Skeptable Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: It's a stupid ******* test. I'd be pissed if they came in to draw blood from me every week for PR reasons. Has anyone actually failed an HGH test? What baseline are they going off of? Athletes are going to have high levels so what even constitutes a failure? I agree with Bell. NFL should F off with this pointless test. Big Papi in 2009(i think) ... But in baseball it's not a normal drug test but a trial of a new test. So big Papi never 'failed' a real drug test. Yet was caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: Has anyone actually failed an HGH test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 This is the NFL owners' retaliation for Bell taking a stand against the franchise tag, and especially how it takes advantage of the running back position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: He's right. Jon Jones had a metabolite from a synthetic drug cause he's an idiot. Nobody is going to fail an HGH test cause there's no actual baseline for failure. It's just a PR move from the NFL so they can pretend they're on top of it. If they want to do something useful they should take Al Riveron out back and beat the sh*t out of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, DJF71 said: He needs to take PED's No. the OL does. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Warfish said: And he wonders why they're testing him so often? Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% for Pot being removed from the banned list, (and legalized/decriminalized Federally). And I agree with him, 5 in 10 weeks is excessive. But this is what collective bargaining gets the Players, and they don't individually get to decide they're just not doing it when they like. Same way the Owners can't just decide to "not do" things that the CBA requires. If I were Bell, given the year he's produced, I'd keep quiet, keep my head down, and pray the Jets trade me come the offseason. He's been a very poor fit here under Coach Gase. Terible fit for Gase - only because Gase is an idiot and wont fit his scheme to take advantage of the best player on the team. Absolutely nuts. Gase should be tested every day. he crazy ass eyes - Press conf - play calling etc... But i agree with you make CBA is terrible - I do think they are directly responsible for increase in injuries as well. GOd danm them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Lol ... he’ll take the test next time he’s told to ... he’s just sayin ... WTF man !?!?!?!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 TB12 will never be tested ... can’t touch that golden goose*Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: They should test Jets fans. We're clearly all on something if we continue to stick around rooting for this team. Test me all you want, weed is legal up here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 "At the end of the day, if we have to cross that bridge when we get there, we'll cross that bridge when we get there," Bell said. "I'm saying right now, the way I feel today, when that tweet went out, that's how I feel. Translation: Nothing to see here. I'm just running my mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, flgreen said: Both are banned stubstances. When they tst you for weed, they test yu for all banned stubstances. Just like in the real world They can test for weed by having the player pee in a cup. PED test requires blood. Bell has a history of weed and DUI but never PED's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: They should test Jets fans. We're clearly all on something if we continue to stick around rooting for this team. Not sure the methodology for testing pathetic has been perfected yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 They're probably testing all Jets players that haven't been IR'd. You have to admit, it does seem suspicious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, SayNoToDMC said: Nobody is going to fail an HGH test cause there's no actual baseline for failure. where do you get this idea from, I wonder. (lab scientist here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Not sure the methodology for testing pathetic has been perfected yet. mental illness methodology is still imperfect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It’s a tweet lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 They should be testing guys like McCaffery who are clearly using. Just watch bell play. You know hes not taking anything. He can barely move out there.And EdelroidSent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, PCP63 said: Lol if you think Brady is on HGH. Also lol if you think it'd make even a fraction of a difference outside of injuries healing (which should be permitted, IMO). I'm all for hating Brady, but let's at least be realistic. In what world do you think anyone actually believes that Brady hasn't taken HGH his entire career? And how do you figure injuries don't affect performance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Warfish said: I wonder why repeated violations of the substance abuse policy resulting in suspensions might lead to a higher frequency of testing for substance abuses.... Does Bell have any actual knowledge of the differences between testing "for HGH" and plain old drug testing? Seems the process "needle, draw blood" is the same. /shrug Because marijuana isn't reliably tested in blood tests. It lasts in the blood for 12 - 24 hours and even if you're high as a kite, the tests still aren't accurate. Pot tests are urine samples, or hair on some occasions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, flgreen said: Both are banned stubstances. When they tst you for weed, they test yu for all banned stubstances. Just like in the real world That's absolutely incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Brady’s “secret” ingredient in his TB12 diet is HGH, yet he’s allowed to cheat his way to being considered the GOAT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: where do you get this idea from, I wonder. (lab scientist here) I'm not a scientist. Name one player that's failed in the 4-5 years of testing. I'd bet half are taking HGH. If you got some info I'm wrong on I'll listen to it. I'm basing my position on them drawing blood for no reason, and 5 times being a bit ludicrous. I accept you know better than me if you do this for a living Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, JetPotato said: Also, what does Bell's history with marijuana have to do with HGH testing? Thank you. If it was illicit drugs you can point to his former bust and blame him for making himself a target, regardless of your opinion on smoking weed, I happen to think testing for weed is dumb but whatever The fact that it’s PEDs...which he’s never tested positive for is beyond excessive and he’s being singled out for no reason whatsoever....I’m with Lev on this one....F the NFL and their BS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, JetPotato said: Because marijuana isn't reliably tested in blood tests. It lasts in the blood for 12 - 24 hours and even if you're high as a kite, the tests still aren't accurate. Pot tests are urine samples, or hair on some occasions. Apparently it's ME who knows nothing about drug testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Tweet tweet baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 hours ago, SayNoToDMC said: I'm not a scientist. Name one player that's failed in the 4-5 years of testing. I'd bet half are taking HGH. .............. I accept you know better than me if you do this for a living you mentioned something specific about there being no baseline for HGH or something. that is patently false. do have any idea how extensive the banned substances list is? ( I know you don't or why else would you make a silly assumption that the ONLY analyte is HGH- I just know its extensive and just looked it up. It's 7 pages long.) https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/Active Players/wellness/2019 Banned Substances List.pdf People often talk about ish they know nothing about. This is a perfect example. The current agreement says every single player at least once and any one player up to 6 times. Thats the contract. "Dirty needles" is the comment of an ignorant person. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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