What is your confidence level that Sam Darnold is the Jets long-term Franchise QB?

[jetstream23]

Do we have our guy?

[Butterfield]

Maybe

[Warfish]

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Not sure. It's been a mix of good games and bad games. Still too many mistakes to know if he can be the answer.

With that said, I fully expect him getting 2020 and 2021 to show us.  Rightfully so, given the investment in him.

With that said, I wouldn't object to a mid-round pick being used on a young backup QB we could also develop while we wait and see.  Nothing too high, those picks need to go to building around Sam.  But a 4th or so is worth the risk if the right QB is there.  

[New York Mick]

Not sure. I think if he has a good oline he’ll be a solid QB. He just needs to fix some mental mistakes and throwing off his back foot. I’m hoping they find a coach that can sort him out. 

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

With that said, I fully expect him getting 2020 and 2021 to show us.  Rightfully so, given the investment in him.

With that said, I wouldn't object to a mid-round pick being used on a young backup QB we could also develop while we wait and see.  Nothing too high, those picks need to go to building around Sam.  But a 4th or so is worth the risk if the right QB is there.  

If we can't develop a talent like Sam Darnold how do you think the Jets could accurately identify a 4th round type guy to develop into something better than Sam?

[Spoot-Face]

Almost voted "not confident" but that'd be more because I have no confidence in this organization to give us anything good.

[BigRy56]

He’ll be here for 10 years

[jetstream23]

[ScarletKnight89]

I'm confident that he is going to be a good QB in this league for a long time. The jury is still out on whether he can be elite IMO. 

[C Mart]

No doubt! 

He’ll always make a dumb play, like Favre, but as he gains more experience I expect those to lessen. 

But he’s the real deal. 

[joewilly12]

[carlito1171]

I'm not sure......I used to think he could develop into that guy for us....but I'm not sure.....not saying that I lost all belief in him, but  IDK if the couple of stupid decisions he makes a game can be coached out of him

 

If it can he'll be fine...

[King P]

"Not sure. It's been a mix of good games and bad games. Still too many mistakes to know if he can be the answer."

That's my answer right now. Jury still out. I'm more than willing to give him more time and see how he progresses with more experience and more weapons.

Ideally, I'm hoping he's able to cut down on the turnovers. But even if he doesn't and goes the way of a Jameis Winston (where he can win you a game with his arm as well as lose you a game, and you just have to accept the bad with the good) then I can live with that *shrug*

[Untouchable]

15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

LOL

You wanted us to “Tank for Tua” like two weeks ago.

[Mike135]

My confidence in Sam is only limited by my trust the Jets will build at least an NFL caliber oline over the next 3 years.

So 50/50.

 

[TuscanyTile2]

I’m between “pretty sure” and “very confident”. I voted “pretty sure” for the purposes of this poll though 

[Warfish]

20 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

If we can't develop a talent like Sam Darnold how do you think the Jets could accurately identify at 4th round type guy to develop into something better than Sam?

This is a self-defeating argument, as it leads to a logical endpoint of "stop trying".

You always have to keep trying.

If we fail to develop Sam (we shouldn't have to develop a #1 pick QB btw, they're supposed to be "get experience, get great" if they're legit), it could mean many things.  That Sam was never that great to start.  That we faikled to "develop" him.  That we failed to support him with talent around him, O-line, etc.

You still have to field a team, and try again, and have a backup QB.  I am not comfortable going into future years with Seimian and Fales.  

So I'd use a mid-round pick IF an appropriate developmental QB prospect were available.  i.e. O-line in the first (Franchise Tackle?), O-line in the second (Center?), WR in the Third, O-Line in the Third, Backup QB in the Fourth, BAP/Whatever the rest of the way. 

Add another WR in Free Agency, and I'd be ok with that kind of draft this year.  It would be foundational (the kind of draft we SHOULD have had the year before we picked Darnold, lol).  Better not screw it up tho....

[joewilly12]

52 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

LOL

You wanted us to “Tank for Tua” like two weeks ago.

Not me, you have me confused with someone else. 

I have never ever used the word tank when discussing the NY Jets and if we replace Sam Darnold which I doubt we will or have to I would choose Joe Burrow. 

Weren't you saying we would finish 1-15 a few weeks ago. 

@Untouchable  post the proof that I said that or else a lie. 

 

[Barry McCockinner]

Less confident than I was pre-season. Too many dumbass plays so far this year. He seems to be good from a clean pocket but has a lot of brain farts under duress. 

[Ghost420]

13 minutes ago, King P said:

"Not sure. It's been a mix of good games and bad games. Still too many mistakes to know if he can be the answer."

That's my answer right now. Jury still out. I'm more than willing to give him more time and see how he progresses with more experience and more weapons.

Ideally, I'm hoping he's able to cut down on the turnovers. But even if he doesn't and goes the way of a Jameis Winston (where he can win you a game with his arm as well as lose you a game, and you just have to accept the bad with the good) then I can live with that *shrug*

If he is playing like Jameis in his 5h season then we will be looking for another  qb.

