Villain The Foe Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, y2k8 said: Sure, I'll play, Robbie has the tools but lacks the fighter's instinct to be a number 1 WR. Outside of one instance many, many games ago in a season far, far away, he loses EVERY battle for a ball, and way too often just doesn't even bother to come back to meet the pass. If you don't hit him in the hands, it's basically an incompletion. Very frustrating to watch. Now go find me that clip. If you're going to play, then why is it what you wrote above still doesnt reflect in your original comment which is below? It's still wrong. Now go, update it so it can be accurate. On 11/14/2019 at 3:16 PM, y2k8 said: Robbie has the tools but lacks the fighter's instinct to be a number 1 WR. He loses every battle for a ball, and way too often just doesn't even bother to come back to meet the pass. If you don't hit him in the hands, it's basically an incompletion. Very frustrating to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 @Losmeister Have a look at Walkers Yards per catch he put up some of the best YPC stats in the history of the game during an era 60 catches was a great season. His over all average of 19.0 was amazing for its time as well. Since you are into comparing stats and both Receivers are so called Burners Robbies best YPC was 15 in a season ....Wesleys career number beats that by a 4 yards per catch . Now lets look into the first 3 years where Wesley averaged 21 , 24 and 24 yards per catch to Robbies 14,15,14 .... Also keep in mind Walker missed 9 games his first 3 seasons and still had better over all numbers than Anderson in just about every category and was first team all pro in his second season. Robbie will NEVER be an All Pro hes lucky if he even sniffs the pro bowl as an alternate. If you care to continue this conversation and continue to believe Anderson compares to Walker in any way shape or form be my guest because your argument does not hold water in any way at all. Receiving & Rushing * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get as Excel Workbook (experimental) Get table as CSV (for Excel) Strip Mobile Formatting Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Video: SR Sharing Tools & How-to Video: Stats Table Tips & Tricks Glossary Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 154 129 438 8306 19.0 71 96 2.8 53.9 6 35 0 12 5.8 0.2 0.0 444 18.8 8341 71 9 91 1977 22 NYJ WR 85 14 14 35 740 21.1 3 87 2.5 52.9 3 25 0 11 8.3 1.8 0.2 38 20.1 765 3 2 8 1978*+ 23 NYJ WR 85 16 16 48 1169 24.4 8 77 3.0 73.1 1 -3 0 -3 -3.0 -0.2 0.1 49 23.8 1166 8 2 16 1979 24 NYJ WR 85 9 9 23 569 24.7 5 71 2.6 63.2 23 24.7 569 5 0 6 1980 25 NYJ WR 85 10 7 18 376 20.9 1 47 1.8 37.6 18 20.9 376 1 0 3 1981 26 NYJ WR 85 13 13 47 770 16.4 9 49 3.6 59.2 47 16.4 770 9 0 7 1982* 27 NYJ WR 85 9 9 39 620 15.9 6 56 4.3 68.9 39 15.9 620 6 0 13 1983 28 NYJ WR 85 16 16 61 868 14.2 7 64 3.8 54.3 61 14.2 868 7 0 6 1984 29 NYJ WR 85 12 10 41 623 15.2 7 44 3.4 51.9 1 1 0 1 1.0 0.1 0.1 42 14.9 624 7 0 6 1985 30 NYJ WR 85 12 10 34 725 21.3 5 96 2.8 60.4 34 21.3 725 5 1 7 1986 31 NYJ WR 85 16 8 49 1016 20.7 12 83 3.1 63.5 49 20.7 1016 12 3 10 1987 32 NYJ wr 85 5 4 9 190 21.1 1 59 1.8 38.0 9 21.1 190 1 0 2 1988 33 NYJ WR 85 16 10 26 551 21.2 7 50 1.6 34.4 1 12 0 12 12.0 0.8 0.1 27 20.9 563 7 1 6 1989 34 NYJ wr 85 6 3 8 89 11.1 0 31 1.3 14.8 8 11.1 89 0 0 1 Receiving & Rushing * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get as Excel Workbook (experimental) Get table as CSV (for Excel) Strip Mobile Formatting Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Video: SR Sharing Tools & How-to Video: Stats Table Tips & Tricks Glossary Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 55 40 336 179 2633 14.7 16 100 92 3.3 47.9 53.3% 7.8 8 43 0 2 30 5.4 0.8 0.1 187 14.3 2676 16 3 17 2016 23 NYJ wr 11 16 8 78 42 587 14.0 2 19 52 2.6 36.7 53.8% 7.5 3 42 0 2 30 14.0 2.6 0.2 45 14.0 629 2 1 4 2017 24 NYJ WR 11 16 15 114 63 941 14.9 7 38 69 3.9 58.8 55.3% 8.3 3 9 0 0 7 3.0 0.6 0.2 66 14.4 950 7 0 7 2018 25 NYJ WR 11 14 9 94 50 752 15.0 6 30 76 3.6 53.7 53.2% 8.0 2 -8 0 0 1 -4.0 -0.6 0.1 52 14.3 744 6 2 6 2019 26 NYJ WR 11 9 8 50 24 353 14.7 1 13 92 2.7 39.2 48.0% 7.1 24 14.7 353 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Well, the avg yds per catch certainly are in his favor.....he was the bang for the buck KING there for a few seasons, 'and I just wanna let you know I alwasy loved and will love Wes Walker. RA's career is in its beginning... we'll see what we;ll see.. VERY VERY SIMILAR PLAYERS Wes had 16 TD his 1st 4 yrs, RA has 15 and he's got 7 games to go..