jetsons Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Maxx Crosby has been even Greater so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post southparkcpa Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 But we have Quinnen Williams.... Same Ole Jets fans. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 This was Crosby’s combine. Maccagnan drafted Jachai Polite and Chuma Edoga instead. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sec101row23 Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 Mayock killed it in his first draft with the Raiders. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Mayock killed it in his first draft with the Raiders. I always wondered why none of these draft experts worked for an nfl team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: I always wondered why none of these draft experts worked for an nfl team Actually a lot have. There are guys who have worked for teams in the past as scouts and in the player personnel departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Mayock killed it in his first draft with the Raiders. Find guys who enjoy playing football. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Find guys who enjoy playing football. And have the physical traits and measurables to do so at a high level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: This was Crosby’s combine. Maccagnan drafted Jachai Polite and Chuma Edoga instead. We still need the sad emoji. ? 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 There was a couple of posters that were extremely high on Crosby. I can’t remember who they were but obviously they knew something we didn’t. I don’t think I’ve ever watched eastern Michigan play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: This was Crosby’s combine. Maccagnan drafted Jachai Polite and Chuma Edoga instead. Chuma was the #1 ranked pass protector by PFF. Let’s ignore the fact that 2/3 of Mayock first round picks have been invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Y3k said: Chuma was the #1 ranked pass protector by PFF. Let’s ignore the fact that 2/3 of Mayock first round picks have been invisible. Whew I feel so much better about Edoga now and I’ll look at his embarrassing struggles in a different light moving forward 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Whew I feel so much better about Edoga now and I’ll look at his embarrassing struggles in a different light moving forward He should have sat out this season. Never looked physically ready for the NFL and always felt he was a long term project - He was extremely raw. Too early to write him off - Not an easy position to adapt to at the best of times and our line is certainly not having the best of times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Mac is a legendarily bad drafter even his good picks like Herndon he’s MIA this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I was pretty high on this guy as well as Chase Winovich. We had a choice between those two and Polite, so of course we picked Polite.. Now they're both on track for 10+ sacks this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Very worried about this guy on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: This was Crosby’s combine. Maccagnan drafted Jachai Polite and Chuma Edoga instead. Define wingspan? I don't get how he can be in the upper percentile on wingspan but lower in arm length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Define wingspan? I don't get how he can be in the upper percentile on wingspan but lower in arm length? Wide torso 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Y3k said: Chuma was the #1 ranked pass protector by PFF. Let’s ignore the fact that 2/3 of Mayock first round picks have been invisible. Yea first pick Strong safety J Abram Hurt his shoulder In week one , and was placed on Ir for the season. ( only reason he’s been invisible , as he was a big loss for their defense). Second M Crosby 6.5 sacks ( Salt) and Ferrell 3.5 sacks ( Pepper ) have given the Raiders excellent production from their two rookie De’s. C Ferrell was a perfect fit for what Guenther was looking for his defense. He might never be double digit sack artist , as they were looking for all round De.( can play both the run, and give some pass rush) . Not a guy who was just a pass rushing specialist. Two things have hampered C Ferrell development . The Raiders to get as many of their best pass rushers on the field together, they have asked Ferrell to play Dt .( on the passing downs). Also during the trip to England Ferrell caught some kind of bug and lost about twenty pounds, and his strength. Ferrell play has really improved big time the last couple weeks as he’s playing De exclusively, and he finally back to his normal weight.