Sam Darnold on Redskins game & reports he talked to Gase about the offense

[Patriot Killa]

 

[Lupz27]

Man I miss the printed word.

[jetsons]

1 hour ago, Lupz27 said:

Man I miss the printed word.

https://theathletic.com/1385992/2019/11/17/a-meeting-of-the-minds-between-sam-darnold-and-adam-gase-has-helped-the-jets-gain-some-footing/

LANDOVER, Md — Sam Darnold burst into Adam Gase’s office three weeks ago, cheeks beet red. He had something he needed to say, but he wasn’t sure how to express it or how it would be received.

The Jets were losing, and Darnold was struggling. This offense, supposedly coached in the direction football was going, was stuck in reverse. Darnold had enough and had kept quiet far too long. So he sat his coach down. He requested they go over the playbook.

Darnold told Gase precisely what he liked, then what he didn’t. He went over the plays and concepts he felt his teammates ran effectively and those they needed to throw out. He was open. He was honest. And when he was done, he looked like a kid who stood up to his Dad for the first time.

Gase, seated across the desk, smiled at his 22-year-old quarterback.

“It’s about damn time,” he said.

The Jets are 2-1 since that meeting, highlighted by Sunday’s 34-17 beatdown of the Redskins. Their record now sits at a not as embarrassing 3-7.

But more importantly, Gase’s scheme is evolving into Darnold’s offense.

The Jets’ first-year coach always had an open door policy with Darnold (and all players). The two talk weekly about game plans, schemes and tendencies. But through the first portion of the season, Gase did most of the talking. He explained to Darnold what he wanted. He explained to Darnold how plays were designed to work. It was him, and mostly him, doing the leg work.

Darnold sat there.

And Darnold listened.

It wasn’t yet time for him to speak.

Unlike so many young quarterbacks who experience legitimate jumps in their second seasons, Darnold didn’t have the luxury of continuing his rookie year development. Not exactly, at least. The Jets fired Jeremy Bates, the one tasked with overseeing Darnold’s development during his rookie season, when they let go of Todd Bowles. So instead of building, Darnold hit reset once the Jets hired Gase.

A new playbook. New calls. New line adjustments. A new way of doing things.

Back to Square 1.

While 13 starts as a rookie gave Darnold somewhat of a running start, there was going to be a learning curve. Expectedly. But unfortunately for Darnold, his development came to a halt with his mononucleosis diagnosis in September. Those four weeks and three games missed stunted his growth within Gase’s scheme. It was tough for Darnold to speak up and critique when he was still figuring out what he needed to do.

So he just listened.

As much as Gase wanted Darnold to speak up, Gase couldn’t force him. Gase needed him to get there in his own time. The moment Darnold walked into Gase’s office, it signaled they’d crossed that significant point. Now, instead of teaching, they could build and sculpt.

Darnold returned from mono against the Cowboys on Oct. 13. He then quarterbacked the Jets against the Patriots and Jaguars. He completed 55 of 94 passes (58.51 percent) for 642 yards with four touchdowns, eight interceptions and a quarterback rating of 58.0. The Jets went 1-2.

In his past three games against the Dolphins, Giants and Redskins, Darnold completed 65 of 99 passes (65 percent) for 783 yards with six touchdowns through the air, one on the ground, two interceptions and a quarterback rating of 101.54. The Jets are 2-1.

“You can tell he’s feeling more comfortable,” Gase said. “He knows what he likes, knows what he doesn’t like, and he’s not afraid to say it. He’s taking more control of everything. On the field, off the field, in the meeting rooms, in film study and in practice.

“Any time your quarterback gets like that, that’s a good thing for us.”

Darnold reached his performance crescendo against the Redskins, becoming the youngest quarterback in team history to throw four touchdowns in a game. He completed 19-of-30 passes for 293 yards. His lone mistake: a boneheaded interception on a pass he sailed high for Ty Montgomery on a screen.

