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Popular Post jetscrazey Posted November 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2019 Schreff gonna get paid this offseason. Hope it’s the Jets who pay him 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 What on Earth will Quenton Nelson get? $17M+ per year? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Schreff gonna get paid this offseason. Hope it’s the Jets who pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 No no. OG, OC and S do get paid. They’re useless and can be found begging for money at 7/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Schreff gonna get paid this offseason. Hope it’s the Jets who pay him Get to scout him Sunday when Fatukasi and Shepherd blow him up for sacks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: No no. OG, OC and S do get paid. They’re useless and can be found begging for money at 7/11. If they are a Center like Mawae or Mangold... You pay them, regardless... They snap the ball they can set blocking assignments, they can be the leader of the OL... Important... Guard and Safety I basically agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted November 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2019 Any position on the OL is worth paying for if the player is good. The NFL is different now. An upright QB basically guarantees you 300 yards and 2TDs by career backups. It’s money well spent. QBs get time. DBs can’t contact WRs, eventually it leads to easy Pickens if you have halfway competent people. Go pay for Scherff. Spend the 3rd for Leo on another guard, center or WR, and call it a day. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 This is the reason why the draft is so important. Sure hope Joey Dollars understands this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 hours ago, peebag said: This is the reason why the draft is so important. Sure hope Joey Dollars understands this. JD has to hit on his Oline picks. We can afford 1 expensive toy like Scherff. We're gonna need some veteran experience you can't have an all rookie Oline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Any position on the OL is worth paying for if the player is good. The NFL is different now. An upright QB basically guarantees you 300 yards and 2TDs by career backups. It’s money well spent. QBs get time. DBs can’t contact WRs, eventually it leads to easy Pickens if you have halfway competent people. Go pay for Scherff. Spend the 3rd for Leo on another guard, center or WR, and call it a day. Maybe we should also stop waiting unt the 3rd round to invest in the Oline. Everything you said was absolutely spot on, which is why we need to seriously invest draft capital at the oline. Scherff is about to be paid and was taken 1 spot ahead of the guy we drafted right after him and eventually traded for a 3rd round pick. This offseason needs to be Oline and WR's as top priority, with Oline being by far the most important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I know people may take this as affirmation that the Jets should/will pay big for inside linemen this offseason, but I think what it really means is that they might not be so quick to move on from Winters. $7.5M for Winters has seemed high all along, but he is probably paid as a mid-pack at RG right now and there will probably be a bunch of guys leapfrogging him this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Maybe we should also stop waiting unt the 3rd round to invest in the Oline. Everything you said was absolutely spot on, which is why we need to seriously invest draft capital at the oline. Scherff is about to be paid and was taken 1 spot ahead of the guy we drafted right after him and eventually traded for a 3rd round pick. This offseason needs to be Oline and WR's as top priority, with Oline being by far the most important. QB, OL, OL, OL, WR, CB that is allSent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 This is a reaction to the up and coming Jets. Teams are realizing that pass rush no longer best stems from the edge, but from the DT position. Teams are now looking to protect that middle. PS-The running game is making a comeback too. Jets ahead of curve there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 This is a reaction to the up and coming Jets. Teams are realizing that pass rush no longer best stems from the edge, but from the DT position. Teams are now looking to protect that middle. PS-The running game is making a comeback too. Jets ahead of curve there too.I remember when we had four DTsSent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Think of the money we'll save with Douglas using premium draft picks on the offensive line for us instead of Mac's pick-n-pull off of the scrap heap philosophy towards the offensive line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I predict Edoga will be in the mix for RT Harrison for Center and General backup Signing Scherff would be good. The Jets will likely have Thomas or Wirfs to draft. The QBs and Chase get picked first. if they trade Adams they draft a Center with second first round pick. Even if they don’t they find someone else and have Harrison 2nd round pick is BPA Wr, CB, C (if not picked already) 2 third round picks. extend Robbie, Jenkins, Poole, Lewis. Voila! Much better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Every position group’s salaries are going up. As long as the cap keeps increasing by the 10-12 million dollars per year, all salaries will rise. This isn’t a revelation that OG’s are suddenly more valuable, it’s just one of the best players at his position is getting his market value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Every position group’s salaries are going up. As long as the cap keeps increasing by the 10-12 million dollars per year, all salaries will rise. This isn’t a revelation that OG’s are suddenly more valuable, it’s just one of the best players at his position is getting his market value. This The best OG’s have been getting paid in the 8 figures for years now. Scherff is the only FA that I would pay big bucks to. Tie him down then look for budget deals elsewhere leading up to the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Jets have been lost for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Untouchable said: This The best OG’s have been getting paid in the 8 figures for years now. Scherff is the only FA that I would pay big bucks to. Tie him down then look for budget deals elsewhere leading up to the draft. True. The best players at every position are getting paid. We saw a safety and a middle linebacker get $80 million dollar deals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, varjet said: I predict Edoga will be in the mix for RT Harrison for Center and General backup Signing Scherff would be good. The Jets will likely have Thomas or Wirfs to draft. The QBs and Chase get picked first. if they trade Adams they draft a Center with second first round pick. Even if they don’t they find someone else and have Harrison 2nd round pick is BPA Wr, CB, C (if not picked already) 2 third round picks. extend Robbie, Jenkins, Poole, Lewis. Voila! Much better team. Tankathon's mock draft for jets based on current needs and position: 5. Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama 36. Curtis Weaver, Edge Boise State 67. Nick Harris, C Washington 70. Trey Smith, OG,OT Tennesee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Tankathon's mock draft for jets based on current needs and position: 5. Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama 36. Curtis Weaver, Edge Boise State 67. Nick Harris, C Washington 70. Trey Smith, OG,OT Tennesee Just looked at that mock. In those scenarios I’m taking OT Jedrick Wills from Alabama at 36 instead of Weaver and taking Antonio Gandy-Golden at 70 instead of Smith. Juedy, Wills, Harris and AGG would be a nice start to the draft. Especially if a guy like Scherff is signed in FA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Just looked at that mock. In those scenarios I’m taking OT Jedrick Wills from Alabama at 36 instead of Weaver and taking Antonio Gandy-Golden at 70 instead of Smith. Juedy, Wills, Harris and AGG would be a nice start to the draft. Especially if a guy like Scherff is signed in FA. Everyone's is going to hate to hear this, but the Jets o-line is going to take time to mesh next year. A clampdown CB is going to be needed to buy time for this offense to totally gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Everyone's is going to hate to hear this, but the Jets o-line is going to take time to mesh next year. A clampdown CB is going to be needed to buy time for this offense to totally gel. I don’t think you need lockdown type corners, just need a few NFL caliber CBs. Sure one would be nice, but I would like to have 3 guys who are average to slightly above average. Especially since our safeties are supposedly so good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Any position on the OL is worth paying for if the player is good. The NFL is different now. An upright QB basically guarantees you 300 yards and 2TDs by career backups. It’s money well spent. QBs get time. DBs can’t contact WRs, eventually it leads to easy Pickens if you have halfway competent people. Go pay for Scherff. Spend the 3rd for Leo on another guard, center or WR, and call it a day. Yep, pay for two, draft two and keep one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I don’t think you need lockdown type corners, just need a few NFL caliber CBs. Sure one would be nice, but I would like to have 3 guys who are average to slightly above average. Especially since our safeties are supposedly so good. I’d get pass rushers waaaay over CBS now w the rules 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, HessStation said: I’d get pass rusher waaaay over CBS now w the rules Absolutely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Imagine what Nelson gets in 2 years. $100 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, HessStation said: I’d get pass rushers waaaay over CBS now w the rules After seeing the effect that Minkah Fitzpatrick had on the Steelers defense, and how it has helped every other position, I am convinced of what an elite CB can do for a team. It is rare that you get to see how an in-season personnel change has on a unit, but in the Steelers case, it has been dramatic. Look at their numbers from before Fitzpatrick was there, to today. They are stark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Any position on the OL is worth paying for if the player is good. The NFL is different now. An upright QB basically guarantees you 300 yards and 2TDs by career backups. It’s money well spent. QBs get time. DBs can’t contact WRs, eventually it leads to easy Pickens if you have halfway competent people. Go pay for Scherff. Spend the 3rd for Leo on another guard, center or WR, and call it a day. Unfortunately that'd only be a good start. We still need 2 starting tackles. Though it's not where he's best-suited, Scherff could play LT. Either way, if we do sign him, hopefully his career doesn't hit a wall earlier than later. He's going to be a 29 year-old FA. No it's not old, but Ferguson had already started showing signs of slowing down by age 30 and none of us expected that. I'm not saying stay away, but he's missed time in each of the past 3 seasons (significant time / IR in 2018), so we should go into that with our eyes open. (This is a team that went into opening day with Osemele and Winters starting, I'll grant you, and there is an expression about the beggars being choosy for good reason). Honestly I don't know what to do about the tackles. Hopefully the light starts to go on for Edoga, and he can shore up the right side next year (even if we move on from him shortly thereafter). Unfortunately he's shown no reason to believe that's going to happen other than pure fan hope & desire, and the knowledge that some guys just start clicking after a certain amount of experience. Winters is a good example; he was never anything great, but for a while was at least average. At the Edoga-stage of his career, though, he was arguably even worse than Edoga. Then I suppose the team could re-sign Beachum, if all other upgrade attempts fail, but holy meh. This is why with certain low-supply positions you get them when you can (especially in the draft), not get them when you need them. We may very well draft a long term solution left tackle in April. Unfortunately we can't go into the draft without a starter already signed just in case we don't land a good LT prospect when our pick comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 The NFL is about two things right now. 1. Guys who get to the QB. 2. Guys who keep guys from getting to the QB. Kyle Allen, Gardner Minshew, Ryan Tannehill, etc. were all having success simply because they are being kept upright. NFL rules have changed such that this is a pitch and catch league with yellow flags everywhere for breathing on WRs. You just need a guy who can make some decent reads and get the ball in the vicinity of a good WR. BUT....and here's the thing....a ball can't be caught unless it's thrown and a ball can't be thrown by a guy who is on his back because his team can't keep him from getting sacked. OLine or Edge in Round 1....then again in Round 2 with the opposite....then again. The entire NFL is about a race to the QB and whether an OLine can stop/delay it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 hours ago, sec101row23 said: I don’t think you need lockdown type corners, just need a few NFL caliber CBs. Sure one would be nice, but I would like to have 3 guys who are average to slightly above average. Especially since our safeties are supposedly so good. Without committing PI a corner can stay with a WR for about 3-4 seconds. So, you need pass rushers that can destroy that OL and rush the ball out make corners relevant. Alternatively, a dominant OL will make the offense hum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 8:32 AM, sec101row23 said: Every position group’s salaries are going up. As long as the cap keeps increasing by the 10-12 million dollars per year, all salaries will rise. This isn’t a revelation that OG’s are suddenly more valuable, it’s just one of the best players at his position is getting his market value. didn't mankins get some decent money a few years back/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The best OL highlight reel you'll ever see: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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