[funaz]

Where is the He sucks so bad and we need to draft a new QB option? 

 

You guys are all crazy if you have ANY confidence that this guy is anything more than a JAG. 

[HawkeyeJet]

What I would be more interested to read is what everyone defines a Franchise QB as.  I think that likely differs a great deal from poster to poster.

At this point in time, I think Darnold is the best QB the Jets have had since Vinny.  

I guess my definition is can the Jets win a Superbowl with him?  I think they can, but not with this roster.  I don't think anyone could with this roster.  Some would probably say MVP level is their definition.  I don't know if he'll ever get to that level.  Physically he could, mentally he'd have to grow a lot.

 

[Bowles Movement]

I saw a long throw yesterday for a TD that gave me goosebumps and reminded me of Namath.  He has the arm talent and work ethic to be successful.  Im comfortable that with experience and better protection and better supporting cast he will be a top ten QB.  As far as top 5 , I think we need to see how he continues to play this year and next, but I think he will be our guy for the next 10-15 yrs

[The Crimson King]

It would be interesting to see the same poll halfway through Sanchez' second season

I'd like to see Darnold be successful throwing long in a large enough sample to be meaningful. Also we haven't seen his ability to engineer comebacks against good teams in crunch time

I'm hoping this is the guy but in all honesty, the trial has just begun

[The Gooch]

Have to see more!!!

[King P]

13 minutes ago, Ghost420 said:

If he is playing like Jameis in his 5h season then we will be looking for another  qb.

I only brought up Winston as an example because I only partially agree with the option that I chose. I picked it for the "he's had a mix of good games and bad games" not for the "too many mistakes" because there are QBs that will just always make alot of mistakes because that's their nature. Gunslinger QBs will always exists, so if you get one that makes alot of mistakes but also makes alot of great plays, sometimes you have to accept the good with the bad

[The Crusher]

If we can find out a way to only play bad teams that can't pressure the QB he's already pretty sweet.  

[Mogglez]

25 minutes ago, funaz said:

Where is the He sucks so bad and we need to draft a new QB option? 

 

You guys are all crazy if you have ANY confidence that this guy is anything more than a JAG. 

I'm pretty close to going to the archived version of Jetsinsider and copy/pasting the posts of you rimming Sanchez until your tongue was Hershey's brown just to get you to shut the f*ck up.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

10 minutes ago, The Crimson King said:

It would be interesting to see the same poll halfway through Sanchez' second season

I'd like to see Darnold be successful throwing long in a large enough sample to be meaningful. Also we haven't seen his ability to engineer comebacks against good teams in crunch time

I'm hoping this is the guy but in all honesty, the trial has just begun

The Jets tried to HIDE Sanchez from Day 1 and win in spite of him.  They knew probably quickly that he was overdrafted, way too many holes in his game to fix.  

The second that he was asked to put the team on his shoulders due to Mangini’s guys falling off the roster and never being replaced....ALL the wheels on the Jet car fell off simultaneously.

Darnold will have no problem leading this team. Just a shame you couldn’t see how Darnold would have played with the exact same personnel Sanchez had his first 2 years.

[Mogglez]

38 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

LOL

You wanted us to “Tank for Tua” like two weeks ago.

He's denying it but let it be known that this is 100% true.

[Losmeister]

54 minutes ago, King P said:

goes the way of a Jameis Winston (where he can win you a game with his arm as well as lose you a game, and you just have to accept the bad with the good) then I can live with that *shrug*

If he is a turnover machine like Jameis Winston...    you...   "shrug."?????

smh

maybe i am misinterpreting...?   

[Untouchable]

46 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Not me, you have me confused with someone else. 

I have never ever used the word tank when discussing the NY Jets and if we replace Sam Darnold which I doubt we will or have to I would choose Joe Burrow. 

Weren't you saying we would finish 1-15 a few weeks ago. 

 

You said this like 9 days ago lol

But now you’re totally sold on Darnold?

And I never said we’d finish 1-15. I said it would’ve taken a 1-15 type of year for Gase to be fired.

[thshadow]

It's definitely an excuse if anyone on the team says it, but from a fan's point of view, I do think it's hard(er) to evaluate him with his current supporting cast.

That said, I put "pretty sure", and I'd echo Barry in that I'm less confident than I was when the year started.  Those totally bone-headed throws - which AFAICT mainly started with the NE game? - are very disheartening.  I'm hoping - though not totally confident - that he's just trying to play hero-ball, and that more experience + a better surrounding cast will allow him to eliminate those.

 

[joewilly12]

14 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He's denying it but let it be known that this is 100% true.

Golly gee look who chimes in on the lies... most likely the kid who was picked on his entire life. 

I said IF Sam DArnold continues to struggle and doesn't show improvement like winning games we might have to consider another QB in the draft and I like Joe Burrow NOT Tua.................

[Mogglez]

3 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

You said this like 9 days ago lol

But now you’re totally sold on Darnold?

And I never said we’d finish 1-15. I said it would’ve taken a 1-15 type of year for Gase to be fired.

Also this was his suggestion if we get a top 2 pick: