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7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Why is the team posting the fines for everyone to see seems a bit puzzling? Damian Woody is on twitter saying this is not common practice with nfl franchises

It is common from franchises with Gregg Williams

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4 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

It is common from franchises with Gregg Williams

Interesting. I did not know that. But isn’t Gregg Williams like 5th on the totem pole?   Shouldn’t people like GM Joe Douglas, HC Gase, owners, offensive coordinators be approving putting fines for a wide receiver on a big message board?

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21 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

We had something like this at my former place of employment. 

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Who cares if the team posts the fines.  We all paid for it in one way shape or form.  We should know every salary down to the water boy. TV contracts would not exist without the fans being shilled numerous Bud lights and crappy Hyundai's.  Oh and who could forget the Ford F150. Shaq and Dominos peddling the worst pizza on the planet.   The $14 dollar beers and $8 hot dogs.  The Tickets and all the Hats and Jerseys are sorry 9 to 6 jobs can buy.  We have to put it into perspective.  He is acting like a child.  Man up pay the fine and be quiet.

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48 minutes ago, adb280z said:

I hate that I'm actually on the Jets side here.  He had to take his wife out for Veteran's day lunch, why not take her to a nice dinner?

Seriously.  Is he doing rehab for 8 to 10 hours per day? Aren’t those the hours most of us schleps seem to work?  Take your wife out to dinner at 6 PM. Or, do something special at home on a weeknight and then take her out to a nice dinner on the weekend.  When you are on IR do you travel with the team to Washington? 

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5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Interesting. I did not know that. But isn’t Gregg Williams like 5th on the totem pole?   Shouldn’t people like GM Joe Douglas, HC Gase, owners, offensive coordinators be approving putting fines for a wide receiver on a big message board?

Not saying GW had anything to do with it... Gase may have picked it up from someone else... I am just saying this is something GW has done with the Defense... They also post positive and uplifting stats as well... This just looks bad because of how it came to light.

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Just now, jetscrazey said:

Quincy is just frustrated, but I do worry that this regime will get a bad reputation with players.

This. It’s like when then the media reports something  incorrectly and then retracts it a week later. The damage is done. 10% of people read the retraction and then assimilate it. 

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Just now, Skeptable said:

Not saying GW had anything to do with it... Gase may have picked it up from someone else... I am just saying this is something GW has done with the Defense... They also post positive and uplifting stats as well... This just looks bad because of how it came to light.

I am with you, man. Full transparency. You show the good and you show the bad. In my opinion this kind of stuff toughens people up and gets them to show their real priorities.  I was at work the day after my mothers funeral. If Quincy needs to treat Veterans Day like Christmas, then so be it. Communicate ahead of time and arrange training and rehab with the organization.  IMO, Quincy has already checked out. He’s getting a huge payday and I will put $100 on a bet that he never is on the field for another snap in the NFL again.

 One last thing. I am a very big Quincy Enunwa fan. Dude laid it all on the line every time he was on the field. But this just smells bad. 

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Wait, so he admitted that he knew he should have called ahead and skipped anyway?

It’s the prevailing attitude these days. Know the rules up front, break them when it suits you, and then bitch about it. I see it happen all the time in my multinational firm, and they would rather put up with it then remove the employee and face defending against wrongful termination. Expect that here, too. 

Unfortunately the Jets have issues surrounding medical this year. Otherwise he would look much worse. He threw his relationship with the team though under the bus though to save 28k. 

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This gives a hint to why Gase was so beloved by players in Miami. Incidentally what’s the deal with Falk’s injury grievance?

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1 hour ago, Skeptable said:

I gotta say... overall, I am happy that the majority JetNation actually sees this the correct way and that Quincy looks foolish... I thought there would be more screw the front office idiots running on this thread...

Agreed. The guy has gotten millions for not playing football. 

He's been hurt so it doesn't bother me but shut up about a fine when you have to do virtually nothing to collect a massive paycheck.

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Was Veteran's day an unforeseen emergency? No reason he couldn't have asked to be excused in advance.

Not calling in wastes the time of the medical/training staff who are expecting you to show up, so THEY can help YOU in recovering from your injury.

That's time they could be using to treat another injured player, which is now going unused.

Plus, you are being well paid to show up and get treatment.

Jeez, Quincy - you are not being hard done-by here.

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4 hours ago, Green Truth said:

No Quincy.  You were paid a lot of money.  Reschedule the food until you finish the treatment. and hire someone to take care of the emergency.  Rehab is your job right now.  You get paid to do it.

This.

I'm usually one to side with payer/ labor over management, but c'mon QE.

You had to take your wife to lunch, then miss the next day, don't contact the team until you feel like it. and then complain about a fine?

You're making 9 million. Show up for treatment. It's not a lot to ask of you.

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Not sure how anyone can side with QE here, but whatever. May have been said already, but isn't in his OWN best interest to show up for treatment? I mean.....?

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This feels like the very definition of the culture-change that the Jets have been seeking.

Quincy has been paid a fortune to play football, and if he can't be on the field, he needs to be where he is obligated to be including rehab sessions.  He showed disrespect by not bothering to ask permission, that's something he should have done.

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10 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

This.

I'm usually one to side with payer/ labor over management, but c'mon QE.

