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Mac was terrible therefor Gase is good or acceptable, wut?

Mac was terrible, Gase has shown he is terrible. 

Remove all the things out of Gases control and he is still terrible at the things he does control.

If this guy had a stellar resume of success you might think we need to be patient.  His resume sucks.  He is not magically getting any better.

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17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Who was your preferred hire and what would his record be today?

Rhule because he is a head coach and a team builder not a coordinator that just wants power and more cash.

His record?  I don;t care about the record this year as much as how the team looks and the direction it is taking.

If the Jets were 1-7 and Darnold looked improved and the offense was not dead last in almost all categories and the team was making it hard for other teams to win then the beefing would be much less.

The team has little talent in the positions that matter and it will take years to fix this, that does not mean you nod your head and give the coach a free pass.

Win or look good losing.

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33 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Like, why aren’t fans having these seizures about Gregg Williams and his putrid defense? 

Jets defense, 17th in yards given up/game, 22nd in points given up per game.

Jets offense,  32nd in yards per game, 32nd in points,

Lets keep trying.

Mac was terrible thus gase is good

G Williams is mediocre thus gase is good.

Maybe the owner?

CJ and woody are terrible therefor gase is A okay.

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5 minutes ago, CTM said:

The investment in defense has been much larger. The same people vilifying Gase think JA is an all pro at a premium position

No argument, the defense has been favoured for years, does not make adam gase good, or even acceptable.

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3 hours ago, CTM said:

3 things can be true at once

1) the roster sucks

2) gase is doing a bad job

3) the fans are hysterical over gase

For #3.  People are as mad at the owner as the coach.

Also after the hilariously awful todd bowles years and the awful last 3 years of rex this team has had horrible head coaching for almost a decade.  People have totally run out of patience with lousy coaches and there is nothing wrong with that.

Also, people have very low confidence that a correction of this error will be made any time soon.  So after another year to two years after this one of lousy coaching we are back at square one.

People are fed up and have every right to be fed up .  The NY jets spent all of their trust and good will long ago.  Now it is up to them to prove to us that they know what they are doing.

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11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If you guys think the Jets had a big edge in talent for that game, why aren’t you directing more of your anger at Gregg Williams, who let Ryan Fitzpatrick light up that very talented Jets defense? 

Dude, is the Gase Hill really the hill you want to die on?

We are last in the league in all major offensive categories, that is Gases' baby.

We have a great back in Leveon Bell, Anderson and crowder though not world beaters can function.

Darnold looked like one of the better young QBs the last half of last year and now he looks awful.

Everything on offense has gone backwards three steps.  It is simply indefensible.  Other teams have had oline issues other teams have gone to their 2nd or 3rd string QBs.  Smart coaching and play calling and game planning can at least make you look functional.

The Jets offense is the worst it has looked in 15 years.  And Gase is up against offensive juggernauts like Shotty, Bates, morton, gailey.

 

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39 minutes ago, Cyberjet said:

Unlikely but point being they would have a losing record. And that’s comparing him to an experienced top flight coach. 2 games into his 2nd season in NE they were calling for BBs head. Great DC horrible head coach. Marvin Jones and Tom Brady changed it all and they had a good OL.

The record is not really the point.  No one expects Gase to be a miracle worker with bad talent.  It is how the team looks with  the things he can control.

The team looks bad, the use of talent looks bad, the offense is epically bad. 

There is not one thing I have seen from this coach to suggest he is good in any facet of being a head coach let alone an offensive guy,

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22 minutes ago, Cyberjet said:

If next year the Jets look like they are  clueless then you fire his ass

Huh why?  The jets still will have bad talent next year.

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16 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Bell: Dumped by previous team

Montgomery: Dumped by two previous teams

Crowder: Redskins, flush with cap space, let him walk.

Alex Lewis: Dumped by previous team

Chuma Edoga: lolololol ol 

Oh man how did you become pac/jetnut/nyjuc like over gase?

Bell and crowder and quality  players.  the others are jags.

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Just now, T0mShane said:

Rex goes 4-12 and the fans buy a billboard to get his GM fired after two years.

