enjoy, I was just checking to see if you decided to sell the remainder of the games. I know sometimes you do decide to sell tickets when unforeseen circumstances hinder you from attending. If my health situation allows it not sure yet the long walking and long standing situations aren't good for me right now I hope to finally meet you at a game if not this season maybe next. joewilly12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: That's why Joe Douglas is here. They make it work in Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. They have older QB's on fat deals and put a competitive product on the field. One or two of those teams is going to the Super Bowl this year. SAR I Yes you need talented execs to make things work in such a situation. So far I haven't seen ANYTHING from Adam Gase that tells me he's part of the solution. And it's not like this is his first job so he doesn't get the "he's a rookie coach and will improve" benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: That's probably the right answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Yes you need talented execs to make things work in such a situation. So far I haven't seen ANYTHING from Adam Gase that tells me he's part of the solution. And it's not like this is his first job so he doesn't get the "he's a rookie coach and will improve" benefit of the doubt. He was 23-25 in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Lol There are many possible reasons he would answer this way that have nothing to do with the Jets being a bad organization (or the Johnson's being terrible owners). I'm not defending the Johnson family, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: We're not good enough to even belong on the same field as the Dolphins? Haven't you seen Ryan Fitzpatrick enough to know that when he is on point he can beat any team in the NFL? 24-36 3 TD's 0 INT's. If Josh Rosen starts that game, we win easy even with our horrible injuries. If you really want to use the Dolphins game as a benchmark, the plane should have asked for Gregg Williams' firing, bub. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, SAR I said: Haven't you seen Ryan Fitzpatrick enough to know that when he is on point he can beat any team in the NFL? 24-36 3 TD's 0 INT's. If Josh Rosen starts that game, we win easy even with our horrible injuries. If you really use the Dolphins game as a benchmark, the plane should have asked for Gregg Williams' firing, bub. SAR I Oh right. Fitz is so wonderful that the Jets don't have enough talent to even be on the same field as the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: None of them had a franchise QB, except Gase who supposedly does. 8 games. 5 against NFL playoff teams. 4 without QB1. 4 with no OL, no WR's. 8 with an under-performing D that no one even talks about. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: Haven't you seen Ryan Fitzpatrick enough to know that when he is on point he can beat any team in the NFL? 24-36 3 TD's 0 INT's. If Josh Rosen starts that game, we win easy even with our horrible injuries. If you really want to use the Dolphins game as a benchmark, the plane should have asked for Gregg Williams' firing, bub. SAR I SAR I The fact that we lost to the winless Dolphins with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB is pretty pathetic. joewilly12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, SAR I said: Remember when we were getting hints that Herndon, Mosley, and Beachum were coming back? Didn't happen. Cowboys Patriots at Jacksonville at Miami Before the season started, you had us going 1-3 during that stretch. Well, we did. Completely injured. Beating the Cowboys instead of the Dolphins? I'll take it. It means a lot more. SAR I And the Dolphins traded Laremy Tunsil, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and Kenny Stills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: 8 games. 5 against NFL playoff teams. 4 without QB1. 4 with no OL, no WR's. 8 with an under-performing D that no one even talks about. SAR I The Steelers have played almost the entire season without Ben and they no longer have Brown/Bell yet they're 4-4. Oh, and they played several games without their QB2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, SAR I said: .....they don't quit when asked to pay fair market value for their seats (you)..... Right, they just sell them to opposing Fans. Like you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: His foot work is exceptionally bad and his mechanics are worse his decision making is far worse than it's ever been. Thats called regressing. joewilly12 Go on an African Safari. Crouch behind a camouflaged barrier wearing camouflaged clothing. When the lion shows up, take off your camouflaged clothing, pull down the camouflaged barrier, hold up your rifle, tell me about your footwork "regressing". SAR I 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I never thought I would say this but my wife is hounding me to go shopping (CostCo) and at this current time thats a way better choice than remaining in this conversation where people just don't get it. The NY Jets are a bad football team and a bad organization all the excuses in the world do not make up for it. Hoping and praying like I have been for 50 years that things change for the better for all of us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 SAR - even though I disagree with you a lot of the time, I actually think you're a good fan because I know you're passionate about the team. However, I also think Joe Benigno is a good fan for the exact same reason. And I think the same is true for many other Jet fans that you criticize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, SAR I said: The same 18,000 season ticket holders who write checks to the Jets every year who understand fully that NFL fandom means you suck for 10 years to have a shot at a Super Bowl for 3 years. And say thank you. After all, we're the ones who put tickets up on Stubhub for a-la-carte fans to buy at a discount. SAR I I havent been to a game in yrs. Thanks though. Spending hundreds of dollars to see dog sh*t. Im good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: Go on an African Safari. Crouch behind a camouflaged