You had to take your wife to lunch, then miss the next day, don't contact the team until you feel like it. and then complain about a fine?

You're making 9 million. Show up for treatment. It's not a lot to ask of you.

This.

Feel free to pay me $9,000,000 for a week's worth of work and then dock me $28K.  To then go public with this?  Very selfish.  Not to mention, I'd bet this is an NFLPA rule, if player X doesn't follow procedure Y he gets fined Z.

SAR I

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57 minutes ago, Xtina said:

This gives a hint to why Gase was so beloved by players in Miami. Incidentally what’s the deal with Falk’s injury grievance?

This is GM stuff, this is management stuff, this isn't about anything on-field so it's not under the jurisdiction of Gase.  It's Douglas.  Osemele too.  This is Joe Douglas.  And I support it.  The Jets need a culture change and there is nothing good about a $9M player blowing off a few hours of rehab time without asking permission.

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I'm not sure who's right in this situation.  I can see the team's side, but I think the response was excessive.

That aside, I wonder how this is being viewed around the league, particularly by players that might be potential FAs?

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The Jets are probably right in this Enuwa situation , but this can’t look good to potential free agents,  who the Jets might be interested in adding to their roster.   This isn’t the first Jet player  , who has had a problem with the Jets organization this year .

The reputation of the Jets organization is at an all time low, and it probably just became so much more expensive to sign potential free agents this offseason.

Not to mention the Jets gave other teams who might be competing with the Jets for a Free agent , ammunition why they should sign with their team, and not the Jets.

 

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1 hour ago, mrcoops said:

Was Veteran's day an unforeseen emergency? No reason he couldn't have asked to be excused in advance.

Not calling in wastes the time of the medical/training staff who are expecting you to show up, so THEY can help YOU in recovering from your injury.

That's time they could be using to treat another injured player, which is now going unused.

Plus, you are being well paid to show up and get treatment.

Jeez, Quincy - you are not being hard done-by here.

I heard the emergency was the 8th because of basement flooding and just no showed... then he didn't come in Monday either for Veteran's day and that was because he had to 'have lunch' with his Vet wife...

Personally, even if I believed he was telling the truth,  the Jets are in the right here... It sounds as though he was hoping for leniency on the fines and not that he got fined... Airing such a petty thing makes him look bad...

I think that he may have went away for the weekend, maybe last second thing, and had 2 different excuses for each day. Just my opinion because those were his last 2 appointments from what I heard. Sure, cool, even if this is the case and its not like you are getting fired, you are getting fined x% of your salary or something like that... 

Quincy screwed up here and I am not sure he understands... Just like Jamal screwed up and kinda owned it and settled it.... KO and Falk I think are just trying to avoid having to use the Jets doctors at the Jets facility... There is good and bad to this... Forcing players to use team doctors allows information to stay in house and assures that the team knows the exact level of care they are getting... Going outside the organization means that the doctors can prescribe certain treatments that the NFL may not want them to use.. for various reasons. Pros and Cons to each... 

In the end this just may be very different for some of this locker room that has been coddled for so long that they simply don't like the change in operation and are now speaking out against the change...

Point is that a lot of this is getting leaked from one side... there is more to the story...

Overall:

Jets need a new PR team... they got to realize that they have to start spinning these takes just for the sake of the embarrassment of the franchise... Whether true or not... Allowing these beat reporters to get this much power is unacceptable for a corporation as big as this Franchise.

 

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Well, I don't have any sympathy for him? I think he's a snowflake. He thinks he's above it all. If he genuinely had goodness in his heart, he would have done the right thing and called PRIOR to his scheduled treatment. And honestly, if he's 50/50 on ever playing again? Why haven't the Jets already cut him and moved on?

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4 hours ago, SAR I said:

This.

Feel free to pay me $9,000,000 for a week's worth of work and then dock me $28K.  To then go public with this?  Very selfish.  Not to mention, I'd bet this is an NFLPA rule, if player X doesn't follow procedure Y he gets fined Z.

SAR I

There is a difference between rules and principles 

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Enunwa seems completely in the wrong here, could have easily got this sorted with the organisation prior to this.

That said there is no way this treatment of players isn't becoming an issue behind the scenes. These guys will back each other regardless and this is the third incident of players complaining. Not a good look.

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It looks ugly for sure. But, that being said Enunwa admits he didn’t contact the team until after he missed those days and then he airs it out online? 
 

I think this is a JD zero tolerance thing.

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He took his wife out with the money the JETS paid him...  The emergency was his safe full of money the JETS paid him was jammed...  I have a feeling this crap has been going on for a while with many players that GOT PAID!   It's part of the culture change that needs to take place.  The team may have had specialist there to treat him and he doesn't show TWICE!

Do you think the Patriots would stand for that?  I side with the Jets here.  

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10 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

 

 

 

I don't know who is responsible for all of these medical issues becoming messy but this is a real bad look, especially when it seems to keep happening.

Maybe, juuuuuuuuuuuuuust maybe, those Dolphin players had a point regarding Gase. I heard that Drake said that if Gase returned he wanted to be traded

 

I mean, former players like Jarvis Landry and Mike Pouncey both applauded when Gase was fired, and by that time they weren't even Dolphin players. 

This is Chris Johnson's fault. Terrible ownership.

 

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