Sonny Werblin Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 hours ago, THE BARON said: Hello... I saw the previous post about assembling the Jets all time defense. Some nice picks and info... Anyone wanna take a crack at offense + special teams ??? LT- Marvin Powell LG: Faneca (his early tenure with the Jets) Center: Mangold TE: Mickey Shuler RG: Dan Alexander RT: Chris Ward RB1: Curtis Martin RB2 Matt Snell WR1; Don Maynard (tough call leaving Walker out, but Maynard is in the HOF) WR2: Al Toon Slot: Wayne Chrebet QB: Joe Namath Punt/Kick Return: Bruce Harper K. Pat Leahy P. Dave Jennings Some changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Vinny had a phenomenal year, but **** the three of them. I will take Kenny O. You can throw around whatever bullsh*t you want, but he was stuck with those two moronic coaches - Walton with Kotite as an OC. I will stand by him over the others. He could throw the ******* ball Kenny O was good passer, very strong arm and he was more a victim of bad offensive lines than even Walton or Kotite, but he was about the least mobile QB I ever saw. He was a sitting duck back there. It's the biggest reason we lost games with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Kenny O was good passer, very strong arm and he was more a victim of bad offensive lines than even Walton or Kotite, but he was about the least mobile QB I ever saw. He was a sitting duck back there. It's the biggest reason we lost games with him. ... and in the modern NFL he would get 62 roughing the passer penalties per season. At 15 yards a pop that's almost an extra 1,000 yards! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 LT: Marvin Powell LG: Alan Faneca OC: NickMangold RG: Kevin Mawae RT: Chris Ward TE: Mickey Shuler RB: Curtis Martin FB: Richie Anderson WR: Don Maynard WR: Al Toon WR: Wesley Walker QB: Joe Namath KR/PR: Andre Roberts K: Pat Leahy P: Dave Jennings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Im gonna go out on a limb and say the guy who won us Super Bowl III and is in the Football Hall of Fame is without question the Jets All Time best QB and anyone who says different needs their heads examined! Although I will say that we all need our heads examined for being Jets Fans! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 You guys that put Pennington as QB are hilarious. He’s not even top 3. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I would have Keyshawn for sure. Need that big target to balance the other bugs out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Y3k said: I would have Keyshawn for sure. Need that big target to balance the other bugs out Al Toon was a 6'4" triple jumper and Keyshawn couldnt carry his jock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, Y3k said: I would have Keyshawn for sure. Need that big target to balance the other bugs out Over Maynard, Toon and Walker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Based on who I've seen here's mine, we had three great centers and I'm taking all of them: LT - Brick Ferguson LG - Nick Mangold C - Kevin Mawae RG - Joe Fields RT - Marvin Powell TE - Mickey Shuler WR - Wesley Walker, Al Toon Slot - Wayne Chrebet FB - Richie Anderson RB - Curtis Martin Third Down RB - Bruce Harper QB - Vinny Testaverde (1998 Version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 hours ago, THE BARON said: Hello... I saw the previous post about assembling the Jets all time defense. Some nice picks and info... Anyone wanna take a crack at offense + special teams ??? LT- Birck (post Faneca arrival) * I would list Winston Hill, but I never saw him play LG: Faneca (his early tenure with the Jets) Center: Mangold TE: Mickey Shuler RG: Dan Alexander RT: Marvin Powell RB1: Freeman McNeil RB2 (pick a full back or scat back): Leon Washington WR1; Wesley Walker WR2: Al Toon Slot: Wayne Chrebet QB: Chad (before first injury) Punt/Kick Return: Bruce Harper K. Pat Layhey P. Dave Jennings Faneca was an all time great for the Steelers but he sucked for us. Even his one not-terrible season here wasn't as good as other players have been even in the post-Parcels era. Kendall was better in his own short term here, as was Carpenter in his first 2 seasons. And this is just among those after y2k, never mind all time in the franchise's history. Faneca helped Brick, but so did Brick entering his 3rd season as well as Faneca replacing a total zero. By Faneca's second season here he was among the league's worst guards and we cut him - correctly - even though his 3rd