( strength has returned) . This is the thing they not only hit on the draft , but they were excellent in the undrafted Fa market too. Let’s See Fb Alec Ingold might be the best fullback in the NFL. Found their backup Center, and eventually replacement for R Hudson - Andre James. Found their punter A.J. Cole . Found a Wr for their future K Doss. Cb K Nixon is a nice looking cb whose been getting more playing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Define wingspan? I don't get how he can be in the upper percentile on wingspan but lower in arm length? Wingspan is going to include the width of the cheat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Mayock killed it in his first draft with the Raiders. I remember when everyone was killing him after the draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: We still need the sad emoji. ? make it so @Maxman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Mayock killed it in his first draft with the Raiders. Weren't the Jets supposedly talking to Jeremiah ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Wingspan is going to include the width of the cheat as well. This explains why the Patriots put a heavy emphasis on wingspan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 "Quit scratching that sore... you'll just make it worse." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Whew I feel so much better about Edoga now and I’ll look at his embarrassing struggles in a different light moving forward Your point was that Mac ignores the “data” and passed on Crosby. I’m telling you that he actually went with data on the OL pick at that spot. So your point is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: He should have sat out this season. Never looked physically ready for the NFL and always felt he was a long term project - He was extremely raw. Too early to write him off - Not an easy position to adapt to at the best of times and our line is certainly not having the best of times. This is the best thing we can hope for. Not that he doesn't look like dogcrap this year also, but for 2-3 years Winters was at least average/serviceable (i.e. if he was our biggest problem it'd likely have meant our line was pretty solid overall). But hey, remember BW's rookie year? Train wreck. His second year wasn't demonstrably better, if it was any better at all, before he got yanked for friggin' Aboushi. But by year 3 when he filled in for Colon, while he still was hardly awesome, Winters was nowhere near the liability he was in his first 2 seasons, just like Edoga is so far. Problem is we know that guys who start out this poorly more often go on to become career stiffs or at best those who only have real value as backups (like somewhat recent - sorry you have to go pre-Macc - day 2 picks like Aboushi, Ducasse, etc.). Well we can hope. Maybe this offseason he'll have a clearer idea of what he has to work on at this level and/or in this scheme; training he can't fully focus on when his weekly focus are his upcoming assignments. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y3k Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: Yea first pick Strong safety J Abram Hurt his shoulder In week one , and was placed on Ir for the season. ( only reason he’s been invisible , as he was a big loss for their defense). Second M Crosby 6.5 sacks ( Salt) and Ferrell 3.5 sacks ( Pepper ) have given the Raiders excellent production from their two rookie De’s. C Ferrell was a perfect fit for what Guenther was looking for his defense. He might never be double digit sack artist , as they were looking for all round De.( can play both the run, and give some pass rush) . Not a guy who was just a pass rushing specialist. Two things have hampered C Ferrell development . The Raiders to get as many of their best pass rushers on the field together, they have asked Ferrell to play Dt .( on the passing downs). Also during the trip to England Ferrell caught some kind of bug and lost about twenty pounds, and his strength. Ferrell play has really improved big time the last couple weeks as he’s playing De exclusively, and he finally back to his normal weight.( strength has returned) . This is the thing they not only hit on the draft , but they were excellent in the undrafted Fa market too. Let’s See Fb Alec Ingold might be the best fullback in the NFL. Found their backup Center, and eventually replacement for R Hudson - Andre James. Found their punter A.J. Cole . Found a Wr for their future K Doss. Cb K Nixon is a nice looking cb whose been getting more playing time. So your “hard hitting” safety that also embarrassed himself on hard Knox can’t take a hit. Until he gets on the field he’s a bust. Ferrell has been totally invisible all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 There's a 3 sack, FF, TD day coming this Sunday against the Giants so that should start to even things out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Is this a raiders forum ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Scoop24 said: Is this a raiders forum ? We're playing the Raiders this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: We're playing the Raiders this week. So what the of comparison maxx and Khalil got to do with that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Scoop24 said: So what the of comparison maxx and Khalil got to do with that ? Why does it bother you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why does it bother you? I’m never bothered . Just found it interesting considering this is jets board . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: I’m never bothered . Just found it interesting considering this is jets board . It shows that a smart team turned a high value asset into a variety of other assets and made a great mid round pick for an edge rusher who is producing. All the things the Jets have epically failed at over the last decade. It is relevant to look at teams who are doing it right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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