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: If you're going to play, then why is it what you wrote above still doesnt reflect in your original comment which is below? It's still wrong. Now go, update it so it can be accurate. this is a silly exchange. i hope you enjoyed today's win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, y2k8 said: this is a silly exchange. i hope you enjoyed today's win. Awesome win. Nice TD by Robby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounap23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 2:23 PM, Losmeister said: This is true. My concern is the high degree of variability in his play EVEN WHEN HE IS PROTECTED. This is PART of the problem. The OL is the biggest part, and DBs and lack of sacks is also part of the problem. I have seen him roll and throw and complete. I have seen him roll and throw and throw a ground ball that is uncatchable. The Slant INT in RZ vs Cowboys that kept them in the game? WTF was that garbage? He misses too many deep throws. And I wouldn't count you among SDAC. He's young and has to work through his ups and downs. Just impossible to do when the line plays as poor as it had. Though a stellar game today and it was a very good performance sans 1 throw by Sam. A consistently decent OL will tell us who Sam is. I am hoping for the best, I think this kid has it but my fear is he will be just like Jameis Winston,wildly inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, lounap23 said: like Jameis Winston,wildly inconsistent. all the signs are there. i also hope he is better than that... i saw todd to walker opening day 1978 at shea.... i convinced myself THAT was he he was...(todd...#14). i was dead wrong.... and i wont believe until he makes me.... i am still rooting for him.. prolly more thna you know like a MF!! but i wont turn away from his bad play when it appears.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Awesome win. Nice TD by Robby. yeah on a botched play by the defense so no one was within 10 yards of Robbie thats just how he likes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: yeah on a botched play by the defense so no one was within 10 yards of Robbie thats just how he likes it cmon man. hes no supermn. just an UDFA that gets some TDs. and is a GOOD deep threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: yeah on a botched play by the defense so no one was within 10 yards of Robbie thats just how he likes it Funny how folks parade Sam's 4 TD performance tho. Lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Funny how folks parade Sam's 4 TD performance tho. Lmao. If you’re lucky Baker ends up a slightly better Jay Fiedler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Awesome win. Nice TD by Robby. If you're only going to have one catch, at least make it a touchdown.... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounap23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Losmeister said: all the signs are there. i also hope he is better than that... i saw todd to walker opening day 1978 at shea.... i convinced myself THAT was he he was...(todd...#14). i was dead wrong.... and i wont believe until he makes me.... i am still rooting for him.. prolly more thna you know like a MF!! but i wont turn away from his bad play when it appears.... I am with you brother. I was 5 years old when I went to my first Jets Game in 1976. Not knowing much about football but the Jets won 34-0 against the Bucs. I thought they were the greatest team in football. A game in which Richard Todd played. Little did I know pretty much the only worse team in football that year was the Bucs. LOL. But with that said I fear he could be a Winston but I don't think he will be. I don't have the rose colored glasses I had on for Sanchez I just see too many good things from him when the OLine elevates it's play to below average. Darnolds progress is gonna be on Douglas more than Gase IMO. Douglas has got to fix the OL THIS offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, y2k8 said: If you're only going to have one catch, at least make it a touchdown.... ? He makes it count the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 9:53 AM, Losmeister said: Well, the avg yds per catch certainly are in his favor.....he was the bang for the buck KING there for a few seasons, 'and I just wanna let you know I alwasy loved and will love Wes Walker. RA's career is in its beginning... we'll see what we;ll see.. VERY VERY SIMILAR PLAYERS Wes had 16 TD his 1st 4 yrs, RA has 15 and he's got 7 games to go..... Wesley Walker had 17 TD in his first 46 games starting for the NYJ. 2nd rnd selection Robby Anderson has 17 TD is his first 41 games starting for the NYJ. UDFA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, lounap23 said: I don't have the rose colored glasses I had on for Sanchez when sanchez went 26/18 3rd year (TD/INT)id hoped he had climbed a level... that we might see a Vinny98 year or 2 in his career... 