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Highly encouraged by what I’m seeing from Gase

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Gase sucks. The sooner everyone accepts this, the quicker we can get on to the next coach who is going to ruin Darnold. 

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3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

 

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Remember when Evil Adam Gase whom everyone in the locker room hated because he was inflexible and arrogant was killing Sam Darnold. <lights corn cob pipe> Well, son, I remember

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3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Darnold is a smart kid. This is the least surprising news ever. Gase has always been in over his head. 

Firmly explains the rollouts and bootlegs yesterday. Those were like momentum boosters to each drive they hit on one. Darnold on the run is highly highly effective and Darnold knows this.

Good on him for walking into his office and telling him this sh*t ain’t working and we need to change some things if you want the best out of me. 

He isnt Peyton Manning. Don’t ask Sam Darnold to be a statue behind the worst OL in the world.

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46 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

The Giants and Redskins are awful football teams.

We'll see how the team looks against the Raiders.

Yeah, so are we, we are so awful we rightfully fired our GM. We have a safety and a young QB and an old RB, and nothing else. No line, weak WRs, no pass rush, no corners, we suck. 

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1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

It only took him half the season to figure out he needed to change sh*t. 

But, injuries.

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8 minutes ago, FireTheJohnsons said:

Yeah, so are we, we are so awful we rightfully fired our GM. We have a safety and a young QB and an old RB, and nothing else. No line, weak WRs, no pass rush, no corners, we suck. 

All of that is irrelevant in regards to whether or not the team is improving under Gase. Go play a good game against a team like the Raiders who is better.

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1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

It only took him half the season to figure out he needed to change sh*t. 

some coaches never figure it out, so perhaps this is progress...

 

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40 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

Funny how much better things look without Kalil and Beachum back anchoring the left tackle spot.

If Gase played Lewis, Harrison and Compton sooner the Jets are probably 4-6, maybe 5-5. 

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26 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Name calling. Nice. You’re a classy fellow. 

Beating the Cowboys without half of their offense? Not that impressive. Go out and beat the Ravens or the Raiders or the Steelers or the Bills the next few weeks? Okay sure. But let’s not pretend the goal of this season was 6-10 and a bottom third offense. 

The Ravens? LOL! They just beat the snot out of team that Bill Obrien has been building with Watson for 4 years now! Watsons WR is Deondre Hopkins. Some people think the Ravens are the best team in the league right now & that's how you'll judge the HC? This season is about 2 things, Sam Darnold & finding out who stays & who goes, period. 

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25 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Remember when Evil Adam Gase whom everyone in the locker room hated because he was inflexible and arrogant was killing Sam Darnold. <lights corn cob pipe> Well, son, I remember

Pepperidge Farm remembers. 

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11 minutes ago, talonmm said:

some coaches never figure it out, so perhaps this is progress...

 

Or it just bad teams they’re playing against 

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4 minutes ago, Jetster said:

The Ravens? LOL! They just beat the snot out of team that Bill Obrien has been building with Watson for 4 years now! Watsons WR is Deondre Hopkins. Some people think the Ravens are the best team in the league right now & that's how you'll judge the HC? This season is about 2 things, Sam Darnold & finding out who stays & who goes, period. 

So, they are allowed to be humiliated by the Ravens?  I understand being overmatched, but they can't have another sh*tshow like the Patriots game.  

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So our offensive genius needed his second-year, 23-year-old QB to tell him how to run an NFL offense.

 

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2 hours ago, Y3k said:

More big packages 

Two TE sets

play action 

trick plays 

he’s definitely evolving 

i like it 

Yeah, he could be awesome if we played the Giants and Skins for the rest of the season. 

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Let's not get carried away here. Two wins against sh*tty teams don't a season make. Let's see how they do against the Raiders before we make Gase Mayor.

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1 minute ago, JetFaninMI said:

Let's not get carried away here. Two wins against sh*tty teams don't a season make. Let's see how they do against the Raiders before we make Gase Mayor.

The Raiders pass D sucks. 

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It's kind of like getting your ass kicked at school on a regular basis and then going out to the schoolyard and beating the crap out of the smallest kid you can find.  You feel pretty good about yourself afterwards.

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4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

The Raiders pass D sucks. 

So does the Jets. Chucky is a better HC than Gase, not by much, but he is better. Close game but I think the Raiders pull it out.

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It seems like everything adam gase tried to do was awful.  Darnold had to tell him what to do with the offense.  Injuries forced him to play olinemen that are better then the ones he wanted in there.