season was guaranteed. After 1 year for the Cardinals (playing just as badly for them) he was out of the league for good. Last I heard he was an ironman triathlete or something and was really slimmed down (good for him). Point about his 2nd season here is even though Faneca was terrible, IIRC allowing the most QB pressures of any LG in the league - Brick got even better still. Ferguson was a premiere young talent and he just required more than a year or two playing next to the likes of Adrien Clarke to show how good he could be. Agree on your RB1 though, however much flack others are giving you. For a career? Yeah few outlasted Martin, who was an excellent all around back with legendary stamina and pain tolerance. But for just 1-3 years for a SB run, where you didn't want/need to hand the ball off to the same player 330 times? McNeil was just a more dangerous runner with the football in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Kenny O was good passer, very strong arm and he was more a victim of bad offensive lines than even Walton or Kotite, but he was about the least mobile QB I ever saw. He was a sitting duck back there. It's the biggest reason we lost games with him. I liked O'Brien a lot. All agree he had a great arm and excellent ball placement. His downfall was pocket awareness and not that he was immobile. Even a fat cow can take a single step to avoid a freight train *if* the fat cow can see, feel or hear it coming. The o-lines in front of O'Brien got a bad name because it was close to impossible to protect him. He didn't see the pressure and take that all important step up, back or to the side. The brass spent a lot of effort and draft picks trying to protect him. Dave Cadigan, Mike Haight, Jeff Criswell and a few others. I'm seeing somewhat of the same issue with Daniel Jones. He is not aware of the pressure. He sure can move, but he seems deaf dumb and blind to the pressure at times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Faneca was an all time great for the Steelers but he sucked for us. Even his one not-terrible season here wasn't as good as other players have been even in the post-Parcels era. Kendall was better in his own short term here, as was Carpenter in his first 2 seasons. And this is just among those after y2k, never mind all time in the franchise's history. Faneca helped Brick, but so did Brick entering his 3rd season as well as Faneca replacing a total zero. By Faneca's second season here he was among the league's worst guards and we cut him - correctly - even though his 3rd season was guaranteed. After 1 year for the Cardinals (playing just as badly for them) he was out of the league for good. Last I heard he was an ironman triathlete or something and was really slimmed down (good for him). Point about his 2nd season here is even though Faneca was terrible, IIRC allowing the most QB pressures of any LG in the league - Brick got even better still. Ferguson was a premiere young talent and he just required more than a year or two playing next to the likes of Adrien Clarke to show how good he could be. Agree on your RB1 though, however much flack others are giving you. For a career? Yeah few outlasted Martin, who was an excellent all around back with legendary stamina and pain tolerance. But for just 1-3 years for a SB run, where you didn't want/need to hand the ball off to the same player 330 times? McNeil was just a more dangerous runner with the football in hand. Agree with everything you wrote regarding Faneca. He had a good year with the Jets and then became a liability especially in pass blocking. He was getting blown up regularly. I'd take him when he was effective, but certainly not at the end of his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 easy: QB: Namath/O’Brien RB: Martin/McNeil FB: Riggins/Richardson TE: Shuler/Keller/Baker WR: Walker/Toon/Maynard/Chrebet/Moore OT: Hill/Ferguson OG: Fields/Faneca OC: Mangold/Mawae OG: Alexander/Rasmussen OT: Powell/Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 WR 1 Maynard WR 2 Toon TE Schuler LT Brick LG Rasmussen (seriously, Faneca played for us for three years, Rasmussen played til 81) C Mawae RG Alexander RT Hill QB Namath RB Martin FB Riggo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 hours ago, THE BARON said: Hello... I saw the previous post about assembling the Jets all time defense. Some nice picks and info... Anyone wanna take a crack at offense + special teams ??? LT- Birck (post Faneca arrival) * I would list Winston Hill, but I never saw him