TNJet Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 No they should build the defense around the D line and middle linebackers. That is our strong point. Not 1 fckin safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It’s kinda funny All Jamal Adams threads on here literally have the same recycled hate in every thread from the same people . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: All Jamal Adams threads on here literally have the same recycled hate in every thread from the same people . Trade him so we can be done with him and his threads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Ummmmmm based on recent play the answer is yes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Defenses aren't built around a single player. It's quite simple. Accumulate as much talent as possible, and lock up difference makers during their prime years. Adams is a special player that changes games. If you don't see it, then I'm not really sure what you are watching. The question isn't whether you build the defense around Adams. The question is whether Adams can play a key role in bringing a championship to this team. In my opinion, Adams has proven that the answer is a resounding yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Considering many fans thought paying Revis big money(pre ACL surgery) was crazy this would be insane. Remember CB’s weren’t worth that money so a SS is?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 9:20 PM, Beerfish said: How do you build a defense around a safety? Someone tell me. They have already built it around him, he blitzes half the plays or more. When you are always blitzing a safety you give things up, often big plays On 11/19/2019 at 9:57 PM, Pac said: What exactly is it going to take for you to abandon your failed crusade? Jamal is obviously a cornerstone of the franchise and someone JD would like to see extended. TEAM PASS RK DEF NYJ 12.90% 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 10:21 PM, jetstream23 said: If the Jets can get significant assets for Adams, say a mid-1st round pick and a 2nd or high 3rd, I'd consider it. But we need to beware....those picks can turn into Darron Lee or a very average Leo Williams. Right now we have one of the Top 3 Safeties in the NFL and trading him for what's behind Door #3 is risky. Personally, I'm not a fan of trading the best Draft pick we've made since Darrelle Revis. 1. Joe Douglas is not Mike Maccagnan. 2. Is Adams the most impactful draft pick since Revis? Decidedly not, even if you're only looking at defensive picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 12:54 AM, Paradis said: Are the jets realistically going to net a pick that that is valuable and likely a stalwart? I dunno.... you're giving a quality defender who energizes the team... "Energizes" them to 12 wins in the last 2.5 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Apache 51 said: Do we have a proven replacement? Keep him here. Rontez Miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Scoop24 said: It’s kinda funny All Jamal Adams threads on here literally have the same recycled hate in every thread from the same people . Here's a thought: Fanboys should stop creating threads about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1. Joe Douglas is not Mike Maccagnan. That is 2019 think. 2015 think was that Maccagnan is not John Idzik. 39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 2. Is Adams the most impactful draft pick since Revis? Decidedly not, even if you're only looking at defensive picks. This is very debatable. Remember, Revis' impact was erasing a #1 WR....in some cases that meant guys like Calvin Johnson or Reggie Wayne not even getting targeted often because QBs stayed away from his side of the field. There are guys here (who I won't name) that would wave the "No stats BS flag" on whether a ball not being thrown towards him is an impact. I could argue that 6 sacks in 10 games, 2 TDs, numerous key stops including 4th downs vs. the Giants, 2-point conversion attempt vs. the Cowboys were extraordinarily impactful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: That is 2019 think. 2015 think was that Maccagnan is not John Idzik. No, that is the ONLY way to think. You have to build through the draft to be successful. The fear of trading a "known" for an "unknown" should not enter any GM's consciousness. You have to build your team on "unknowns". Paying Jamal Adams $15M a year when we've won 12 games the last 2.5 seasons would be unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 We definitely needed another Jamal Adams thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Checkout the Pro-Bowl vote total so far. More 2020 Pro Bowl Voting Leaders http://bit.ly/2D3i1aA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Checkout the Pro-Bowl vote total so far. More 2020 Pro Bowl Voting Leaders http://bit.ly/2D3i1aA oh wow this changes everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: No, that is the ONLY way to think. You have to build through the draft to be successful. The fear of trading a "known" for an "unknown" should not enter any GM's consciousness. You have to build your team on "unknowns". Paying Jamal Adams $15M a year when we've won 12 games the last 2.5 seasons would be unacceptable. We'll just have to disagree on this. I respect your opinion. Also, I'm holding an envelope....it's kinda thick. Send me $500 and I'll mail it to you. Who knows...there could be $600 in that envelope!! It could also be holding a dirty sock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: We'll just have to disagree on this. I respect your opinion. Also, I'm holding an envelope....it's kinda thick. Send me $500 and I'll mail it to you. Who knows...there could be $600 in that envelope!! It could also be holding a dirty sock. Does the envelope hold a competent Offensive Lineman? Because I'll take that over Jamal Adams any day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Does the envelope hold a competent Offensive Lineman? Because I'll take that over Jamal Adams any day of the week. You get the 9th overall pick for Jamal and a player like OT Ereck Flowers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: You get the 9th overall pick for Jamal and a player like OT Ereck Flowers. Oh right, because all top 10 pick OL's bust, right? Why are you assuming any draft pick we make will suck? If our GM sucks at drafting, we're screwed regardless. Might as well assume he will do something positive with our picks, because there's no other way to build a successful franchise. We've sucked WITH Jamal Adams too. Why not go a different direction? Why so scared to lose him? Oh, and Quenton Nelson says Hi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Oh right, because all top 10 pick OL's bust, right? Why are you assuming any draft pick we make will suck? If our GM sucks at drafting, we're screwed regardless. Might as well assume he will do something positive with our picks, because there's no other way to build a successful franchise. We've sucked WITH Jamal Adams too. Why not go a different direction? Why so scared to lose him? Oh, and Quenton Nelson says Hi. Remove Jamal Adams this year and insert Quenton Nelson since Week 1.....what's the Jets record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Remove Jamal Adams this year and insert Quenton Nelson since Week 1.....what's the Jets record? Considering the Colts are 6-4 with Jacoby Brissett at QB, and their OL has played a major role in that with Nelson at the fulcrum, I'd put us at 5-5. The run game would look great right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The war on this board over whether to trade Adams in the off-season or not is going to be epic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: The war on this board over whether to trade Adams in the off-season or not is going to be epic. A 1 and a 3 would do it for me. Nothing short of that though. Don't know what we can get any ideas? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: The war on this board over whether to trade Adams in the off-season or not is going to be epic. Penningtologists say what? Anti-Jamal-Militia forming where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: A 1 and a 3 would do it for me. Nothing short of that though. Don't know what we can get any ideas? Lol. I wouldn't take anything less than that either. If the Jets can't move him in the run up to the Draft in April then I'd say hold until the 2020 Trade Deadline. The fact of the matter is that you typically get more for a player in-season and not in the offseason. Teams in a "win now" mode who need a do-everything defender like Adams to push them from being a 10 win team to a 12 win team will part with picks 5 months before a Draft. Come March/April every GM wants more picks, not fewer IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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