Adam Gase, just get the he!! out of the way.

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It's crazy.

People kill gase for not adjusting to his players strengths. 

People kill gase for listening to his QB and adjusting to his players strengths.

People constantly posting about how the jets have the worse OL in history, worst CBs in history, worst pass rush in history. And how the team has a sub 500 roster.

But somehow, in his first season with the team and a QB hes only played like 6 games with, and a roster he had very little to do with building he should have a winning record.

I love Jets fans. Lol

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Playing the worst teams in a football helps but he’s clearly adjusted his play calling/scheme and that is encouraging 

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Let’s be clear about one thing 

The redskins offense sucks 

Their defense is good 

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2 hours ago, Jetster said:

They already did moron, that team was the Dallas Cowboys, oh, but, but, they had injuries & were missing players, cry me a f*cking river! No team in the NFL has had more bad luck with injuries & illness than this NY Jet team! Period! 

Make your point without insults, that isn't cool.

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I love all the the jets won against bad teams . This The same jets who lost to Miami we are one of those bad teams. Winning games vs bad teams is actually progress imo .

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1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

Firmly explains the rollouts and bootlegs yesterday. Those were like momentum boosters to each drive they hit on one. Darnold on the run is highly highly effective and Darnold knows this.

Good on him for walking into his office and telling him this sh*t ain’t working and we need to change some things if you want the best out of me. 

He isnt Peyton Manning. Don’t ask Sam Darnold to be a statue behind the worst OL in the world.

You do recognize why this is though, no?  The roll out typically comes after play action which hopefully freezes the defense, and then, by moving to one side, it cuts the field in half, effectively removing defenders he has to worry about, and minimizing his need to make decisions.  For the most part, he can focus on one pass catcher and one defender.  While this may improve his ability to make plays, it ought to be concerning that he needs this simplification to succeed.  While anyone can recognize the problems of our line, Darnold needs to be able to understand a defense in full, and find the open man, if he’s going to succeed long term.

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A 7-9 finish in spite of all of the circumstances this team has faced would probably be the best coaching performance we’ve had since Rex 2010. The majority of the “starters” are 2nd and 3rd stringers. 

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1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

 

Yes. Without their two top receivers and half of their offensive line. Dallas in a rematch would roll. Also, what happened after that Dallas game? Did the coach take that momentum and run with it? Or did he crap the bed the next few weeks?

That's a silly argument.  What about the Jets without, arguably, their two best offensive weapons...their best defensive player and an awful lot of other injuries, including their offensive line.

You can't give other team excuses for injuries but not the Jets.

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3 hours ago, New York Mick said:

It only took him half the season to figure out he needed to change sh*t. 

Or half a season for the OL to protect long enough for thee plays to develop and open up and be called 

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3 hours ago, New York Mick said:

It only took him half the season to figure out he needed to change sh*t. 

same could be said about McVay this season, and everyone is absolutely in love with him. 

 

Not defending gase, or panning McVay, but sometimes we fans dont see the big picture going on. 

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Time will tell. 

As our Owner made clear, Gase will be our coach even if we now finish 3-13 this year, so no point making any definitive statements now.

We'll see where we are this time next year.  And the year after that, most likely.  We all know who would have kept him, and who wouldn't.  Time will prove those groups right (or wrong), respectively.

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27 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Or half a season for the OL to protect long enough for thee plays to develop and open up and be called 

Is there much in the way of similarity between the O-line starters yesterday and those of opening day?

Seems like most of the line now playing better are not the players in those spots on opening day.

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6 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

same could be said about McVay this season, and everyone is absolutely in love with him. 

 

Not defending gase, or panning McVay, but sometimes we fans dont see the big picture going on. 

McVay as HC has a winning record and playoffs Gase not so much. 

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3 hours ago, TeddEY said:

It's almost like coaching appears better when you play worse teams, and worse when you play better teams.

Except we lost to the Dolphins and we are not as talent-less as that team. 

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2 hours ago, maury77 said:

If you have a subscription to the Athletic, there is an article on this topic today. Basically, Darnold took ownership of the offense 3 weeks ago, told Gase to take certain plays out and emphasize other plays more often. As of 3 weeks ago, the offense has noticeably improved. 

Yes, and Bell said something like "Darnold became a man" this week and took it to the next level or something like that. It is definitely encouraging. Plus we are also seeing great improvement in some of the young defensive players, and Austin looks every bit like a first round talent at CB. Small sample size sure, but in his 1.5 games he has looked like a pro bowl QB and the secondary has been completely different.

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