THE BARON Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I gather that most everyone has had their fill of Jets taking D-Line first overall. There is a good chance that Chase Young will be available for the Jets in 2020. If so, would that not be a good pick *IF* Darnold shows progress the rest of this season ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 29m29 minutes ago More Ohio State DE Chase Young Sidelined Amid Investigation For Rules Violation http://bit.ly/2qxlR8Y 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 suspended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 edge rusher is a different story 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Supposedly a possible rules infraction from 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: 29m29 minutes ago More Ohio State DE Chase Young Sidelined Amid Investigation For Rules Violation http://bit.ly/2qxlR8Y Perfect. Trade back and still take him while accumulating multiple top 100(round 2-3) picks and draft offense. Bam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, THE BARON said: I gather that most everyone has had their fill of Jets taking D-Line first overall. There is a good chance that Chase Young will be available for the Jets in 2020. If so, would that not be a good pick *IF* Darnold shows progress the rest of this season ??? The only defensive position to draft that high, in my opinion, is some one who can become a double digit sack guy. By all accounts, Chase Young is one of those guys. I have not watched him much, but top of the 1st round, you draft, QB, Guy who Hits QB, Guy who protects QB, Guy who catches passes from QB. 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Yes it's a good pick even if Sam Darnold was a double amputee with a 291 credit score. Chase Young is a freak, fills a decade+ long need and rivals Myles Garret as the best edge rusher to come out in the last like 10 drafts. We'd have 2 young controllable pieces as arguably the 2 most important positions (Edge,QB) Chase Young is a no brainer if he's available when we pick. I'd try to aquire another 1st (trading Adams) and then would go C,OT in with the extra 1st and 2nd. If Young is there he's got to be the pick 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: edge rusher is a different story agree. if this guy is the second coming of lawrence taylor you pick him. then go heavy on the beef in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 So if this guy is a breaker of rules, he would be perfect for New England. Therefore the Jets need a tackle to keep him off Darnold for the next decade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young. Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me. 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, Maxman said: This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young. Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me. Yes. Adding Chase Young and then add a guy like Tyler Biadasz out of Wisconsin would net the drafts best Edge rusher and C in the 1st round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Who is giving up a first rounder for Jamal Adams and it seems like JD wants more or he would have been traded before the trade deadline 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Who is giving up a first rounder for Jamal Adams and it seems like JD wants more or he would have been traded before the trade deadline 2019. Right but Douglas not pulling the trigger on the trade also happened before Jamal started his meltdowns. We had 3 teams going for him with Joe D asking an astronomical price for him, once the offseason hits we'll get a 1. Might just be a 1 but with how deep this draft is for OL+WR we gotta move him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, SR24 said: Right but Douglas not pulling the trigger on the trade also happened before Jamal started his meltdowns. We had 3 teams going for him with Joe D asking an astronomical price for him, once the offseason hits we'll get a 1. Might just be a 1 but with how deep this draft is for OL+WR we gotta move him. Disagree you weaken the D by subtracting its best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Maxman said: This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young. Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me. It definitely does - I think an all-pro on his rookie contract is worth more than 1 first round pick though. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Who is giving up a first rounder for Jamal Adams and it seems like JD wants more or he would have been traded before the trade deadline 2019. The Cowboys wrote an article about Jamal Adams and put it on their site, remember? That first rounder will belong to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, Maxman said: The Cowboys wrote an article about Jamal Adams and put it on their site, remember? That first rounder will belong to the Jets. JD didn't pull the trigger the first rounder was on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Disagree you weaken the D by subtracting its best player. I'd like to think Chase Young would take over that role for Adams but he's yet to play an NFL snap so I can't say it would happen for sure but IMO it's the best of both worlds. I guess If I had to choose between Adams or a 1st round C I'd go with the C but to each is own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Maxman said: The Cowboys wrote an article about Jamal Adams and put it on their site, remember? That first rounder will belong to the Jets. Are you suggesting we'd get a first for tampering? Or just that the Cowboys are going to do whatever to trade for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, SR24 said: I'd like to think Chase Young would take over that role for Adams but he's yet to play an NFL snap so I can't say it would happen for sure but IMO it's the best of both worlds. I guess If I had to choose between Adams or a 1st round C I'd go with the C but to each is own Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Are you suggesting we'd get a first for tampering? Or just that the Cowboys are going to do whatever to trade for him? I meant the Cowboys want him and they will still trade their first for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. I like Jamal a lot. If they can build up the team and keep him that is great. They need help though at different positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, Maxman said: I like Jamal a lot. If they can build up the team and keep him that is great. They need help though at different positions. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. Definitely get where you're coming from, a team with no real good players shouldn't try to trade the only one they've got. However though I factor in his contract situation and how much he's going to want. Idk if the roster with as many holes as we have will be in a position where paying a safety that much money is a good idea. This offseason gonna set the table for Jamal's future here 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SR24 said: Definitely get where you're coming from, a team with no real good players shouldn't try to trade the only one they've got. However though I factor in his contract situation and how much he's going to want. Idk if the roster with as many holes as we have will be in a position where paying a safety that much money is a good idea. This offseason gonna set the table for Jamal's future here 100% Well we agree to disagree JD thought nothing of throwing $8-$9 million at a washed up retired Center who has done nothing for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maxman said: I meant the Cowboys want him and they will still trade their first for him. Agreed. I think they'll offer more after the season - assuming he stays healthy and doesn't regress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Maxman said: This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young. Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me. Not sure if trading Adams is the answer to getting Chase Young *and* an offensive tackle. With QB, LT and CB, you can have what looks like a "can't miss" prospect, but they turn out to be duds. It happens regularly. Guys drafted to be LT wind up moving to RT or inside. Also consider CB's Milliner and Kyle Wilson. Since no one gets rid of a proven franchise, QB, you usually have no choice but to take your chances with your first pick in round one to get one of your own. Different story with LT and CB. Proven ones cost a lot of money and people will unload the expense in FA For CB and LT, I think that is the way go if one is available in FA. You can build the interior of your o-line in the later rounds if your scouting is good. Perhaps before the draft, the Jets can buy some good, proven talent for the o-line, keep Adams and draft Chase Young ??? If no high value LT in FA, yeah, I guess you can think about trading players for draft picks and hope it works out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The question to ask is not if Darnold shows progress do we draft Chase Young over a QB, the question to ask is if Chase Young and the best LT prospect is also there....who do we draft. We are not, and should not, take a QB....we are gonna sink or swim with Darnold over the next 3 years and hope what we are seeing now is a result of sh*tty coaching and the horrible personnel around him. As to EDGE v. LT.....I can't answer that question because I don't really know if Andrew Thomas is a 10 year pro-bowl level talent at left tackle. If he is and if Chase Young is also a 10 year pro-bowl level talent at EDGE...than that's a much more interesting debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Well we agree to disagree JD thought noting of throwing $8-$9 million at a washed up retired Center who has done nothing for this team. That was more a desperation move than anything which I can understand. Getting back on Adams here though we could probably match his production for much cheaper go look at Karl Joseph from the Raiders their stats are similar but the pay is gonna be way way off. Joseph is also a free agent this year. Would be an adequate replacement for Adams if he does end up getting moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, SR24 said: That was more a desperation move than anything which I can understand. Getting back on Adams here though we could probably match his production for much cheaper go look at Karl Joseph from the Raiders their stats are similar but the pay is gonna be way way off. Joseph is also a free agent this year. Would be an adequate replacement for Adams if he does end up getting moved. Adams better than Joseph in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Maxman said: This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young. Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me. Trading a safety for a first round talented offensive lineman would go a long way in exorcising the ghost from one Sam Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Adams better than Joseph in my opinion. I like the flavor orange better than tangerine. Providing I can tell them a part when I eats them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Adams better than Joseph in my opinion. Definitely is. I just think adding Joseph,moving Adams to add a 1st round OL and drafting Chase Young would go a long way in improving the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The Browns picked Garrett because they did not have a QB yet. If they had a QB, I would have thought they would pick players to support the QB. They have signed WRs, but now their OL is weak, and Mayfield is suffering. The Jets have Darnold and next year is his year 3, so building OL and WR to support him is priority 1. If the Jets can find a way to add 3+ who are better than what we have, and still draft Chase Young, I am all for it. That is where trading Jamal Adams comes in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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