With the offense tailored more toward Darnold’s strengths, the quarterback’s footwork improved. Gase drew up a slew of bootleg passes to get Darnold on the move. He called quick passes to set the tempo. Darnold moved from within the pocket to stave off Redskin defenders and buy his receivers extra time. He extended the play, then improvised with reserve tight end Daniel Brown for a first-quarter score. He did the same later in the game for a 45-yard hookup with another tight end, Ryan Griffin.

The Jets offense set season highs with 400 yards and 34 points scored. They eclipsed 100 yards rushing for the first time, gained 23 first downs and converted 42 percent of their third downs.

“When he was sick, it was tough,” said Griffin, who caught five passes for 109 yards. “It’s coming around now and we’re getting it down at the right time.”

Context is everything. As good as Darnold has looked the past two games, he did so against teams with a combined record of 3-17. New York’s schedule gets a bit tougher from here. Next week, the Jets host the Raiders, who, after beating the Bengals, are a surprising 6-4. Then it’s the cruddy Dolphins, followed by winless Cincinnati, then the Steelers (5-5), Ravens (8-2) and Bills (7-3).

Darnold must continue trending upward against the stiffer competition. That will be the real tell. Even the harshest of Gase’s critics might just start to believe if the Jets upset the Raiders at MetLife.

Either way, a few short weeks ago, that slate seemed daunting. Now, because of Darnold’s play, the outlook seems entirely different.

And it all started when he walked into Gase’s office.

“I think the whole offense is really getting a feel for the offense,” Darnold said. “I think, just getting in that rhythm and being able to understand exactly what’s going on out there really allows us to play a lot faster.

“We’re just playing with a lot better rhythm, but I think it’s on us to go out there and execute, and I think we’ve been doing that the past couple of weeks.”

[Lupz27]

4 hours ago, jetsons said:

Now, instead of teaching, they could build and sculpt.

This This This This right here I Hope is exactly where Darnold and Gase are at now like Payton and Brees, build it together from the ground up, and expanding every week, year, and hopefully decade together building the offensive playbook/concepts/schemes as one.

 

Also hella thanks for posting the printed word version.

[Lupz27]

4 hours ago, jetsons said:

In his past three games against the Dolphins, Giants and Redskins

This has to make you take the last 3 weeks with a grain of salt, and I’m one of the biggest Darnold guys out there.

[dbatesman]

4 hours ago, jetsons said:

LANDOVER, Md — Sam Darnold burst into Adam Gase’s office three weeks ago, cheeks beet red. He had something he needed to say, but he wasn’t sure how to express it or how it would be received.

The Jets were losing, and Darnold was struggling. This offense, supposedly coached in the direction football was going, was stuck in reverse. Darnold had enough and had kept quiet far too long. So he sat his coach down. He requested they go over the playbook.

Darnold told Gase precisely what he liked, then what he didn’t. He went over the plays and concepts he felt his teammates ran effectively and those they needed to throw out. He was open. He was honest. And when he was done, he looked like a kid who stood up to his Dad for the first time.
 
Gase, seated across the desk, smiled at his 22-year-old quarterback.

“It’s about damn time,” he said.

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[varjet]

The Gase Process/Method is not inspiring. 

He should be a permanent OC. He needs a boss. 

[Patriot Killa]

12 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

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Lol this isn’t even what Darnold said in the video. It pays to watch it.

the article is bullsh*t according to Sam.

[Integrity28]

5 hours ago, jetsons said:

Gase, seated across the desk, smiled at his 22-year-old quarterback.

“It’s about damn time,” he said.

Ugh.

Ugh. 

If this doesn’t reek like some in-over-his-head manager setting up the narrative that he orchestrated all of this... Not gonna lie, Gase hits all my triggers in terms of sh*tty, smarmy “take-credit” leadership tactics. Reminds me far too much of guys I’ve work for. 

[Integrity28]

Gotta hope Sam’s talent can carry Gase, I guess. Like Peyton. Cause Gase’s ability to manipulate optics for his bosses seems strong.