play LG: Faneca (his early tenure with the Jets) Center: Mangold TE: Mickey Shuler RG: Dan Alexander RT: Marvin Powell RB1: Freeman McNeil RB2 (pick a full back or scat back): Leon Washington WR1; Wesley Walker WR2: Al Toon Slot: Wayne Chrebet QB: Chad (before first injury) Punt/Kick Return: Bruce Harper K. Pat Layhey P. Dave Jennings HC: Adam Gase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: LT: Brandon Shell LG: James Carpenter C : Spencer Long RG: Brian Winters RT: Brent Qvale TE: Doug Jolley WR1: David Clowney WR2: Curtis Conway SlotWR: Wallace Wright RB: Lamont Jordan QB: Chad Pennington Dude, no Justin McCareins? This list is clown shoes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, HessStation said: easy: QB: Namath/O’Brien RB: Martin/McNeil FB: Riggins/Richardson TE: Shuler/Keller/Baker WR: Walker/Toon/Maynard/Chrebet/Moore OT: Hill/Ferguson OG: Fields/Faneca OC: Mangold/Mawae OG: Alexander/Rasmussen OT: Powell/Elliot Great list made a few changes of preference. Caster was a TE/WR. Barkum was an awesome all-round TE that could block and was a red zone threat, and Coles could take the top off and be a slot. Coles/Maynard/Walker would be a speed problem all day. Fields was a center, but I get it. QB: Namath/O’Brien RB: Martin/McNeil FB: Riggins/Richardson TE: Shuler/Barkum/Caster WR: Walker/Toon/Maynard/Chrebet/Coles OT: Hill/Ferguson OG: Fields/Faneca OC: Mangold/Mawae OG: Alexander/Rasmussen OT: Powell/Elliot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Green DNA said: 1980 is the beginning of time apparently. Yes, we just dreamed about Joe Namath and Don Maynard, two hall of famers that shocked the world in professional football. Has anyone ever heard of Richard Caster at Tight end? For me, opposite Don Maynard would be Wesley Walker. Three guys on the "O" line would be Marvin Powell at right tackle, Winston Hill at left tackle, and Nick Mangold at center. Randy Rasmussen may not have been one of the greatest left guards, but he did start like 160 games in a row without missing one single game. He shouldn't be dismissed. Faneca was on his way down when he came to the Jets, even though his initial 2 years were still very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 backs and you guys aren't taking Snell? Are you just too young? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 12 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Vinny had a phenomenal year, but **** the three of them. I will take Kenny O. You can throw around whatever bullsh*t you want, but he was stuck with those two moronic coaches - Walton with Kotite as an OC. I will stand by him over the others. He could throw the ******* ball Wasn't Pat Ryan stuck with them too? Yet he took Ken's team and won a playoff game and had the Jets in position to win another one before he got hurt and Ken came in and did absolutely nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 17 hours ago, Losmeister said: from my observations- only thing curtis was better at was durability. Bingo also after the Tuna left he got his old college coach as OC, without Hackett I doubt the compiler would have been able to compile enough to make the HOF.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Wasn't Pat Ryan stuck with them too? Yet he took Ken's team and won a playoff game and had the Jets in position to win another one before he got hurt and Ken came in and did absolutely nothing. Yep Kenny had a arm but feet of stone not even 1 rushing td in his career. Namath had 7 and he wore braces.. Plus Kenny had a really slow release.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 hours ago, pdxgreen said: WR 1 Maynard WR 2 Toon TE Schuler LT Brick LG Rasmussen (seriously, Faneca played for us for three years, Rasmussen played til 81) C Mawae RG Alexander RT Hill QB Namath RB Martin FB Riggo This team would never lose.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Yep Kenny had a arm but feet of stone not even 1 rushing td in his career. Namath had 7 and he wore braces.. Plus Kenny had a really slow release.. He was like a Bledsoe type, he'd hang in there always looking for the big play. He took a million unnecessary sacks in the process. He's one of those guys that is very overrated by Jet fans because they see some YouTube clips of him throwing downfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: He took a million unnecessary sacks in the process. drove me bonkers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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