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The challenge plays were timeouts.  I had  no issue with them. 

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They are really bringing Herndon along slowly. He is a good blocker as well as receiver, surprised not to see him blocking and only making one catch (I think on two targets, not counting the one Lewis blew on holding call).

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12 hours ago, KRL said:

- Finally, an awful look on the sideline when the Jets challenged two plays
late in the game.  Why is Dowell Loggains throwing the flag and talking to 
the refs???  Adam Gase needs to be doing that, he can't look subservient to
an assistant coach

I was curious about the challenges and also the lack of a challenge on a play early on the game. It was like a false start that got called on our def. I feel like Gase is just not a good coach so he didn't challenge but then yeah those other challenges idk.

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I was at the game heres  what I got.  Black uniforms are awesome and Sam has never lost wearing them.  The giants suck more than we do.  

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1 hour ago, KRL said:


Offense

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- Finally, an awful look on the sideline when the Jets challenged two plays
late in the game.  Why is Dowell Loggains throwing the flag and talking to 
the refs???  Adam Gase needs to be doing that, he can't look subservient to
an assistant coach

This last point you made is very insightful.  If Gase thinks that this is okay to give up his authority to a subordinate, it will have negative repercussions down the road.  Good catch!!

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1 hour ago, KRL said:

- Jamal Adams stopped pouting and had a "Troy Polamalu" performance
(9 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 QB Hits, 1 jump over the OLine & 1 TD).  On his
TD he "punked" Barkley when he tried to block him and totally dismissed
Jones as he pulled the ball away from him.  Nice bounce back performance
BUT if someone offers Joe Douglas what he wants in the off season I would
still trade him. Our priority must be OLine, pass rush and CB for 2020

I see a "curse" in the making.

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5 minutes ago, Alka said:

This last point you made is very insightful.  If Gase thinks that this is okay to give up his authority to a subordinate, it will have negative repercussions down the road.  Good catch!!

he's not giving up authority, he's looking for a scape-goat

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57 minutes ago, Alka said:

This last point you made is very insightful.  If Gase thinks that this is okay to give up his authority to a subordinate, it will have negative repercussions down the road.  Good catch!!

Hey he had to throw his flunky a bone sometime, what with him baking those delicious rolls all the time and always ready for a coffee run.

No harm in letting him throw the flag out on the field.  It looked like fun.

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11 hours ago, KRL said:

Jamal Adams stopped pouting and had a "Troy Polamalu" performance
(9 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 QB Hits, 1 jump over the OLine & 1 TD).  On his
TD he "punked" Barkley when he tried to block him and totally dismissed
Jones as he pulled the ball away from him.  Nice bounce back performance
BUT if someone offers Joe Douglas what he wants in the off season I would
still trade him. Our priority must be OLine, pass rush and CB for 2020

At some point we need to keep our good players. If our GM's could actually draft well, we would not even be considering this unless we thought the $ would be astronomical!!

11 hours ago, KRL said:

The OLine as usual had no push and opened no holes in the run game but
they were servicable in pass protection.  With Kelvin Beachum back at LT
Chuma Edoga went back to RT and performed much better.  I want to see more
but it seems like Edoga may only be comfortable on the right side

I'll wait to see where Edoga is after training camp next season. He has the body of a LT.... he needs to work on his strength and footwork! If he lays off the weed, he might project as a future LT. This should not, however, prevent us from drafting a LT & C in the 1st four rounds next year.

11 hours ago, KRL said:

I re-watched the flea flicker three times and think
Vyncint Smith broke too much to the sideline which caused the incompletion.
No matter who messed up it was an awful missed opportunity which this team
can't afford.  Darnold has to build on this over the next seven games, he's
got to make the "regression" talk disappear

I also think VS delayed the deep route too long after "selling" the run. Sam is used to Robbie speed.... not VS speed. I also agree his angle was bad.

Good summary KRL. We own the city for the next 4 years!!

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9 hours ago, johnnyjet said:

I was at the game heres  what I got.  Black uniforms are awesome and Sam has never lost wearing them.  The giants suck more than we do.  

Came to say we lost to the Browns while wearing Black, then realized that Sam did not play and your point is correct.