[Ohhthepain]

5 hours ago, jetsons said:

With the offense tailored more toward Darnold’s strengths, the quarterback’s footwork improved. Gase drew up a slew of bootleg passes to get Darnold on the move. He called quick passes to set the tempo. Darnold moved from within the pocket to stave off Redskin defenders and buy his receivers extra time. He extended the play, then improvised with reserve tight end Daniel Brown for a first-quarter score.

Inject this into my veins. This is what we wanted from day one, an offense tailored towards Darnolds strengths.

[New York Mick]

Let’s see how it goes when they’re not playing the worst teams in the NFL. 

[Sonny Werblin]

Q:   Hey Sam what do you think of the Jetnation fan forum?

A:    Super bunch of guys. Really knowledgeable. They're a really important part of the fan base. I really enjoy everything they do over there. Very well run fan site. Good guys.

 

... And this is why Sam is the total package. He will NEVER say a cross word about anyone, and will not allow any outside noise to interfere with his efforts to be the best QB he can be.  His interviews are as boring as Derek Jeters, who was the king of saying nothing when interviewed. Let the wannabe stars give the soundbite quotes, the truly great players do all of their talking with their play on the field.

[Butterfield]

7 hours ago, Lupz27 said:

Man I miss the printed word.

You aren’t alone.  I never watch the videos.

[carlito1171]

5 hours ago, jetsons said:

“It’s about damn time,” he said.

I need my QB to tell me what to call for him because I am blind and can't see what his strengths and weaknesses are on film......

Genius HC 

[greenwave81]

12 minutes ago, Butterfield said:

You aren’t alone.  I never watch the videos.

Me neither. But in this case I did, and let’s just say the writer took certain liberties to say the least, and not sure that’s how it all went down after listening to Sam

[Stark]

45 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Ugh.

Ugh. 

If this doesn’t reek like some in-over-his-head manager setting up the narrative that he orchestrated all of this... Not gonna lie, Gase hits all my triggers in terms of sh*tty, smarmy “take-credit” leadership tactics. Reminds me far too much of guys I’ve work for. 

its like how you played teh mafia.... lol

I agree. I interpreted it similarly. Gase going to use each circumstance to "his" advantage and play it as his plan from the beginning. 

[ChuckkieB]

Darnold is maturing and growing as a QB and starting to take control of the offense and make it his own.  The fact that Gase seems to be willing to let Darnold have his say and mold the offense to his liking is a great sign.  This is EXACTLY what we the fans have been waiting for.  Let's carry this momentum the rest of the season and come out guns blazing next year!

[Barry McCockinner]

 

[Patriot Killa]

2 hours ago, greenwave81 said:

Me neither. But in this case I did, and let’s just say the writer took certain liberties to say the least, and not sure that’s how it all went down after listening to Sam

Exactly my point. Darnold disputes most of the unnecessary filler in the article. 

The video is Sam, himself. 

Its not that hard to click the button and watch.

[Apache 51]

Redskins? Do we play them again? Game over, next!

[Beerfish]

Oh yes, this was all some kid of mad evil genius plan by Adam Gase to get the most out of his QB.

What a load of baloney or bologna if you prefer.

[The Crusher]

3 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Ugh.

Ugh. 

If this doesn’t reek like some in-over-his-head manager setting up the narrative that he orchestrated all of this... Not gonna lie, Gase hits all my triggers in terms of sh*tty, smarmy “take-credit” leadership tactics. Reminds me far too much of guys I’ve work for. 

 

[pdxgreen]

 

13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

 

[freestater]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Oh yes, this was all some kid of mad evil genius plan by Adam Gase to get the most out of his QB.

What a load of baloney or bologna if you prefer.

?My baloney has a first name,

It's A-D-A-M...

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, Stark said:

its like how you played teh mafia.... lol

I agree. I interpreted it similarly. Gase going to use each circumstance to "his" advantage and play it as his plan from the beginning. 

It is, actually, but that was a running joke. This is just a huge red flag.

[jetstream23]

I'm pretty sure he didn't burst into the office with a beet red face and tell Gase how to run the offense.  The only thing red is Darnold's hair.  And, while the season has burst I'm glad his Appendix didn't.

But that's the way to describe the meeting if you want to get articles clicked.