1st 2 years i practically cringed when he dropped back cos i was so uncertain what the hell would happen was at the 5 INT game v Buffalo when Jones ran for 200 and we lost in OT... Anyway... the INT yesterday ...against a better team, on the road.... when up 13-0... coulda been the point at whcih the geame changed. You cant just GIVE th other team horrible plays and the abll on your own 16..... even agianst Dallas the RZ INT kept them in teh game and we had to sweat it out... cant have the guy we sold the farm for keeping other teams in games we should be putting away. In these are games we WON! I wont even go into the tyre fire games. He has flaws. They need to be minimized/avoided... if POSSIBLE, eradicated. He can make plays. We've seen it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounap23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, Losmeister said: when sanchez went 26/18 3rd year (TD/INT)id hoped he had climbed a level... that we might see a Vinny98 year or 2 in his career... 1st 2 years i practically cringed when he dropped back cos i was so uncertain what the hell would happen was at the 5 INT game v Buffalo when Jones ran for 200 and we lost in OT... Anyway... the INT yesterday ...against a better team, on the road.... when up 13-0... coulda been the point at whcih the geame changed. You cant just GIVE th other team horrible plays and the abll on your own 16..... even agianst Dallas the RZ INT kept them in teh game and we had to sweat it out... cant have the guy we sold the farm for keeping other teams in games we should be putting away. In these are games we WON! I wont even go into the tyre fire games. He has flaws. They need to be minimized/avoided... if POSSIBLE, eradicated. He can make plays. We've seen it. First step in minimizing and avoiding these mistakes will be fixing the OL. Eradicating - well much like Brett Favre there won't be any eradicating but watching him yesterday throw a couple of balls away when he had time to try and force something was a good sign. It's a good sign he is learning an understanding it's ok to give up on a play. Fix the OL and continue that mental growth everything will fall into place. We have 6 more games this year to see if he continues that mental growth and an off-season to try and fix the OL. Hoping next season they will be at least a top half OLine, and praying hard a top 5 OL. They say Miracles can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, lounap23 said: We have 6 more games this year to see if he continues that mental growth and an off-season to try and fix the OL. Hoping next season they will be at least a top half OLine, and praying hard a top 5 OL. They say Miracles can happen. I'll add that Sam looked quite pissed off after he threw the INT.... i cant say that I have seen that before.... and i think its good. A leap to top 5 OL?? Wow. You're one hopeful mf'er!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounap23 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Losmeister said: I'll add that Sam looked quite pissed off after he threw the INT.... i cant say that I have seen that before.... and i think its good. A leap to top 5 OL?? Wow. You're one hopeful mf'er!! I am not hoping for that.. That's a miracle if it could happen... I would just like us to be consistently ranked 16th. Give Sam an average OL and he'll be just fine. For reference he looked great yesterday and the line was ranked 20th for the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, lounap23 said: I am not hoping for that.. That's a miracle if it could happen... I would just like us to be consistently ranked 16th. Give Sam an average OL and he'll be just fine. thats where i am at for the time being as well. "he'll be just fine..." i dont know. i am missouri. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Darnold IS doing fine. You can't have perfection for such a short period of playing time and to adversity with the injuries and illness's he's sustained. Improve the OL and add a #1 receiver and just picture how scary good this kid can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Robbie is a poor man’s Mike Wallace. For the past two years we’ve been hoping he learns to run better routes so he could utilize the entire route tree. He hasn’t. He does not muscle for the back shoulder throw, he runs one of the worst double moves I’ve seen (Stephen Hill is probably the only one worse), he rounds his comeback and slant routes so poorly that you can’t call any kind of timing throw to him. He has straight line speed, that’s all. If we had an OL that gives the QB time and a WR1 and WR2 that are good enough to warrant Safety attention Anderson would be a great weapon, just like Wallace was with Ward and Brown on the outside.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile appSo far since this post Robbie has been making me happily eat crow, keep it up kid!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Snell41 said: So far since this post Robbie has been making me happily eat crow, keep it up kid! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Robby's a good player. He's just not a superstar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Robby's a good player. He's just not a superstar. No, but credit where credit is due. He has run good routes today and fought for a ball no one would’ve blamed him for dropping. If he truly opens up the full route tree he rises to a top tier #2 in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Snell41 said: So far since this post Robbie has been making me happily eat crow, keep it up kid! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Robby has always been a good player. It’s Enunwa who sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 6:47 AM, Lon chaney said: I would put his value at more like 5-6 million personally. I don't love the guy either. But I really wish we had organization that knew how to use the actual talented players on the team the correct ways. Last time the Jets had a guy like Anderson who can take the top off ANY D, his name was Wesley Walker, a long time ago. Pay him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 3:16 PM, y2k8 said: Robbie has the tools but lacks the fighter's instinct to be a number 1 WR. He loses every battle for a ball, and way too often just doesn't even bother to come back to meet the pass. If you don't hit him in the hands, it's basically an incompletion. Very frustrating to watch. On 11/16/2019 at 5:33 PM, y2k8 said: Now show me one from this season. Go to the 2:10 mark. You're welcome. Great game by Sam and Robby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Go to the 2:10 mark. You're welcome. Great game by Sam and Robby That was such a ballsy play all around. Loved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Robby looked good today but can't have that kind of dumbass penalty on his part. One day it will cost the Jets something meaningful. He just showed today what he is....a solid WR, occasionally dynamic with improved route-running, immature and still not really a WR1 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Robby looked good today but can't have that kind of dumbass penalty on his part. One day it will cost the Jets something meaningful. He just showed today what he is....a solid WR, occasionally dynamic with improved route-running, immature and still not really a WR1 yet. never done it in his career.. does it up 31 pts. STFU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Robby's a good player. He's just not a superstar. He’d be an excellent second receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 even his biggest supporters NEVER SAY HE:S A #1 WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Losmeister said: never done it in his career.. does it up 31 pts. STFU That's not very kind of you. I certainly won't tell you to shut the f*ck up, but to each their own. The guy has had some immaturity issues. Not sure if you heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Robby, DT and Crowder, along with Griffen, are a solid, if unspectacular group of receivers. But taking them as a group, they give Sam a lot of options and they are getting it done. How much do you think Derek Carr wishes he was throwing to those guys today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: That's not very kind of you. I certainly won't tell you to shut the f*ck up, but to each their own. The guy has had some immaturity issues. Not sure if you heard. i will amend my STFU to a gimme an effin break. you and me are good, mostly so... good win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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