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11 hours ago, KRL said:

There was a ton of derogatory names and jokes thrown around about this
matchup.  But I'm not going there, the Jets actually won and for one
Sunday afternoon I could smile after the game:

 

Special Teams

- Lachlan Edwards continued his solid year as he averaged 45.6 yards
per punt and put two inside the 20 yard line

- Sam Ficken had a solid game with 2 FG's and 4 XP's for 10 points.  And
his kickoff strength is excellent, BUT if he wants to lock up the job for
2020 he's got to make that 54 yarder before the half.  The weather was
decent and the wind was calm, you have to pick up your team there and 
put points on the board

- Nothing special in the return game from either Ty Montgomery or Braxton
Berrios.  But Berrios did have one decent punt return (15+ yards) that
allowed the offense to start from the 50 on their second TD drive


Defense

- A mixed bag analyzing their performance.  They performed at a "Hall of
Fame" level in the run game holding Barkley and the other backs to 23
yards on 17 carries.  But for the first 40 minutes of the game they
were awful defending the pass.  Allowing Jones, Slayton and Tate to 
look like Bradshaw, Swann and Stallworth.  But in the last 20 minutes
of the game things turned dramatically, in that period Jones was held
to 8/16 for 53 yards and three sacks.  Smart adjustments by Gregg Williams
as he threw zone coverage at Jones that looked like man which caused
confusion and allowed the pass rush to get home

- Terrific games by Steve McLendon (3 tackles, .5 sack, 1 QB Hit), Nathan
Shepherd (3 tackles, 1 sack, 3 TFL, 1 QB Hit) and Jordan Jenkins (2 sacks,
2 TFL and 2 QB Hits)

- Very poor game by Nate Hairston, to the point where he was benched in
the second quarter.  He was either getting beat in coverage, blowing an
assigment or causing a penalty.  Hopefully he can recover because they
need young CB's for 2020

- Hairston's awful day led to the debut of Bless Austin and he was
impressive.  He defended two passes, almost had an INT and showed good
run support with 3 tackles.  Playing for the first time since blowing
out his ACL at Rutgers he showed tons of promise

- Jamal Adams stopped pouting and had a "Troy Polamalu" performance
(9 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 QB Hits, 1 jump over the OLine & 1 TD).  On his
TD he "punked" Barkley when he tried to block him and totally dismissed
Jones as he pulled the ball away from him.  Nice bounce back performance
BUT if someone offers Joe Douglas what he wants in the off season I would
still trade him. Our priority must be OLine, pass rush and CB for 2020


Offense

- The OLine as usual had no push and opened no holes in the run game but
they were servicable in pass protection.  With Kelvin Beachum back at LT
Chuma Edoga went back to RT and performed much better.  I want to see more
but it seems like Edoga may only be comfortable on the right side

- Excellent games by Jamison Crowder (5 recs, 81 yds, 1 TD) and Demaryius
Thomas (6 recs, 84 yds).  When Thomas was picked up I wondered how much he
had left in the tank but I've been impressed with his performance.  I
wouldn't mind if he was a #4 WR on the team next year

- Solid game by Sam Darnold (19/30 230 yds, 2 TD) as he was in control and
finally didn't turn the ball over.  Displayed his "off script" ability as
NYG brought pressure but he was able to find receivers down field as the
play broke down.  I re-watched the flea flicker three times and think
Vyncint Smith broke too much to the sideline which caused the incompletion.
No matter who messed up it was an awful missed opportunity which this team
can't afford.  Darnold has to build on this over the next seven games, he's
got to make the "regression" talk disappear

- Finally, an awful look on the sideline when the Jets challenged two plays
late in the game.  Why is Dowell Loggains throwing the flag and talking to 
the refs???  Adam Gase needs to be doing that, he can't look subservient to
an assistant coach

I couldn't agree more with about the challenges although that might have beeb Jim Bob Cooter and not Loggins prominently involved, but either way it is inconceivable that anyone other than Gase was throwing it. On top of that neither play was worth challenging, it was a one score game with 4 mins left and we burned 2 time outs and both challenges.....you CANNOT be that terrible at in game situations.

I can't believe what we saw out of Shephard, not only did he play great but he looked like he was in phenomal shape - looks like the PEDs did their job.

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I was particularly happy for Nate Shepherd, who's been a bit of a poster boy for Maccagnan's bad picks around here. Three tackles, all for a loss, including a sack. Much better game than Leonard Williams, who you'd think would be licking his chops at the thought of facing the OL of the NYJ. Also very pleased seeing Austin and Wesco on the field and contributing in a positive way. 

On offense, I think we're now up to three games in a row where the Jets scored a TD on their opening drive after not doing that since 2017. Sam looked confident and consistently made good decisions. One of my favorite plays was early in the game when he was something like 9 for 9 at that point, and he's scrambling behind the LoS looking for a receiver, didn't find one, and threw the ball away. The previous couple weeks, that would've been a stupid interception. I've been screaming at the TV for someone to tell Sam it's okay to throw the ball away, especially on 1st & 10. Looks like someone finally did. The dart he threw to Robby Anderson while he was arguably already sacked was a FQB type play. 

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Very happy about the win and the bounce back performance by Darnold but I still don't feel great about our offense.  It completely disappeared in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.  This has been a theme for Gase the entire year and he has shown very little ability to make the proper in game adjustments to sustain an offensive attack for the entire game.  

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