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Just now, Maxman said:

This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young.

Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. 

That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me.

Yes.  Adding Chase Young and then add a guy like Tyler Biadasz out of Wisconsin would net the drafts best Edge rusher and C in the 1st round.  

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

Who is giving up a first rounder for Jamal Adams and it seems like JD wants more or he would have been traded before the trade deadline 2019. 

Right but Douglas not pulling the trigger on the trade also happened before Jamal started his meltdowns. We had 3 teams going for him with Joe D asking an astronomical price for him, once the offseason hits we'll get a 1. Might just be a 1 but with how deep this draft is for OL+WR we gotta move him. 

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2 minutes ago, SR24 said:

Right but Douglas not pulling the trigger on the trade also happened before Jamal started his meltdowns. We had 3 teams going for him with Joe D asking an astronomical price for him, once the offseason hits we'll get a 1. Might just be a 1 but with how deep this draft is for OL+WR we gotta move him. 

Disagree you weaken the D by subtracting its best player. 

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13 minutes ago, Maxman said:

This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young.

Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. 

That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me.

It definitely does - I think an all-pro on his rookie contract is worth more than 1 first round pick though. Just my opinion.

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7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Who is giving up a first rounder for Jamal Adams and it seems like JD wants more or he would have been traded before the trade deadline 2019. 

The Cowboys wrote an article about Jamal Adams and put it on their site, remember? That first rounder will belong to the Jets.

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1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Disagree you weaken the D by subtracting its best player. 

I'd like to think Chase Young would take over that role for Adams but he's yet to play an NFL snap so I can't say it would happen for sure but IMO it's the best of both worlds. I guess If I had to choose between Adams or a 1st round C I'd go with the C but to each is own

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2 minutes ago, SR24 said:

I'd like to think Chase Young would take over that role for Adams but he's yet to play an NFL snap so I can't say it would happen for sure but IMO it's the best of both worlds. I guess If I had to choose between Adams or a 1st round C I'd go with the C but to each is own

Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. 

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2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Are you suggesting we'd get a first for tampering? Or just that the Cowboys are going to do whatever to trade for him?

I meant the Cowboys want him and they will still trade their first for him.

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1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. 

I like Jamal a lot. If they can build up the team and keep him that is great. They need help though at different positions.

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4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Im against addition by subtraction at this point. We have been burned so many times by draft picks. We finally get a decent player who shows up every game and everyone hates him and wants to trade him. 

Definitely get where you're coming from, a team with no real good players shouldn't try to trade the only one they've got. However though I factor in his contract situation and how much he's going to want. Idk if the roster with as many holes as we have will be in a position where paying a safety that much money is a good idea. This offseason gonna set the table for Jamal's future here 100% 

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1 minute ago, SR24 said:

Definitely get where you're coming from, a team with no real good players shouldn't try to trade the only one they've got. However though I factor in his contract situation and how much he's going to want. Idk if the roster with as many holes as we have will be in a position where paying a safety that much money is a good idea. This offseason gonna set the table for Jamal's future here 100% 

Well we agree to disagree JD thought nothing of throwing $8-$9 million at a washed up retired Center who has done nothing for this team. 

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12 minutes ago, Maxman said:

This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young.

Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. 

That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me.

Not sure if trading Adams is the answer to getting Chase Young *and* an offensive tackle.  With QB, LT and CB, you can have what looks like a "can't miss" prospect, but they turn out to be duds.  It happens regularly.   Guys drafted to be LT wind up moving to RT or inside.   Also  consider CB's Milliner and Kyle Wilson.  Since no one gets rid of a proven franchise, QB, you usually have no choice but to take your chances with your first pick in round one to get one of your own.  Different story with LT and CB.  Proven ones cost a lot of money and people will unload the expense in FA For CB and LT, I think that is the way go if one is available in FA.  You can build the interior of your o-line in the later rounds if your scouting is good.  Perhaps before the draft, the Jets can buy some good, proven talent for the o-line, keep Adams and draft Chase Young ???  If no high value LT in FA, yeah, I guess you can think about trading players for draft picks and hope it works out...

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The question to ask is not if Darnold shows progress do we draft Chase Young over a QB, the question to ask is if Chase Young and the best LT prospect is also there....who do we draft.  We are not, and should not, take a QB....we are gonna sink or swim with Darnold over the next 3 years and hope what we are seeing now is a result of sh*tty coaching and the horrible personnel around him.

As to EDGE v. LT.....I can't answer that question because I don't really know if Andrew Thomas is a 10 year pro-bowl level talent at left tackle. 

If he is and if Chase Young is also a 10 year pro-bowl level talent at EDGE...than that's a much more interesting debate.

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

Well we agree to disagree JD thought noting of throwing $8-$9 million at a washed up retired Center who has done nothing for this team. 

That was more a desperation move than anything which I can understand. Getting back on Adams here though we could probably match his production for much cheaper go look at Karl Joseph from the Raiders their stats are similar but the pay is gonna be way way off. Joseph is also a free agent this year. Would be an adequate replacement for Adams if he does end up getting moved. 

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3 minutes ago, SR24 said:

That was more a desperation move than anything which I can understand. Getting back on Adams here though we could probably match his production for much cheaper go look at Karl Joseph from the Raiders their stats are similar but the pay is gonna be way way off. Joseph is also a free agent this year. Would be an adequate replacement for Adams if he does end up getting moved. 

Adams better than Joseph in my opinion. 

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32 minutes ago, Maxman said:

This was mentioned in another thread but factor in trading Jamal Adams when you think of Chase Young.

Jamal for a first rounder means the Jets could have Chase Young and a new starting 1st round talent Olineman. 

That sounds better than Jamal and Chase to me.

Trading a safety for a first round talented offensive lineman would go a long way in exorcising the ghost from one Sam Darnold. 

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The Browns picked Garrett because they did not have a QB yet.   If they had a QB, I would have thought they would pick players to support the QB.  They have signed WRs, but now their OL is weak, and Mayfield is suffering.

The Jets have Darnold and next year is his year 3, so building OL and WR to support him is priority 1.

If the Jets can find a way to add 3+ who are better than what we have, and still draft Chase Young, I am all for it.  That is where trading Jamal Adams comes in. 

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