Adam Gase inherits a roster from a GM whose *five* drafts make John Idzik’s drafts look like Jimmy Johnson’s drafts and, uh, they want a billboard to get Adam Gase fired.

 

the difference? You personally liked Rex and you don’t like Gase. You’re all a bunch of emo poofs with daddy issues. 

Rex stunk, Gase stinks, bowles stinks.

The jets look worse than any other team for the last 15 years and they have had some bad teams.  The offense looks embarrassing bad.  This guy is an offensive coach.

Todd Bowles should have been retained, he had even worse talent then gase has.  lol

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2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think you give him a second year because you don’t fire coaches after one year because that’s how you lose the ability to hire good coaches in the future. 

He is destroying a potential franchise Qb right before our eyes.  If it is a mistake you correct it now.  There will always be good candidates, you just have to pick the right one.

We gave Rex and Bowles what, 4-5 years a piece?  Didn't help us this time around.

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1 minute ago, SAR I said:

The guy is under attack from Twitter trolls, Daily News trolls, SNY trolls, WFAN trolls, and ESPN trolls.  What do you expect his public demeanor to be like? 

What you don't know is what he's like in the locker room.  All evidence points to a good coach who is holding his team together during a stretch of unprecedented injury.  We're Jets fans.  We've seen locker rooms in decay.  This isn't one. 

Le'Veon Bell forced his way out of Pittsburgh a year ago, acted like a child, Tomlin couldn't control him.  Bell is nothing but cooperative and helpful now.  That's Gase.  Good job of coaching a tough player.  CJ Mosley certainly can't be happy.  Same thing.  Good job by Gase.  Osemele making waves, gone.  Good job by Gase.

SAR I

The bolded statement has to be one of the most inaccurate statements ever posted on these forums.  And there have been a lot of doozies.

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Adam Gase is a good coach and nothing to do with this team is his fault and he has proven he can get the most out of his team.

 

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Tomlin is vastly overrated.  I would want no part of him.  And thankfully i think he would want no part of us.

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Insanity defense. The insanity defense, also known as the mental disorder defense, is an affirmative defense by excuse in a criminal case, arguing that the defendant is not responsible for his or her actions due to an episodic or persistent psychiatric disease at the time of the criminal act.

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9 hours ago, SR24 said:

Jets rank 32nd in pass protection, 30th in run defense and are a league worst in averaging 1.7 yards before contact. What coach is winning with this roster? Mike Maccagnan needs to be institutionalized for the product on the field this year. But yeah ******* Gase

You forgot dead last in all main offensive categories, essentially more talent (Bell, Crowder) than guys like Bates, Morton and Gailey had.

The gaseologists keep coming back to a win loss record.   The record is awful but it is not about being 1-7 it is about looking like total shi* on the offensive side of the ball.  Our franchise Qb looking worse and worse.

Not to mention every team and their dog have had injuries and Qb injuries and seem to at minimum function and in many case still do well.

Gase has not done one thing that looks impressive so far this season  from game one on and he had a crap resume before getting the job.

Win or look good losing.

Gase is an awful coach and the jets should correct the mistake asap.

(However the Gase lovers fear not, much like utter fails like McCagnan and Bowles he will be given 3-4 years.)

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5 hours ago, SR24 said:

The team didn’t hire the coach you wanted so instead of just dealing with it you’re pouting and crying about the HC. Matt Rhule, McCarthy, Monken, Harbaugh are all 1-7 with this team. 32nd in pass protection 30th in run blocking and last in the league at 1.7yards before contact. Maybe Maccarthy could help, put him at Center.  

If the offensive line is terrible then part of that is on the head coach.  Call some damn plays that don;t let your Qb get ass smacked, go two TEs, Roll out. throw to the backs, do twin back sets, Fsakes, Gase has done none of that.

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6 minutes ago, greenwave81 said:

Please...Idzik was GM for ONE YEAR before Bowles/Macc came in, and he had one disastrous draft.  

Douglas/Gase are operating here after FIVE Mike MacCagnan disastrous drafts.

Kinda not the same.

It is for bowles, the roster is better this year, the performance is worse.  If gase gets a free pass this year then why was bowles fired?

Bates looks like Bill Walsh compared to the offensive gase is trotting out there.

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