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Our two best dlineman are this guy, a 6th round pick and phillips and udfa.  McClendon has been good too a value fa.

I think the ghost Sam is seeing is our third overall pick in the draft.

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7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Our two best dlineman are this guy, a 6th round pick and phillips and udfa.  McClendon has been good too a value fa.

I think the ghost Sam is seeing is our third overall pick in the draft.

It's easy to see now the pick should have been Josh Allen, this team needed an edge pass rusher. But, what's done is done & I still think QW is gonna be a bad, bad boy with more experience & some weight room work. 

When everyone's healthy next year this will be one of the strongest teams defensively up the middle. Deep DT rotation, really good solid LB core led by CJ Mosely & probably Avery being kept. Then you have the 2 solid safeties in Adams + Maye. They need to resign Poole, hope Bless Austin is the real deal, find another CB, and pass rusher & they really could have something here. We're going to see a lot of assets moved to the offensive side of the ball starting in this offseason. 

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1 hour ago, Jetster said:

It's easy to see now the pick should have been Josh Allen, this team needed an edge pass rusher. But, what's done is done & I still think QW is gonna be a bad, bad boy with more experience & some weight room work. 

When everyone's healthy next year this will be one of the strongest teams defensively up the middle. Deep DT rotation, really good solid LB core led by CJ Mosely & probably Avery being kept. Then you have the 2 solid safeties in Adams + Maye. They need to resign Poole, hope Bless Austin is the real deal, find another CB, and pass rusher & they really could have something here. We're going to see a lot of assets moved to the offensive side of the ball starting in this offseason. 

The thing is; at the 3rd pick, you should already be a bad, bad boy in the NFL. This wasn’t someone that should have to be developed to any significant degree.  This is why his productivity is distressing to everyone.

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3 hours ago, Mark78 said:

The thing is; at the 3rd pick, you should already be a bad, bad boy in the NFL. This wasn’t someone that should have to be developed to any significant degree.  This is why his productivity is distressing to everyone.

It takes time for a young guy to learn how to play inside in the NFL. Huge step up from college. Go look at players like Warren Sapps 1st year. A lot of tricks to the trade these guys need to learn I'm sure McClendon is helping him along the way. He hurt his ankle right out the gate too & anyone who has suffered a bad ankle sprain knows it's not easy to push off but QW hasn't made any excuses. His upside is way higher than Leo because his get off & low base power is much more explosive. Not every 1st round pick shows up & balls out in the NFL. You guys would have thrown Vinnie Testeverde in the trash can but loved him years later. 

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Josh Allen opposite Jordan Jenkins with Mosley, Williamson/Hewitt would have the Jets set at LB with CB being the only glaring need on D. Full focus would be on the O in the Draft and FA.

But the NFL is a passing league. And, who are the two main participants in a completed pass? The QB and WR. We still need the edge rusher to get to the QB and a CB to cover the WR.

Josh Allen could have helped a likely 3 year rebuild be more like a 2 year one. 

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6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Josh Allen opposite Jordan Jenkins with Mosley, Williamson/Hewitt would have the Jets set at LB with CB being the only glaring need on D. Full focus would be on the O in the Draft and FA.

But the NFL is a passing league. And, who are the two main participants in a completed pass? The QB and WR. We still need the edge rusher to get to the QB and a CB to cover the WR.

Josh Allen could have helped a likely 3 year rebuild be more like a 2 year one. 

I’m hoping we can move Q Williams for a late first. He’s totally not required here.

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It takes time for a young guy to learn how to play inside in the NFL. Huge step up from college. Go look at players like Warren Sapps 1st year. A lot of tricks to the trade these guys need to learn I'm sure McClendon is helping him along the way. He hurt his ankle right out the gate too & anyone who has suffered a bad ankle sprain knows it's not easy to push off but QW hasn't made any excuses. His upside is way higher than Leo because his get off & low base power is much more explosive. Not every 1st round pick shows up & balls out in the NFL. You guys would have thrown Vinnie Testeverde in the trash can but loved him years later. 

Sapp - 3 sacks in 16 games his rookie year.

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