barrier wearing camouflaged clothing. When the lion shows up, take off your camouflaged clothing, pull down the camouflaged barrier, hold up your rifle, tell me about your footwork "regressing". SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Willie Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, SAR I said: One of the biggest benefits of being a 20 year season ticket holder is that when the Jets finally do turn it around it feels so much better for us than it does for the guy in his basement watching the games on a 15 year old plasma TV. SAR I Dream on, if you think they'll ever turn it around with Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, SAR I said: Remember when we were getting hints that Herndon, Mosley, and Beachum were coming back? Didn't happen. Cowboys Patriots at Jacksonville at Miami Before the season started, you had us going 1-3 during that stretch. Well, we did. Completely injured. Beating the Cowboys instead of the Dolphins? I'll take it. It means a lot more. SAR I According to you, Gase wasn't responsible for our 1 win though On 11/6/2019 at 12:07 PM, TuscanyTile2 said: Was Gase responsible for our 1 win? On 11/6/2019 at 12:09 PM, SAR I said: No. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The point is that there was no human alive who was going to walk in the door back in January who was going to fix this team by now. The damage had already been done and anyone who looked at this team objectively knew it was going to be a multiple-year project to get it straightened out. Adam Gase may well suck at his job, but holding him up as THE reason the Jets are where they are today is absurd, and you’d have to imagine that other prospective coaches around the league know it and will look to avoid a similar fate. Honest question: you’re a 45 year old guy who has worked his entire adult life to get a crack at a head coaching job, and the following jobs open up next year: the Jets, Giants, Cowboys, Jaguars, Falcons, Redskins, and Browns. Which one of those are you taking? And which one of those would you avoid like it’s laden with plague rats? Bill Belcihick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Bill Belcihick? It’d take Belichick three years and 50 new players to fix this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: It’d take Belichick three years and 50 new players to fix this team. With him, we'd probably be 4-4 right now and in the playoff hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 My gawd David Duke and Tom are just ruining every thread with the same ridiculous garbage over and over again. Making this place miserable to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: With him, we'd probably be 4-4 right now and in the playoff hunt. It’s nice to dream, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, JiF said: My gawd David Duke and Tom are just ruining every thread with the same ridiculous garbage over and over again. Making this place miserable to read. The alternative is a bunch of posts blaming Gase for everything and how tacos are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: It’s nice to dream, I guess You said Parcells won with Kotite's team by doing Parcells things. Belichick is a better coach than Parcells is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: The alternative is a bunch of posts blaming Gase for everything and how tacos are bad. It was burritos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 For what it’s worth, I will never donate one cent to anything like this. Thanks for listening. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, GREENBEAN said: For what it’s worth, I will never donate one cent to anything like this. Thanks for listening. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app So how much did you donate then? $100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: You said Parcells won with Kotite's team by doing Parcells things. Belichick is a better coach than Parcells is. I disagree that Belichick is better than Parcells. Parcells built the Pats up, took them to the Super Bowl, quit, and Belichick took the Pats job three years later after Pete Carroll got fired. Prior to that, Belichick was a washout in Cleveland whom Parcells saved from the unemployment line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I disagree that Belichick is better than Parcells. Parcells built the Pats up, took them to the Super Bowl, quit, and Belichick took the Pats job three years later after Pete Carroll got fired. Prior to that, Belichick was a washout in Cleveland whom Parcells saved from the unemployment line. Parcells is an all-time great but Belichick is ridiculous. Parcells' best achievements (2 SB wins) were with Belichick as his DC. And Belichick has gone to 9 SBs (winning 6) post-Parcells. Honestly if fans were going to fly a plane with a banner, it should've read "sell the team, Johnson family" for letting Belichick slip through our fingers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Parcells is an all-time great but Belichick is ridiculous. Parcells' best achievements (2 SB wins) were with Belichick as his DC. And Belichick has gone to 9 SBs (winning 6) post-Parcells. Honestly if fans were going to fly a plane with a banner, it should've read "sell the team, Johnson family" for letting Belichick slip through our fingers. I’d like to see Belichick go somewhere else and build that team from scratch before I’m giving him that title. He landed in an ideal situation, Mo Lewis handed him Tom Brady, and a cowardly commissioner allowed him to defraud the league for the past 20 years. Let’s see him take over the Bengals and let’s see how great he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d like to see Belichick go somewhere else and build that team from scratch before I’m giving him that title. He landed in an ideal situation, Mo Lewis handed him Tom Brady, and a cowardly commissioner allowed him to defraud the league for the past 20 years. Let’s see him take over the Bengals and let’s see how great he is. As much pain as he's caused every Jet fan, he's still an amazing HC. Despite the cheating, I still think he's the GOAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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